How to remove UI options

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Jimmy Pork Stix

Hi - can anyone offer any help on this one?

User says only managers should be able to mark email as
unread.

All users are able to go into email by double clicking on
it and under edit and mark it as unread. She says they
should have that option to mark email as unread. Currently
they can't just right click on the email and mark it as
unread but they can through another way by opening up an
email. She wants that option taken away from them.

GPO?
 
I'm not sure I understand the question. You're looking for a way for users
to not be able to mark mail in their own mailboxes as unread?


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"She says they should have that option ..."
"She wants that option taken away from them."

Tell her to make a decision one way or the other, not both. Maybe you
forgot a "not" or other negative in your sentence(s) because it is
unclear what YOU are trying to say that she wants to restrict from her
"users". SHE should post her own question in this newsgroup. A friend
asking on behalf of a friend about other friends .... yeah, right.
 
I think you misunderstood.

Option: mark mail as UNread - understand: employee has read mail, responded
in a bad way or not at all, now there are problems because of that and
employee wants to get out of it by showing manager the Outlook screen and
saying "look, I have not read it yet, I was too busy, you can't blame me
etc." while in fact employee has turned the mark back to not-read.

Then:
They want to be able to do that: they = managers
They do not want them to be able to do that: they = managers, them = other
users.

That is how I understand the OP. The manager in question probably has a lot
of other problems with his own people if both employees and manager turn to
this kind of tactics, but I suppose the original poster is not in a position
to evaluate her work or explain to her that a lot of normal employees might
use the 'turn back to not read' as a way to make sure they return to the
mail at some point.

If it is possible to change this, you'll have to try and look for it on the
TechNet site I'm afraid. It will require some specialist tweaking.

If I were the OP I'd explain that it is maybe possible but would require
several days of research and working on it (and do nothing else instead) and
ask her if that is ok to go and the n ask for an extra day to make sure that
managers still can turn read mail back to not read.

--DeLa
 
Its a shared mailbox, I don't think its possible.

Thanks for the humorous dialogue.
 
DeLa said:
I think you misunderstood.

Option: mark mail as UNread - understand: employee has read mail,
responded in a bad way or not at all, now there are problems because
of that and employee wants to get out of it by showing manager the
Outlook screen and saying "look, I have not read it yet, I was too
busy, you can't blame me etc." while in fact employee has turned the
mark back to not-read.

Then:
They want to be able to do that: they = managers
They do not want them to be able to do that: they = managers, them =
other users.

That is how I understand the OP. The manager in question probably has
a lot of other problems with his own people if both employees and
manager turn to this kind of tactics, but I suppose the original
poster is not in a position to evaluate her work or explain to her
that a lot of normal employees might use the 'turn back to not read'
as a way to make sure they return to the mail at some point.

If it is possible to change this, you'll have to try and look for it
on the TechNet site I'm afraid. It will require some specialist
tweaking.

If I were the OP I'd explain that it is maybe possible but would
require several days of research and working on it (and do nothing
else instead) and ask her if that is ok to go and the n ask for an
extra day to make sure that managers still can turn read mail back to
not read.

--DeLa

Then I'd suggest the manager enforce a policy where read receipts must
be enabled for an automatic response. Whatever the user does with the
read and unread options is irrelevant since a read receipt would have
been sent to the sender. However, to prevent abuse of read receipts
from senders outside the company, the company's mail server should strip
out the header from e-mails that specifies a request for a read receipt.
I think this is the "Disposition-Notification-To: "sendername"
<senderemail>" header. Then the only read receipts that the recipient
will send are those to senders within the same company. The sender
would have to remember to request a read receipt. For time critical
e-mails or to prove the recipient read their e-mail, this would be
mandatory, anyway.

Alternatively, the sender could request a delivery receipt. If the only
requirement was to verify the message got delivered and recipients were
responsible for monitoring their e-mails then the excuse of "I haven't
read it" would prove the employee was not doing their job (provided
their manager alloted sufficient time for the employee to read their
e-mails based on how busy that employee was with other tasks, and a
manager should be tracking their employee's progress; otherwise, the
lazy manager is the one that needs "correction"). It got to their
mailbox and they are responsible for reading all their e-mails as part
of their employment. If they don't want to perform their job duties
then they can seek employment elsewhere that doesn't have this condition
of employment. They do their job or they get canned.

Want to travel to new places, see new people, have new experiences?
**** up one more time and you're fired! Travel to the unemployment
office, see new people in the long lines, and learn to wash dishes and
ask "You want fries with that?".
 
DeLa said:
I think you misunderstood.
Option: mark mail as UNread - understand: employee has read mail, responded
in a bad way or not at all, now there are problems because of that and
employee wants to get out of it by showing manager the Outlook screen and
saying "look, I have not read it yet, I was too busy, you can't blame me
etc." while in fact employee has turned the mark back to not-read.

That's a problem for HR, not IT.

"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems"
-Ed-

Set a policy that specifies that all business e-mail must be dealt with
within a certain period of time. That's essentially just a service-level
agreement. Journal all outbound messages at the server so they can't claim
they didn't reply when they did. If they claim they didn't read it then
they're in violation of the policy that mandates they read it within a
specific period of time.
If it is possible to change this, you'll have to try and look for it on the
TechNet site I'm afraid. It will require some specialist tweaking.

I can't see any way that this could be done without crippling the
functionality of the mailbox. You'd essentially have to strip almost all
rights to the mailbox.
If I were the OP I'd explain that it is maybe possible but would require
several days of research and working on it (and do nothing else instead) and
ask her if that is ok to go and the n ask for an extra day to make sure that
managers still can turn read mail back to not read.

If I were them I'd explain that it's a silly request. But that's just me.
<grin>


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Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, OneNote-MVP
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr

**I apologize but I am unable to respond to direct requests for assistance.
Please post questions and replies here in the newsgroup. Mahalo!
 
You could remove their Edit/Change permissions on the mailbox, but then they
wouldn't be able to mark the item as Read to begin with. Or delete the
item.


--
Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, OneNote-MVP
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr

**I apologize but I am unable to respond to direct requests for assistance.
Please post questions and replies here in the newsgroup. Mahalo!
 
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