HP : Moving forward

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HP : Moving forward

The world's economic, social and environmental problems are so
extensive that challenges will undoubtedly remain for the foreseeable
future. HP's objective is to continually increase our positive impact
through our global citizenship work, while responding to changing needs
and seeking areas where our investment is most effective. We are
focused on three challenges for the coming three to five years:
addressing electronic waste, raising standards in HP's global supply
chain and increasing access to information technology. These are
critical issues facing our industry, and we are committed to making a
positive contribution. Although we are pleased with progress to date,
much remains to be done.

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Complete document :
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/gcreport/pdf/gcr_abridged_05.pdf
 
HP : Moving forward

The world's economic, social and environmental problems are so
extensive that challenges will undoubtedly remain for the foreseeable
future. HP's objective is to continually increase our positive impact
through our global citizenship work, while responding to changing needs
and seeking areas where our investment is most effective. We are
focused on three challenges for the coming three to five years:
addressing electronic waste, raising standards in HP's global supply
chain and increasing access to information technology. These are
critical issues facing our industry, and we are committed to making a
positive contribution. Although we are pleased with progress to date,
much remains to be done.

Please send comments to (e-mail address removed)

Complete document :
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/gcreport/pdf/gcr_abridged_05.pdf
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Indeed *MUCH* remains to be done:

1. Market OpenVMS

VMS is one of HP's highest margin products, yet among the Windows
generation it's practically unknown or considered dead and buried, and
long-time VMS veterans like myself are literally *SCREAMING* to have it
be marketed against (the software that still makes almost daily
headlines for security issues - I don't actually have to name it, do
I?). Even one of the biggest VMS VARs in the healthcare field tells its
customers that it's moving its middleware to Wintel (is that HIPAA
compliant?) and leaving only the back-end on VMS/Oracle.

Since misc.invest.stocks is one of the groups in this cross posting I'll
express that I'm surprised that to date, neither Compaq nor HP were ever
called to account for such poor fiduciary stewardship as leaving this
virtual gold mine of product to rot in ignominity and anonymity.

After all the remarks about "de-facto standard" systems (the
unenlightened call them "industry standard", but no recognized standards
group considers them as such), and market dominance and ..., I've yet to
hear a valid explanation for not marketing OpenVMS vigorously and highly
visibly in the mainstream trade media.

2. OpenVMS-x86

A mentor of mine holds that "you can make money or you can make excuses,
but you can't make both". To date, when asked why 32-bit OpenVMS was
never successfully ported to IA32 I usually get a lot of rote blather
about the CPU architecture. Didn't seem to stand in Itanic's way. Even
Alpha had PALcode.

Two questions:
A. What is the total dollar value of the IA32 software market (operating
systems)?
B. What is OpenVMS's share of that market?

Need I say more?

3. OpenVMS-x86/64

Much noise is made on comp.os.vms about every major vendor that gave up
on IA64, especially when Dell entered and then backed out of that market
for the second time.

It becomes obvious that IA64 will *NEVER* be a de-facto standard
platform (the unenlightened call them "industry standard"). x86-64 is
likely the only true way to ensure OpenVMS's future. *THAT* is where the
industry is going. *THAT* is where OpenVMS needs to be.

HP needs to stop making excuses and get busy positioning itself and its
products to make *BIG* money.

Let's see... Did I mention advertising OpenVMS in the mainstream trade
media? Yes, I did.

O.k. I'm done for now then.

--
David J Dachtera
dba DJE Systems
http://www.djesys.com/

Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/

Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/

Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/

Coming soon:
Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page
 
... (is that HIPAA compliant?)
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It's my understanding that Windows was known to be
non-compliant, but the basic MS argument was, "Do you really want to
try to get the majority of hospitals and doctors change to another OS?
You know they will slay HIPAA if that's a condition." So the govt
stamped Windows as compliant and just grandfathered it in.
 
It's my understanding that Windows was known to be
non-compliant, but the basic MS argument was, "Do you really want to
try to get the majority of hospitals and doctors change to another OS?
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Hospitals and doctors don't care about o.s.-es. As long as it has a GUI
that everyone can understand and the database servers have uptimes
measured with someone beyond an hourglass, they're happy.
You know they will slay HIPAA if that's a condition." So the govt
stamped Windows as compliant and just grandfathered it in.
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I guess they'll have to learn the hardway. Of course, they don't "learn"
really, they just go into denial and blame the hackers instead of their
own ridiculous choices.

Where I would be going if I were them:

Where we are today:

Windows <-> Windows+Citrix <-> VMS or AIX + Oracle + backend server
components

Where I would be going if I were them:

(Windows + Reflection/X) or (Linux + X) <-> VMS or AIX + Oracle +
backend server components + front-end client/server components

That is, reduce three tiers down to two or less. Let the actual user
application run on the same machine(s) as the middle-ware and the
database. Only the GUI runs on the desktop.

No more Citrix hassles, and the middle-ware and backend/database remain
safely out of the reach of worms, viruses, trojans, etc.

--
David J Dachtera
dba DJE Systems
http://www.djesys.com/

Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/

Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/

Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/

Coming soon:
Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page
 
Hospitals and doctors don't care about o.s.-es. As long as it has a GUI
that everyone can understand and the database servers have uptimes
measured with someone beyond an hourglass, they're happy.
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I agree with your migration plan, but there is no way the
government is going to be able to tell hospitals their IT depearments
have to get off a fundamentally insecure OS and migrate to a secure OS
as you suggest. It's already too late -- they're already set up
(except for mainframe components) in a Windows environment. It would
be nice, but I can already hear the hospials screaming rape about the
added burden of doing it right.
 
I agree with your migration plan, but there is no way the
government is going to be able to tell hospitals their IT depearments
have to get off a fundamentally insecure OS and migrate to a secure OS
as you suggest. It's already too late -- they're already set up
(except for mainframe components) in a Windows environment. It would
be nice, but I can already hear the hospials screaming rape about the
added burden of doing it right.
Click to expand...

Well, the government doesn't tell anyone what to use. All they'll say is
that (x) is non-compliant for whatever reason. You then spend the rest
of your career playing trial-and-error until you find a suitable
combination.

....and don't worry about "hospials screaming rape about the added burden
of doing it right". You and I will be the ones who get "raped" when they
pass the costs on to us.

--
David J Dachtera
dba DJE Systems
http://www.djesys.com/

Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/

Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/

Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/

Coming soon:
Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page
 
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