how to set 3D clocks on 1900 XT???

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I now know the clock that are shown in Overdrive
tab are for 2D. How do I set the 3D clocks?
 
jeff said:
I now know the clock that are shown in Overdrive
tab are for 2D. How do I set the 3D clocks?

Overdrive works for *all* applications (2D and 3D). The settings only
stay active for your current Windows session unless you click the
'Preserve ATI Overdrive settings at logon' checkbox at the lower right
of the Overdrive window. If you check the 'Enable ATI Overdrive clocks
for 3D applications only', then Overdrive is active ONLY for 3D
programs. Check out the user guide for your card at:
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/manuals/radeonx1900ug.pdf
 
Overdrive works for *all* applications (2D and 3D).

My question is how do you adjust the 3D clocks? There's a slider
that says "requested clocks" which ranges from 621 to 690 Mhz.
My guess is that "requested clocks" is cryptic code for "3D clocks".
Thing is, adjusting this up or down doesn't affect my framerate
in games so it appears that these two sliders don't do anything.

Check out the user guide for your card at:

I D/L the manual, but it doesn't even show a Overdrive tab, so based on
the manual, clock adjustment isn't possible.
 
KCB said:
Overdrive works for *all* applications (2D and 3D).

Except on cards where is it disabled in 2D.
The settings only
stay active for your current Windows session unless you click the
'Preserve ATI Overdrive settings at logon' checkbox at the lower right
of the Overdrive window.

If that bit of the shitty control center works for you. On my system the
minimum 'overdrive' is still overclocked so having enabled the overdrive
bollocks once I can't not overclock in full screen 3D and can't overclock
it for 2D or windowed 3D. That means every time I switch away from a full
screen window about 2 seconds later I get two 1/2 second pauses with screen
flickers when the control center crap turns the clock back down. So
annoying that it forced me to remove control center to get rid of it.

Because ATI control center software is such a completely illogical,
bloated, ugly pile of crap this is absolutely the last ATI card I buy.
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The basic method for overclocking an X1900XT is:
1. Disable the 2D/3D changeover sensing by disabling the "ATi Hotkey Poller"
startup service in XP.
2. Set the 2D clocks *and voltages* to the desired value using ATiTool, then
have it apply to 3D mode as well. Follow the instructions here:
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=113386

It's a slightly more involved process than what we are used to. On the flip
side, since the card has real-time voltage adjustment, the overclocking
potential is quite good, as long as your cooling can keep up.
 
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Except on cards where is it disabled in 2D.


If that bit of the shitty control center works for you. On my system the
minimum 'overdrive' is still overclocked so having enabled the overdrive
bollocks once I can't not overclock in full screen 3D and can't overclock
it for 2D or windowed 3D. That means every time I switch away from a full
screen window about 2 seconds later I get two 1/2 second pauses with screen
flickers when the control center crap turns the clock back down. So
annoying that it forced me to remove control center to get rid of it.

Because ATI control center software is such a completely illogical,
bloated, ugly pile of crap this is absolutely the last ATI card I buy.

and don't forget you have to install that .net crap to :(

that's why I got a nvidia card on this system and couldn't be happier
you don't have to have .net just to install a control panel to adjust
you're settings. but on the system I have my ATI card installed I just
install the latest driver then install the control panel from the 5.11
driver and it works fine
 
nVidia now has a control center, too, that takes up about 30 MB of RAM when
open. However, it is better behaved and unloads itself from memory upon
exit.

Anyway, as long as there are decent 3rd-party utilities like ATi Tray Tools,
the efficiency of the control panel / control center is moot. Even when I
had my Geforce3, I used Rivatuner, not opening the nVidia control panel for
months at a time. :-)
 
nVidia now has a control center, too, that takes up about 30 MB of RAM when
open. However, it is better behaved and unloads itself from memory upon
exit.

Anyway, as long as there are decent 3rd-party utilities like ATi Tray Tools,
the efficiency of the control panel / control center is moot. Even when I
had my Geforce3, I used Rivatuner, not opening the nVidia control panel for
months at a time. :-)

Yea but I don't have to use the .net crap just to have it installed
and that makes it all allot better :-)
 
I don't know what your problem is with .Net, but you are way off the
deep end on that matter.
 
From what I read .NET doesn't cause the performance slowdowns or the large
memory footprint - that's all CCC's doing. Simply disable CCC from loading
as a startup service if you don't need to use it often.

Personally I don't have .NET or CCC installed. I use the "Chuck" drivers for
Oblivion, which is a complete driver package. I then just install ATi Tray
Tools. HDR + AA with essentially no drawbacks. :-)
 
Barry said:
I don't know what your problem is with .Net, but you are way off the
deep end on that matter.

Mmmm, I've never had a concern about the .NET framework, but I don't
much like the CCC app itself. Which I think is a reasonable point of
view, and which has nothing to do with Microsoft! Problem is, folks
will make blanket statements blaming .NET for any failings
(bloatedness), or if not failings then let's say dislikes, of the CCC. I
would like to see an end to the .NET references altogether, and just
start talking about the CCC, or the .NET based CCC if we must. There
are some fine apps running under the .NET framework. .NET is a pain
initially if you run a single user PC and don't want a logon screen, I
have to say, but if you overcome that, and you can, .NET is a silent
partner, with nothing whatsoever to do with the slow start-up/memory hog
criticisms that may be levelled - with justification - at the CCC itself.


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Mmmm, I've never had a concern about the .NET framework, but I don't
much like the CCC app itself. Which I think is a reasonable point of
view, and which has nothing to do with Microsoft! Problem is, folks
will make blanket statements blaming .NET for any failings
(bloatedness), or if not failings then let's say dislikes, of the CCC. I
would like to see an end to the .NET references altogether, and just
start talking about the CCC, or the .NET based CCC if we must. There
are some fine apps running under the .NET framework. .NET is a pain
initially if you run a single user PC and don't want a logon screen, I
have to say, but if you overcome that, and you can, .NET is a silent
partner, with nothing whatsoever to do with the slow start-up/memory hog
criticisms that may be levelled - with justification - at the CCC itself.

Good point this is a single user computer here and that's why I don't
like .net the log on screen sucks and I did figure out how to get rid
if the log on screen stuff, but CCC sucks it don't run worth a S***
the plain old control panel worked just fine and I'm sure ATI could of
added stuff to the control panel version with out forcing you to
install .net or they just need to figure out how to get the CCC to
work with out taking up resources
 
First of One said:
Personally I don't have .NET or CCC installed. I use the "Chuck" drivers for
Oblivion, which is a complete driver package. I then just install ATi Tray
Tools. HDR + AA with essentially no drawbacks. :-)

Which is fine when ATI Tray tools works, all it does on my current system
is tell me I don't have and ATI card or ATI drivers installed.
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Ian O said:
Mmmm, I've never had a concern about the .NET framework, but I don't much like the CCC app itself. Which I think is a reasonable
point of view, and which has nothing to do with Microsoft! Problem is, folks will make blanket statements blaming .NET for any
failings (bloatedness), or if not failings then let's say dislikes, of the CCC. I would like to see an end to the .NET references
altogether, and just start talking about the CCC, or the .NET based CCC if we must. There are some fine apps running under the
.NET framework. .NET is a pain initially if you run a single user PC and don't want a logon screen, I have to say, but if you
overcome that, and you can, .NET is a silent partner, with nothing whatsoever to do with the slow start-up/memory hog criticisms
that may be levelled - with justification - at the CCC itself.


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I use CCC on a single user PC and my problem's are all startup related also.

But for me NET framework is the reason because CCC can not start before it and has to wait.
I would guess this might only be true because my PC starts fast and can not start CCC
until NET framework is ready or it will fail with that permissions error.

It must be there for good reason. But on my PC removing that "/Delay" switch when CLI.exe
loads knocks at least 15 seconds off its startup time.


Dan
 
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