I finally published!

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Any comments or critiques are very welcome. I know theres alot wrong in my
code, (sigh) but maybe someday I will learn css. Lots of and other things
I am not sure how to fix right now. And it's not fancy, we didn't want
fancy. Sorry you have to go back to the gallery to go to new pages, buttons
and I do not get along:)

http://www.rlblair.com/

Thanks for all your help, I want you to know how much your replies are
appreciated.

Susie
 
Susie said:
Any comments or critiques are very welcome. I know theres alot wrong
in my code, (sigh) but maybe someday I will learn css. Lots of and
other things I am not sure how to fix right now. And it's not fancy,
we didn't want fancy. Sorry you have to go back to the gallery to go
to new pages, buttons and I do not get along:)

http://www.rlblair.com/

Thanks for all your help, I want you to know how much your replies
are appreciated.
Click to expand...

I haven't taken part on this discussion but I thought I might throw in a
comment or two. (I am not a professional, just a casual observer.)

BTW, it looks good.

Comment 1:
When I went to the Gallery (gallery.htm), I was at a loss to know what to do
next.

How about putting a sentence above all the photos:
"Click on any photo to see more details" (or similar)

This is the code for the first photo
<td width="110">
<a href="rl_blair.htm">
<img border="0" src="images/web_images/thumbs/rl-hat-tn.jpg" width="100"
height="125"></a><p></td>

Why not add a title to the <img> tag?
e.g. <img border="0" src="images/web_images/thumbs/rl-hat-tn.jpg"
width="100" height="125" title="Click me to see more details">

This way the visitor gets another prompt as to what to do.

Comment 2.
I find the navigation quite good, except that it may be more useful to say
"Back to View Gallery" rather than "View Gallery".

I know I may be odd, but when I saw "View Gallery" I thought it would take
me to a new page, not to the page I had just left. OK I had got to the
Gallery page by clicking on "View the Gallery" (different wording !) , but I
didn't remember that. And you do say "Back to Home", so this would be
consistent.

Comment 3.
You say
Sorry you have to go back to the gallery to go to new pages
Click to expand...

What else could you do?
Actually, answering my own question, I suppose you could have a heading with
butons to click to go to each page, but you want it simple so I see nothing
wrong with the way it is. (Experts can now disagree).

I hope you don't think I am being picky. It is meant as useful.
 
With regards to links on the pages (e.g. back to home page), why not put
simple text links on each page? (It is not necessary to specifically have
buttons).
 
Hi,

I took it upon myself to look at your website and suggest you add the
following code to each thumbnail that you link to a larger version:

<a title="Click for Larger Image" href="disney_sculpture.htm">
<img border="0"
src="images/web_images/thumbs/rlblair-disney-brer-tn.jpg" width="102"
height="102"></a><p></td>

When guest hovers over the thumbnail, it will read "Click for Larger
Image".

Regards,

Grant Ames
New York
 
You left out the alt tag...
That will never validate...
Just a thought.

--
John Malone
==============
"ggames@ gmail.com" <nospam> wrote in message
| Hi,
|
| I took it upon myself to look at your website and suggest you add the
| following code to each thumbnail that you link to a larger version:
|
| <a title="Click for Larger Image" href="disney_sculpture.htm">
| <img border="0"
| src="images/web_images/thumbs/rlblair-disney-brer-tn.jpg" width="102"
| height="102"></a><p></td>
|
| When guest hovers over the thumbnail, it will read "Click for Larger
| Image".
|
| Regards,
|
| Grant Ames
| New York
|
| On Mon, 1 May 2006 00:09:01 -0700, Susie
|
| >Any comments or critiques are very welcome. I know theres alot wrong in
my
| >code, (sigh) but maybe someday I will learn css. Lots of and other
things
| >I am not sure how to fix right now. And it's not fancy, we didn't want
| >fancy. Sorry you have to go back to the gallery to go to new pages,
buttons
| >and I do not get along:)
| >
| >http://www.rlblair.com/
| >
| >Thanks for all your help, I want you to know how much your replies are
| >appreciated.
| >
| >Susie
 
My bad!
Serves me right for rushing.

Thanks for the heads up.

Regards,

Grant Ames
New York
 
Corrected code to allow validation:

<a title="Click for Larger Image" href="disney_sculpture.htm">
<img border="0"
src="images/web_images/thumbs/rlblair-disney-brer-tn.jpg" width="102"
height="102" alt="Click for Larger Image"></a><p></td>

Thanks again, John.

Will think twice before pulling the trigger. :-)

Grant Ames
New York
 
It was just that I know she worked hard to get the page to validate. 8)

--
John Malone
==============
"ggames@ gmail.com" <nospam> wrote in message
|
| Corrected code to allow validation:
|
| <a title="Click for Larger Image" href="disney_sculpture.htm">
| <img border="0"
| src="images/web_images/thumbs/rlblair-disney-brer-tn.jpg" width="102"
| height="102" alt="Click for Larger Image"></a><p></td>
|
| Thanks again, John.
|
| Will think twice before pulling the trigger. :-)
|
| Grant Ames
| New York
|
|
| On Mon, 1 May 2006 10:21:18 -0500, "John Malone"
|
| >You left out the alt tag...
| >That will never validate...
| >Just a thought.
 
Thanjks for the replies, I am going to put this right before the pictures in
the Gallery page bigger than the rest of the text, and in black so it can't
be missed - Please click on any photo to view the category.

I will change the simple text button to say Back to Gallery, makes more
sense, Thanks Trevor!

Ok, I tried to put this code in my code page next to the picture, (not quite
sure where to put it), but I couldnt get it to work. When guest hovers over
the thumbnail, it will read "Click for Larger
Image".

<a title="Click for Larger Image" href="disney_sculpture.htm">
<img border="0"
src="images/web_images/thumbs/rlblair-disney-brer-tn.jpg" width="102"
height="102" alt="Click for Larger Image"></a><p></td>

Susie
 
Here is an extract of your code with the suggested new code added.
I tried to put as much in for you to locate it.
I suggest you use the split feature and click on the "Disney" graphic;
the one below the fellow in the hat.
Clicking on the graphic will highlight the code for you.
However, your choice of text " Please click on any photo to view the
category" is a great idea and makes the coding of each pic redundant.

Your choice.

Regards,

Grant Ames
New York


**********************code extract*************
past 35 years wood carving has been his livelihood.</span></font></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="110" align="left" valign="top">
<p>
<a title="Click for Larger Image"
href="disney_sculpture.htm">
<img border="0"
src="images/web_images/thumbs/rlblair-disney-brer-tn.jpg" width="102"
height="102" alt="Click for Larger Image"></a><p></td>
<td align="left" width="690" valign="top">
<p>
<font face="Walt Disney Script v4.1"
size="4">Disney</font>
</font><font size="1">® </font><font
size="2"><b>Sculpture - </b>&nbsp;R.L. Blair's wood carvings are
located throughout Disneyland</font><font size="1">®</font><font
size="2">,
Walt Disney World</font><font size="1">®</font><font
size="2">,
Tokyo Disney</font><font size="1">®</font><font
size="2">,
Disneyland</font><font size="1">®</font><font
size="2">
Paris, (or EuroDisney</font><font
size="1">®</font><font size="2">)
&amp; most recently Hong Kong Disneyland</font><font
size="1">®</font><font size="2">.</font></td>
</tr>
<tr>
***************************************************************
 
Thanks so very much Grant! I will try my " Please click on any photo to
view the
category", but I know from doing ebay for years that people dont like to
read, so if needed your code is a great solution in addition.
May I ask, when you looked at my site, did you see at the bottom of the
Diseny pages, Bear pages, Nautical, and a couple other catagories where I
have at the bottom, "Click here to view more Bear sculpture". Did you notice
it, is it obvious? I am thinking maybe I should make it black font, so it
stands out.
Thanks again for your help!
Susie
 
Susie said:
Thanks so very much Grant! I will try my " Please click on any
photo to view the
category", but I know from doing ebay for years that people dont like
to read, so if needed your code is a great solution in addition.
May I ask, when you looked at my site, did you see at the bottom of
the Diseny pages, Bear pages, Nautical, and a couple other catagories
where I have at the bottom, "Click here to view more Bear sculpture".
Did you notice it, is it obvious? I am thinking maybe I should make
it black font, so it stands out.
Thanks again for your help!
Click to expand...

Well, I noticed it. I wouldn't try black - maybe some other colour that
stands out against the green (red or violet?)

I think adding the title to each link
e.g. <a title="Click for Larger Image"> href="disney_sculpture.htm">
is a very good idea

But using a belt and braces approach, adding "Please click on any photo to
view the category" above the photos in some contrasting colour and font
should also help
 
Hi,

Yes, I had no problem with navigating thru the "Click here to view
more Bear sculpture".
That being said, I agree with Trevor that an offsetting color would
probably complement the text.
The problem I'm having is that the site is so damn good "as is" that
adding or changing colors would trash the overall look.
I go back to your statement about " no fancy" (sic) and feel you
achieved that goal.

Here is some code to change the colors of the statement.
Once again, I'm not crazy about it, but it's your choice.
******************************************************
Click</font><a href="bear_sculpture_page_2%20.htm"><font
color="#800000">here</font></a><font color="#00FFFF"> to view more
Bear sculpture
******************************************************
Regards,

Grant Ames
New York
 
Any comments or critiques are very welcome. I know theres alot wrong in my
Click to expand...

Looks wonderful! Lean and fast. Not too much clutter. I really like
it! And looks fine in IE7 to ;-)

Have you thought about implementing forms instead of using a mailto?
Depending on the form, you could avoid spam getting into you inbox.

Apart from that, I can't really suggest too much. I suppose that
eventually you'll start adding drop shadows, etc to give it that nice
little extra touch.

Nice sculptures too!

--
Kulvinder Singh Matharu
Website : www.metalvortex.com
Contact : www.metalvortex.com/form/form.htm

"It ain't Coca Cola, it's rice", Straight to Hell - The Clash
 
Thank you Grant! I went ahead and added this (in a color close to the bear
paw logo color) at the top of the pages that have more than one page- This is
page 1 of 4 in Disney® sculpture, there is a link at the bottom for page 2.
So I think for now I will leave things as is, but, I do like the Here color
being brown!!!

I am not sure if it having that simple look makes it look amaturish (sp?)
but I am so glad you like it:) I can't thank you enough for taking the time
to help me.

Susie
 
Hi Kulvinder,

You said- Looks wonderful! Lean and fast. Not too much clutter. I really like
it! And looks fine in IE7 to ;-)

Thank you so very much for your kind words! I was told by my host that it
aslo works in Firefox, I havent downloaded that browser yet, so I will just
have to take his word for it.

You said- Have you thought about implementing forms instead of using a mailto?
Depending on the form, you could avoid spam getting into you inbox.

I havent figured that out form thing yet, I would love to put one in, and
tried to, but when I did insert form, all I got was a box on my page that
said submit, and another box that said something else, I forget, lol. I will
do a search here on forms.

You said- Apart from that, I can't really suggest too much. I suppose that
eventually you'll start adding drop shadows, etc to give it that nice
little extra touch. Nice sculptures too!

Thank you, I am glad you like them! I am afraid I don't know what drop
shadows are, but they sound pretty, especially when you say that nice little
extra touch! I will have to look into that.

Thanks so much for your help, it is greatly appreciated:)
Susie
 
Susie said:
Thank you Grant! I went ahead and added this (in a color close to
the bear paw logo color) at the top of the pages that have more than
one page- This is page 1 of 4 in Disney® sculpture, there is a link
at the bottom for page 2. So I think for now I will leave things as
is, but, I do like the Here color being brown!!!

I am not sure if it having that simple look makes it look amaturish
(sp?) but I am so glad you like it:) I can't thank you enough for
taking the time to help me.

Susie
Click to expand...

Susie,
You have lots of feedback giving susgestions and saying how good the site is

I agree with the latter - the site is good. So I almost hesitate to add any
more

But I will :-))

1. You were going to change "View Gallery" on lower level pages to "Back to
View Gallery" (or similar wording - I forget)
Did you decide not to?

2. You have text such as
"This is page 1 of 4 in Disney® sculpture, there is a link
at the bottom for page 2."
But you on page 2 you don't have:
"This is page 2 of 4 in Disney® sculpture, there is a link
at the bottom for page 3."

It would seem consistent to do this

3. This hasn't been raised before, and I know you don't want fancy,
But (there's always a but , isn't there !!)
One has to scroll to the bottom of the page to find the "Back to Home" or
"Back to Gallery" (however worded) links.

I think it might be a good idea to repeat these at the top of the page. It
may not be quite as good as having navigation buttons down the side (which
is getting into fancy), but I think it would help a bit

One again - great site!
I am an amatuer and it is good to see how people out there can construct
such good looking sites.
 
Hi Trevor,
You have given me some great sugessions! I think Back to Gallery is
perfect, and should have been that way in the first place, and am glad you
brought it to my attention. I am going to change all of them.

The night I posted that I published my site, the water heater the plumber
just installed decided to flood my office:( Grrrrrrrrr. In the middle of
the night, why do these things happen in the middle of the night? Well, at
least it waited till after I published.
So I just quickly added the "go to" sentances in the interest of naviagtion
(emergency added text, lol, I didnt want anyone to miss going to the next
page, or not know to click on the picture in gallery), now that I have
cleared out the mess and I put my office back together I can move on to the
Back to Home.

My husband says I need days off, since I have been working on this for 2
months straight, I needed to learn the program, scan in and crop pictures,
and pretty up the back grounds, etc. And then the writing, wow, my biggest
challenge! But I have to admitt something, I think I have become addicted to
designing the site, a lot of work, but very satisfying!

The buttons at the top just never made sense to me, or the side, because
when you have are finished looking, you are at the bottom. Yes, I guess if
you scroll back up again to re look, then maybe you have a good point, and I
will take it into consideration.

2. You have text such as
"This is page 1 of 4 in Disney® sculpture, there is a link
at the bottom for page 2."
But you on page 2 you don't have:
"This is page 2 of 4 in Disney® sculpture, there is a link
at the bottom for page 3."

It would seem consistent to do this

Good point ! See, this is why I need people like you:)

Thanks so much Trevor!

Susie
 
Susie said:
The night I posted that I published my site, the water heater the
plumber just installed decided to flood my office:( Grrrrrrrrr. In
the middle of the night, why do these things happen in the middle of
the night? Well, at least it waited till after I published.
Click to expand...

Yeah, you can't beat bad luck :-))
I think I have become addicted to designing the site, a lot of work,
but very satisfying!
Click to expand...

It gets that way, I'm afraid.
The buttons at the top just never made sense to me, or the side,
because when you have are finished looking, you are at the bottom.
Yes, I guess if you scroll back up again to re look, then maybe you
have a good point, and I will take it into consideration.
Click to expand...

What if you decide you didn't want that page *before * you scroll to the
bottom.

There could be a couple of/a few reasons.
1. You clicked by mistake
2. You had a quick look and decided to exit
3. You are only scanning quickly through the site

Not knowing how to exit could annoy the visitor and make them decide not to
continue (or not to come back another time)
But you on page 2 you don't have:
"This is page 2 of 4 in Disney® sculpture, there is a link
at the bottom for page 3."

It would seem consistent to do this

Good point ! See, this is why I need people like you:)
Click to expand...

Thank *you*. It was fun to look at it.
 
Here is the code for a new "contact_us.htm" page.
It is a form instead of a what you have now.

I tested it in IE7; Firefox; Netscape 8.1 and Opera.
All look fine as well as your entire site in those browers.

I "left alligned" the page on purpose, allowing the page to be printer
friendly in case a guest wants to do that.

Test it out. If it meets your needs, you are welcome to it.

To install:
Cut the code from here and paste it into Notepad or whatever.
Save as "contact_us.htm.
Rename your current contact_us.htm, to, contact_us.old.
(This is in case you think the replacement doesn't meet your needs and
want to go back to your original format.)
(You may get a pop up dialog warning you about renaming the file
and/or extension-ignore it and continue)

Cut this saved file and paste it into your RL Blair website files as
contact_us.htm.
Preview in your browser and click thru it. See how you like it.
If I've left anything out, let me know.


Grant Ames
New York
***************************Begin Code***********************
<html>

<head>
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 6.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<title>Email rlblairsculpture@yahoo</title>
<style><!--
body {
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 13px;
color: #FFFFFF;
background-color: #6A8341;
}-->
</style>

<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_swapImg() {//v1.0
var doc=document,args=arguments,elm,n; doc.$imgSwaps=new Array();
for(n=2; n<args.length;
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doc.$imgSwaps[doc.$imgSwaps.length]=elm;
elm.$src=elm.src; elm.src=args[n+1]; } }
}

function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}

function FP_getObjectByID(id,o) {//v1.0
var c,el,els,f,m,n; if(!o)o=document; if(o.getElementById)
el=o.getElementById(id);
else if(o.layers) c=o.layers; else if(o.all) el=o.all[id]; if(el)
return el;
if(o.id==id || o.name==id) return o; if(o.childNodes) c=o.childNodes;
if(c)
for(n=0; n<c.length; n++) { el=FP_getObjectByID(id,c[n]); if(el)
return el; }
f=o.forms; if(f) for(n=0; n<f.length; n++) { els=f[n].elements;
for(m=0; m<els.length; m++){ el=FP_getObjectByID(id,els[n]); if(el)
return el; } }
return null;
}
// -->
</script>

</head>

<body
onload="FP_preloadImgs(/*url*/'images/buttons/button_bh2.gif',/*url*/'images/buttons/button_vg2.gif')">

<p>
</p>
<div align="center">
<img border="0"
src="images/web_images/logos/rlblair-g-logo.gif" width="30"
height="35"><span style="font-weight: 400"><font face="Times New
Roman" size="5" color="#FFFFFF">R.L. Blair</font></span><p>&nbsp;</p>
<table cellSpacing="0" cellPadding="0" width="759" border="0"
id="table1">
<tr>
<td>
<p align="center"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:
400">
<font color="#ffffff" size="3">Email us for
price and availability, or for a
request.&nbsp; In your email please include
your phone number, and the
title of the sculpture you are inquiring
about.</font></span></td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<form method="POST" action="--WEBBOT-SELF--"
onSubmit="location.href='_derived/nortbots.htm';return false;"
webbot-onSubmit>
<p><strong>Enter your sculpture inquiry in the space
provided below:</strong></p>
<dl>
<dd><textarea name="Comments" rows="5"
cols="42"></textarea></dd>
</dl>
<p><strong>Tell us how to get in touch with you:</strong></p>
<dl>
<dd>
<table>
<tr>
<td>Name</td>
<td>
<input type="text" size="35"
maxlength="256" name="Username"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>E-mail</td>
<td>
<input type="text" size="35"
maxlength="256" name="UserEmail"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Tel</td>
<td><input type="text" size="35"
maxlength="256" name="UserTel"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>FAX</td>
<td><input type="text" size="35"
maxlength="256" name="UserFAX"></td>
</tr>
</table>
<p>&nbsp;</dd>
</dl>
<dl>
<dd>
<input type="checkbox" name="ContactRequested"
value="ContactRequested">
Please contact me as soon as possible regarding this
inquiry.</dd>
</dl>
<p><a title="Submit Inquiry"
href="mailto:[email protected]"><input type="submit"
value="Submit Inquiry"></a>
<input type="reset" value="Clear Form"><font size="3">
</font></p>
</form>
<hr>
<p align="center"><b>
<a href="index.htm" style="text-decoration: none">
<font size="5" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">Back to
Home</font></a><font size="5" color="#000000">
</font>&nbsp;</b> <b> <a href="gallery.htm" style="text-decoration:
none">
<font color="#000000" size="5" face="Times New Roman">View
Gallery</font></a></b></p>&nbsp;<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Copyright ©2006 R.L. Blair. All rights reserved.
Revised:
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-->.<font size="3">&nbsp;
</p>
</body>

</html>

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