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And my Ram is always at 38%. My brother has the identical computer and all
same components. He has 48 processes and ram at 26%. What do i do from here.
 
From: "payne" <[email protected]>

| And my Ram is always at 38%. My brother has the identical computer and all
| same components. He has 48 processes and ram at 26%. What do i do from here.

Reduce the number of programs you load at startup via MSCONFIG.EXE .
 
I forgot to mention that our startup screens in msconfig are the same. we
have to same amount of check marks.
 
payne said:
And my Ram is always at 38%. My brother has the identical computer
and all
same components. He has 48 processes and ram at 26%. What do i do
from here.


So what is broke?
 
=?Utf-8?B?cGF5bmU=?= added these comments in the current
discussion du jour ...
And my Ram is always at 38%. My brother has the identical
computer and all same components. He has 48 processes and ram
at 26%. What do i do from here.
I have only a modest number of apps on my task bar and I have 63
processes running. But, don't forget that many are either system
processes or hidden processes to support your open apps.

I'm not sure of what you mean by 38% or 26% RAM nor what your and
your brother's total RAM is, but of my 4 gig, one is reserved by
Win XP and cannot be addressed. Task Manager shows right now that
of about 3 gig installed, only about 2.1 gig or so is available,
so that would be around 26% for me as well.

But, if I am in the middle of processing digital camera images,
both a memory and CPU intensive task, available memory goes way
down, CPU goes way up, and I/O generally goes way up. Ditto if I
spawn off a number of background tasks. So, before anyone can
answer your question intelligently, please tell us more about the
2 PC and what is running during your calculations. What you see
may be entirely normal for you and your brother but just
different.
 
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du jour ...
| And my Ram is always at 38%. My brother has the identical
| computer and all same components. He has 48 processes and
| ram at 26%. What do i do from here.

Reduce the number of programs you load at startup via
MSCONFIG.EXE .
Pretty dangerous advice if the OP is not experienced as Windows
could be cripped and/or other apps, malware protection, other
things unrelated to what is actually being used to do useful work.
Better perhaps to investigate what the processes are and determine
what is "normal" for a given PC config and a given set of running
apps.
 
=?Utf-8?B?cGF5bmU=?= added these comments in the current
discussion du jour ...
i dont know how to identify what to keep and what not too.
Again, please look to see what is running on your PC and your
brother's PC. Be VERY careful about shutting down processes if
you're not 100% sure you don't need them. e.g., don't shut down
system processes. In my case, many of my apps, e.g., Roxio Easy
Media Creator 8 and my Maxtor external HD have a number of
utilities that run as background tasks rather than apps that show
up in the Systray. Since I do not use these utilities and can
easily recognize them in Task Manager's list, I did go to
msconfig and turn them off at start-up.

Perhaps if you're still unsure, you may want to copy the list of
processes on both PCs to the Clipboard and post them here for
people to comment on.

Good luck! BTW, are you seeing some sort of problem, e.g., slow
operation or instability on your PC and have you scanned for
malware?
 
=?Utf-8?B?cGF5bmU=?= added these comments in the current
discussion du jour ...
I forgot to mention that our startup screens in msconfig are
the same. we have to same amount of check marks.

I didn't see this before I replied twice earlier. Since both PCs
appear to start the same, is the list of running apps and what
you're both doing also pretty much identical? Looking at the full
list of running processes might give you some clues. Please see
my other 2 replies to you for some suggestions.
 
pardon my charging in on your thread; I am concerned about slow
performance, and recently checked, ah, whatever you call it,
Shift|Control|Delete, and was disturbed that over 30 "processes" were
running. I know how to limit startup apps, and actually have 1, soon to
become 0. has anyone written a paper or commentary which explains what
"bfltzpk.exe" is and what it does? (named from the Al Capp character of
fame)

I would appreciate any information on this topic

Regards,

P D Sterling
New York, Texas & Texas, New York
 
From: "P D Sterling" <[email protected]>

| pardon my charging in on your thread; I am concerned about slow
| performance, and recently checked, ah, whatever you call it,
Shift|> Control|Delete, and was disturbed that over 30 "processes" were
| running. I know how to limit startup apps, and actually have 1, soon to
| become 0. has anyone written a paper or commentary which explains what
| "bfltzpk.exe" is and what it does? (named from the Al Capp character of
| fame)
|
| I would appreciate any information on this topic
|
| Regards,
|
| P D Sterling
| New York, Texas & Texas, New York
|

In the future, please create your own thread and not hijack anothers thread.

bfltzpk.exe has a nigh probability of being malware !


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P D Sterling added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ...
pardon my charging in on your thread; I am concerned about
slow performance, and recently checked, ah, whatever you call
it, Shift|Control|Delete, and was disturbed that over 30
"processes" were running. I know how to limit startup apps,
and actually have 1, soon to become 0. has anyone written a
paper or commentary which explains what "bfltzpk.exe" is and
what it does? (named from the Al Capp character of fame)

I would appreciate any information on this topic

Regards,

P D Sterling
New York, Texas & Texas, New York
No need to apologiz, P.D. Yours is an on-topic question.

Shift|Ctrl|Del is supposed to bring up Task Manager or you can
right click on the Task Bar. To see the running processes, click
on the Processes tab.

Now to your question, as I understand it: as I mentioned, I have
around 60 processes running at any given time. Right now, the
apps on my Task Bar include Explorer, IE6, OE6, PSP 9 Jasc Media
Center, Notepad, and XP Search. If I closed some of these, the
number of running processes would drop, but not by much more than
the number of apps closed. OTOH, depending on what I am doing in
these apps or if I bring up other apps that require supporting
background processes, the number running may go up dramatically.

You won't necessarily see a performance increase if you stop some
of the processes from Task Manager or you prevent them from even
loaded at startup by using Start>Run>msconfig. But, be VERY
careful of stopping processes at startup and/or those already
running unless you are absolutely sure you don't need them and
neither does Windows itself or any of your apps. e.g., don't
delete ANY process marked "system" unless you really know what it
does, it can wound Windows or knock it over requiring a restart.

Now, since your concern is performance, are you having a problem
with a very slow boot-up or very slow performance once Windows is
up and running or both? How many apps do you have in your Start
folder? Here, reducing the number WILL improve startup times
because less must be loaded. I mentioned in a previous post that
I killed a number of processes for utility programs some of my
apps use that I KNEW were unneeded.

As to "bfltzpk.exe" (wasn't this the guy with a black cloud over
his head all the time" or any process you can't identify, you
could search the MS KB or Google for it. Some are obvious as to
their intent and operation just by there name but many are not.

My startup times are quite long but that's because I have many
apps in my start folder.

But, if your problem is drastically reduced performance when
running, has it always been slow or did it suddenly get slow
recently, e.g., after an update to Windows or some of your apps?
Have you done a comprehensive malware scan with as many strong
utilities as possible starting with the monthly Windows Malicious
Software Removal Tool and a full system-wide scan using your
favorite anti-virus utility? Have you tried both Ad-Aware and Spy
Bot Search & Destroy to look for unused or dangerous cookies and
possible spyware? There are other utilities I use personally but
I am not clear exactly what you're having trouble with.

If you only have some 30 running processes, you're running a
pretty lean system and if "bfltzpk.exe" is the only unknown app,
it should be easy to kill it and see if it improves things.
However, if you somehow got infected with some kind of malware,
and this app is really that, it may prevent you from stopping its
process and may also prevent you from running malware scans.
Those are two things all the dangerous malware does to try to
prevent people from un-infecting their PCs.

If you are infected with malware and cannot fix it any other way,
try booting into safe mode and try getting rid of it. If you
understand the dangers of messing with the Registry, you can also
Google for freeware Registry editors that are far better than
regedit.exe or buy a comprehensive utility such as JV16 Power
Tools, and search for all instances of app(s) or processes you
believe are causing you trouble.

NOW FOR THE BIG ONE: BEFORE YOU DO /ANYTHING/, BE SURE TO SET A
SYSTEM RESTORE POINT TO ENABLE YOU TO ROLL BACK YOUR SYSTEM
SHOULD YOUR CHANGES KILL WINDOWS.

Good luck and please clarify if I misunderstood your question.
 
payne said:
i dont know how to identify what to keep and what not too.


If you run msconfig to take applications out of startup...
the only thing you probably need there is your virus checker and firewall.

If it turns out that you took out something else that was needed.
you can simply re-run msconfig and put it back
 
I will have time tonight to check it over. then i will come back with more
information. thanks so much for the help already.
 
Well, mine has 70 processes. However, the System Idle process is taking up
98%.

I for one don't see how the number of processes, by itself, that might have
some task to perform sometime in the future has much to do with performance.
Except of course if you have deleted a process which needs to run.

As for your ram percentage, it isn't real clear to me what 38% means. Does
that indicate that 62% of the memory is free (not assigned to any process)?
Jim
 
i have a google widget that tells me the CPU speed and ram %. After reading
your post i tend to wonder if i am taking this to far. Because there is no
lagging effects the machine works great and the CPU acts accordingly. I am
only concerned because i have been told that you only want about 40 processes
running. These are brand new dell computers and we only have had them for
about 3 months. so i just assumed that we would have the exact same stuff
going on. since i take care of maintenance on both machines.
 
From: "payne" <[email protected]>

| i have a google widget that tells me the CPU speed and ram %. After reading
| your post i tend to wonder if i am taking this to far. Because there is no
| lagging effects the machine works great and the CPU acts accordingly. I am
| only concerned because i have been told that you only want about 40 processes
| running. These are brand new dell computers and we only have had them for
| about 3 months. so i just assumed that we would have the exact same stuff
| going on. since i take care of maintenance on both machines.
|

What OS are you using ?
 
payne said:
And my Ram is always at 38%. My brother has the identical computer and all
same components. He has 48 processes and ram at 26%. What do i do from here.


Don't know. It's help if you were to tell us what you hope to accomplish.


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i have a google widget that tells me the CPU speed and ram %. After reading
your post i tend to wonder if i am taking this to far. Because there is no
lagging effects the machine works great and the CPU acts accordingly. I am
only concerned because i have been told that you only want about 40 processes
running.


You have been told wrong. Many people have many more than that and
experience no problems at all. The number is not important, but
*which* are running may be.

When you say "ram %," are you talking about how much is used? Wanting
to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a counterproductive
desire. Windows is designed to use all, or nearly all, of your memory,
all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is wasted memory.
You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it wasted.

Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that
part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
this way Windows keeps all or most of your memory working for you all
the time.

When you say "the machine works great," be happy with that, and don't
go looking for trouble. If you start fooling around stopping processes
or trying to tweak memory usage, you are far more like to create a
problem than to solve one. You haven't reported anything that sounds
like a problem.
 
i want to be able to stop unimportant processes from running. and i want to
free up RAM. i was told that 60 is way to many processes from dell support.
So I am trying to learn how to do this so i can make our computer last for a
long time and not have to pay someone in a year because it is slowing down.
prevenetive maintence measures.
 
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