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thanks
its a good app, but does not support html.
i dont need to code html tags (html editor), i need to store info like i
do in keynote (rtf format) but also be able to store it in html format
(sometimes i need to copy paste from websites).

burnr said the following:
 
thanks
its a good app, but does not support html.
i dont need to code html tags (html editor), i need to store info like
i do in keynote (rtf format) but also be able to store it in html
format (sometimes i need to copy paste from websites).

It supports html. What your describing above is exactly what CodeBank
does :) It could be used as an editor, but it is mainly for keeping your
code organized. "copy paste from websites"...sure it's easy. View
source, copy and paste into CodeBank. The code is copied intact.
 
C. Sousa said:
i dont need to code html tags (html editor), i need to store info like i
do in keynote (rtf format) but also be able to store it in html format
(sometimes i need to copy paste from websites).

I am looking for something similar.

I am looking for a notes program which can use html in wysiwyg editor
mode. That would allow copy and paste from web sites too, of course.

A fast web page editor combined with a database program maybe.
With templates for notes in different styles, background color, text
color, etc..

It would only need a small subset of the html standard.
Links for jumping within and outside the notes database.

It should allow immediate input of new notes, which can be sorted and
placed later. Find notes based on keywords, titles, colors, etc..
 
as i said i dont want to copy code. i know nothing about
code/source/html tags and so on...
I just want to store information. I DONT WANT to do "view source"
because i'm not interested in code (what <html> means? :-)). I just want
to copy a table, a text, a text + table .... from any website and
paste stored somewhere to look at it later.
CodeBank does not allow me to see html... ok, i can see the code, but i
dont want even know that such thing (code) exists.

thanks anyway. i'll keep CodeBank because its a small useful app and i
sure will use it for other purposes.

burnr said the following:
 
Roger Johansson said the following:
C. Sousa wrote:
I am looking for something similar.
A fast web page editor combined with a database program maybe.
With templates for notes in different styles, background color, text
color, etc..

or maybe something like Keynote (open source) combined with mozilla
composer (open source)
 
or maybe something like Keynote (open source) combined with mozilla
composer (open source)

I think mozilla composer is far too slow to be of any use in this type
of project.

This is a type of program I have been looking for for years.
The problem seems to be to find a good and fast wysiwyg html editor.

A freeware program which has some of the functions in Micrologic
Infoselect, like Tornado Notes but in a modern form, and a little like
Keynote with html instead of rtf.
 
as i said i dont want to copy code. i know nothing about
code/source/html tags and so on...
I just want to store information. I DONT WANT to do "view source"
because i'm not interested in code (what <html> means? :-)). I just want
to copy a table, a text, a text + table .... from any website and
paste stored somewhere to look at it later.
CodeBank does not allow me to see html... ok, i can see the code, but i
dont want even know that such thing (code) exists.

HTML is text with mark-up commands. Only a 'Web Browser' will display
HTML 'code' formatted.

You can simply save the HTML file to your hard disk and then later
load it (open) with any web browser, such as IE, Netscape, Opera, Lynx
etc.

Matt
 
There was a similar request for an item like this earlier. I don't think you
are going to find what you are looking for. There are commercial/ shareware
products that do this, but no freeware ones that I know of. However, here
are soem potential workaround for you.

I keep all my HTML archives in one folder. You can use a program like
InfoRapid to search for words or phrases in all the HTML docs. It will also
do regular expression searches. You can find it at:

http://www.inforapid.de/html/english.htm

It will let you correctly preview your HTML docs.

At the same time, I use MS Word to create a simple HTML index file in which
I create hyperlinks to each file in the folder, along with a description of
the content. Alternately, you can paste HTML directly into Word and simply
keep one big file with all your HTML content in it. You can use Words
outline features to help organize your info within this big file.

Now before the regulars here start booing and hissing at my mention of a
commercial, Microsoft product, I believe that Open Office's word processor
has the same capability. I use Word only because I already have it. Open
Office is a huge download for someone on dial-up though. However, it's far
faster than trying to use a WYSIWYG HTML editor for this purpose.

In a similar vein, HTMLDoc will let you combine HTML files and create a
Table of Contents based on the headings of the individual files. So, if you
want to combine all your gardening related HTML references into one file,
this is the program to do it easily for you.

http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/

There is also a neat program called Indexer 2, available from:

http://www.jansfreeware.com/

You point it to the relevant HTML files and it will produce a frameset. The
left-hand frame will have hyperlinks to the files as well as any bookmarks
within those files. The right-hand frame displays the file itself. This
gives you the Keynote-like interface (but not the comprehensive text search
capability).

None of these is ideas is what you are looking for precisely. However, you
start to see that if you combine some of these ideas you start to come close
to what you are looking for. . .

HTH
 
C. Sousa said:
i dont need to code html tags (html editor), i need to store info like i
do in keynote (rtf format) but also be able to store it in html format
(sometimes i need to copy paste from websites).

I have this in a payware. <www.wjjsoft.com> Tree-pane layout. Also with
a links / attachments pane. It imports html files and displays browser
style. Same with those launched from the links pane. It does a good job.
It is particularly outstanding on import/export of tree to html and vice
versa.

An FYI: It accomplishes the html features by utilizing MSIE controls.

Even if this were a payware group, I'd not recommend this software, for
reasons to do with its fairly high pricetag (cost me over %70) -- and
that it is huge hassle-ware (even minor updates, you have to go through
the registration work all over again, requesting new key, etc,).

The point is that such software exists (and nyfedit is not unique, there
are a few other paywares that have a subset of its abilities). Now, exist
in freeware? No, not very well.

Possibility One

WinInfo 1.3 (LFW. URL?)
company's homepage $ http://www.nazasoft.com/

You can import HTML, and it will display it (as per norm, uses MSIE
controls). You can also use it as a shell-extension for any of your other
programs hosting the MS Browser Control. That is, right-click menu, for
auto-import displayed html into your WinInfo dbs. I think it also lets
you import from the explorer, by right-click on an html file. Please
allow me to speak about these two functions vaguely, without recent
testing for the moment. If I see interest, then at that point I can
explicitly test, in order to make sure to give full accuracty on the
descriptions of the html support with the shell extension.

Serious problem. No export. Save As is only to its proprietary format.
This turned me away fast from being willing to commit to this prog. But
it this doesn't bother you so much, and you think the program offers
enough of what you want, then perhaps worth taking a look. (BTW, a search
will be needed for the URL to the LFW)


Possibility Two

Correlate Personal (registerware)
http://www.correlate.com/correlate25/personal.asp

This is a fascinating program. You can lay out your data, and interlink it,
in a great combianation of forms. You have tabs, and tree, and hyperlinked
nodes, all at once. And html content, there is a pane for that. Displays
that inline (whether it's offline content or via online naviagation).

The drawback for me with r this program is that I can't really afford it on
my w98 resources allowance. It's not massive; but for a notes dbs, given all
the other things I have running concurrently, I tend to go with something
with smaller weight.
 
Roger said:
C. Sousa wrote:




I am looking for something similar.

I am looking for a notes program which can use html in wysiwyg editor
mode. That would allow copy and paste from web sites too, of course.

A fast web page editor combined with a database program maybe.
With templates for notes in different styles, background color, text
color, etc..

It would only need a small subset of the html standard.
Links for jumping within and outside the notes database.

It should allow immediate input of new notes, which can be sorted and
placed later. Find notes based on keywords, titles, colors, etc..

I'm also looking for something like this. I found [OT] this program
http://www.jhorman.org/wikidPad/ WikidPad (Shareware).
It's a keynote style wiki system (see here -
http://www.wiki.org/wiki.cgi?WhatIsWiki Wiki: What Is Wiki)
I asked earlier but nobody answered. If the keynote developer could
adapt his program to do this it would be great or maybe some other
programmer.

There are several wiki systems (most of them open source) but few of
them are standalone and fewer don't depend on a web server (see here -
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiEngines Wiki Engines)

http://www.tinyted.net/eddie/wiki/ WikiServer
This a very smal implementation that allows you to experiment the concept.

dM
 
C. Sousa said:
i dont need to code html tags (html editor), i need to store info like i
do in keynote (rtf format) but also be able to store it in html format
(sometimes i need to copy paste from websites).

In your subject heading, you say tabbed interface. Yet in the subject body,
you say "like KeyNote." Keynote has two concurrent aspects to its interface.
One is tabs. But the other is the first thing we think about, when you say
Keynote. Its tree layout. In my prior message, I tried to address that.

But, if its not necessarily a treepad like database you need, but more the
tabs aspect, then you might be able to find what you want in one of those
editors that get categorized often within a group called progammer's
editors.

[1] The great majority use a tabbed interface

[2] You'd look for a Project Manager type feature. This will let you have
hmtl pages persistently grouped together.

[3] A few of these offer HTML preview, by hosting the MS Browser Control (*)

[4] Just my prefs. It'd be nice to find one that has these three features,
plus minus some common weaknesses in the group. One is lacking wordwrap.
Another is that naviagation through an inline explorer pane does not
provide option to re-use existing document tab, but instead spawns large
numbers of new windows.

I can come up with a few examples of one that meet [1]-[3]. After I dig
around for a bit...(my installs of this kind of prog, many are fairly
recent).

I can say in advance, to use something from this group, you'd have to
/not/ be repelled by occasionally seeing html source. It will probably
be the general inital display, where you then hit the preview icon, to
get the inline browser display.

________
(* one day using the Mozilla control for the same purpose will become
more common, but for now it's the MS one much longer developed)
 
How about saving to html files first? (If you only want partial content,
then that can be done too, btw.) Then. Use an editor that has a Project
Manager feature, together with an inline browser view display. Import
your saved html files into the editor's Project file

Here's something fairly straightforward for this use:

Bonfire Studio
http://nzworks.com/bonfire/screenshots/thumb_browserview.gif

For cleanliness for this purpose, uncheck the "output view" lower pane.

Your Project pane, I like it docked vertically on the left. Import
new docs intor your project -- singly or in groups -- through the menu
or by dragging from the explorer.

In theProject pane, you get hierarchical layout: nested subfolders, etc.
You can create a tree, drag documents around, move them between subfolders
and so forth.

In the document display, there is one loaded doc at a time. That loaded
doc has three available tabs: source, xml, or browser view.

If you like, you can configure Bonfire to always show only one tab for
html files. You could choose strictly browser view, as the one tab.

You can also have image files as part of a project file. Those would use
the Browser Control too, for automatic display.

Your project file is a special .xpr document, for Bonfire Studio to
load. Basically telling it just a file list to load as a particular
group, together with the layout. Source view on an .xpr says XML type.
As to the files that get loaded, those are html files on disk. So the
good thing is you don't have to worry about import/export concerns.
Also can change those html files with any editor, if you desire.

http://nzworks.com/bonfire/index.asp


_______________________________
Footnotes. I initially liked Bonfire, but had two things that bothered
me. One was common problem: the lack of wordwrap view.

The other is that it makes copies of the files you configure to be part
of a project, and puts them in a new folder. Then in .xpr file you see
(1) the filename, relative path since its a file now in the same folder as
the .xpr file. Plus (2) the original absolute path on disk.

Having two copies was something I did not want, for my purposes. Yet for
other purposes, say those similar to the OP's, where there is not a lot
of editing going on, might be fine.

I should note. I did not take time to investigate what goes on when you
edit one of the files that are part of a Bonfire project, in the various
scenarios: Bonfire interface; or original location or new location, with
external program; etc. Short sum, it's an area of confusion for me, the
file copies, and I haven't gone through and investigated the specifics of
its behaviors in this matter.
 
[omega said:
Use an editor that has a Project Manager feature, together with
an inline browser view display. Import your saved html files into
the editor's Project file.

Here's something fairly straightforward for this use:

Bonfire Studio
http://nzworks.com/bonfire/screenshots/thumb_browserview.gif

For cleanliness for this purpose, uncheck the "output view" lower pane.

Your Project pane, I like it docked vertically on the left. Import
new docs intor your project -- singly or in groups -- through the menu
or by dragging from the explorer.

In theProject pane, you get hierarchical layout: nested subfolders, etc.
You can create a tree, drag documents around, move them between subfolders
and so forth.

In the document display, there is one loaded doc at a time. That loaded
doc has three available tabs: source, xml, or browser view.

Minor correction. First, this part is true: only 1-3 tabs show at a time,
and they are all for the doc in the foreground.

Yet also. You can have multiple document windows shown in the primary
display -- cascaded or tiled.
If you like, you can configure Bonfire to always show only one tab for
html files. You could choose strictly browser view, as the one tab.

You can also have image files as part of a project file. Those would use
the Browser Control too, for automatic display.

Up thread, I'd mentioned that there are some choices of editors that have
the concurrent features of "Project" files, together with inline browser
view.

Same time, all of the others that I have seen, you have to click something
to toggle between source view and browser view. This makes Bonfire Studio
unique to my experience, within that "programmer's editor" category, in its
allowing a user to preset filetypes to only show browser view.

And that available setting addresses OP's wish to not see html source.



.. . .

My personal conflicts with it still stand.

No wordwrap. When working with text, plain files, or marked up, this can
be a serious, even crippling, problem. The lack of wordwrap is totally
pervasive in the programmer's editor category, but it doesn't make it
any less painful to me.

Second, the automatic file copies to new folder, when using projects.
Perhaps someone else might be interested/willing (?) to experiment with
Bonfire, and give a good outline of its behavior there under various file
change circumstances.
 
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