How to convert Quicktime movie for MovieMaker?

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I have a Quicktime file that I would like to use in my movie... HOwever, it
is not a recognizable file... I can open it using VLC...but I can't change
it's file type. I even tried using Quicktime PRO in order to utilize the
'save as' instruction...but no luck with that either.... Can somebody provide
me with a little schooling please?
 
McTasty said:
I have a Quicktime file that I would like to use in my movie...
HOwever, it is not a recognizable file... I can open it using
VLC...but I can't change it's file type. I even tried using
Quicktime PRO in order to utilize the 'save as' instruction...but no
luck with that either.... Can somebody provide me with a little
schooling please?
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I'm guessing the file has a .mov extension?

The QuickTime Pro site says the following:

"Just open a movie in QuickTime 7 Pro,
select Export from the File menu and choose
your destination in the Export drop-down menu."

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If you have QuickTime Pro you don't need
the following but I'll post the links anyway:

Using Rad Video Tools
http://tinyurl.com/pd244
(convert MOV files into AVI files)

Movie Maker 2 - Converting
MOV Files
http://tinyurl.com/rmhu6

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John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
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http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

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I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

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Using Rad Video Tools
http://tinyurl.com/pd244
(convert MOV files into AVI files)

As it happened, I looked for a solution to this same problem
this morning, found RAD Video Tools, installed and tested them,
and am entirely satisfied for this purpose.

The uncompressed intermediate AVI files can be huge, but you can
delete them after using them as Movie Maker input.

Hans-Georg
 
I did what you told me to do Export and choose file... but the resulting File
when opened just displayed a photo of the QuickTIme Skin that open up when
you double click on Quicktime.... ??? And Then VLC Started working
improperly. IS this a bug in my computer? Sorry to bother you again!

PS.. I got the rad video tools.... and it worked. THank you so much!
 
McTasty said:
I did what you told me to do Export and choose file... but the
resulting File when opened just displayed a photo of the QuickTIme
Skin that open up when you double click on Quicktime.... ??? And
Then VLC Started working improperly. IS this a bug in my computer?
Sorry to bother you again!
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Sorry...I have no idea what happened. As for the
instructions...they came directly from the QuickTime
site.
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PS.. I got the rad video tools.... and it worked.
THank you so much!
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Well...at least something is working correctly.

You're welcome and thanks for the feedback.

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John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

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This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
To add one more file conversion option:

http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html

Yes, I had tried that too, but it seems to be unsuitable,
because it offers only certain combinations of resolution and
frame rate. It does not offer, for example, to retain the
resolution and frame rate of the original, which is usually the
only sensible option.

I installed it, looked at it for a few seconds, then uninstalled
it again.

Hans-Georg
 
You must have looked far too quickly because the option "No Change" is right
there under video scale size, as well as stream copy where that is
applicable..

Also under video scale size ticking the More box opens up 3 user
customizable resolution settings. The same holds for Frame rate, where
besides the 14 preset framerate selections ,which include the standard
rates, ticking the More box opens a further 3 user customizable frame rate
presets..
 
ticking the More box opens up 3 user
customizable resolution settings. The same holds for Frame rate, where
besides the 14 preset framerate selections ,which include the standard
rates, ticking the More box opens a further 3 user customizable frame rate
presets..

Ralf,

thanks, but I don't see that here. Perhaps these frame rate
choices only show up under certain conditions, which aren't met
here? Just now I see four frame rate choices, all in the range
of 23 to 30 frames/s. The most obvious and usually the only
sensible choice, namely to retain the frame rate of the original
file, is not there.

I have just installed SUPER again and am now trying it for
another conversion, MPEG-2 to WMV. A few things are irksome:

1. There are no choices for variable bit rate, neither for video
nor for sound. Constant bit rates are not anything I would ever
consider.

2. This is the first encoder I encounter that shows only 50%
processor load on this dual-core processor. Microsoft's Movie
Maker, for example, shows about 90%.

3. The program has a choice named Encode, but it doesn't ask me
where and under what filename I want the result. I find this
strange from a user interface point of view, because I'm now
worried that it is writing a file just anywhere and I may not
even be able to find it.

All in all the program seems a bit strange to me. This is a
pity, because at first it looks as if it could be very useful.

Hans-Georg
 
I have just installed SUPER again and am now trying it for
another conversion, MPEG-2 to WMV.

Deinstalled SUPER a second time after a codec running under it,
ffmpeg, repeatedly crashed. Couldn't identify any causes.
Haven't seen that codec crash before either.

Hans-Georg
 
You are right about the additional frame rate choices only showing up under
certain conditions. The available rates change with the selected output file
format. For WMV, MPG1, MPG2 the choices are 23.976, 29.97, 25 and 30 while
for DVD compliant VOB there are only 2 choices, 25 and 29.97. With Super
build .23, if you choose AVI, SWF, MP4 or MOV formats as the output type the
choices of framerate expands to 14 presets ranging from 5.994 up to 60,
plus 3 more user customizable presets when "More" is selected. Sample screen
cap (without the More checkbox) is here:
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPERsnap5.html

Similarly there are changes to the options depending on the encoder selected
or the output CODECs you choose, ie. AC3 adds 6 channel sound.

Regarding irksome things, my number 1 would be the lack of detailed help. No
I take that back, No.1 would be this latest version's habit of opening on my
2nd display by default.

As far as;

Variable bit rate files... some savings in file size but my personal pet
peeve as they are a non-standard PITA to deal with after-the-fact. Not much
sympathy here but I agree if you like to use them you should be able to.
What I found is this; Converting a WMV file to AVI and selecting MEncoder
(Divx5, MP3) and Hi Quality option the AVI file came out @ 20MB size.
Switching to ffmpeg with the same settings I got a 30MB file and a variable
bitrate audio warning from VirtualDub. Changing only the encoder option to
Top Quality (available with ffmpeg but not MEncoder) the file size dropped
to 10MB, also producing a VBR warning in VirtuaDub. Unfortunately the video
quality, not good in the original to start with, suffered quite a bit in the
10MB size.

The processor load being so low can only be a good thing. SUPER is just a
GUI front end for a number of open-source decoders, encoders (some of them
also used by RAD Tools if I'm not mistaken)
and CODECs that it comes bundled with.

The location of your encoded files is set via the right-click menu option
"Output file saving management". You can save the output file into any
folder and change spaces in the name to underscores but regretably you can't
(AFAIK) change the file name at this stage. What SUPER does to differentiate
the new file from the original is append the old file extension into the new
filename. xxxxx.yyy becomes xxxx.yyy.zzz

As a self-contained video converson solution with a short learning curve I
still find it usefull, whatever its quirks.
 
That's too bad. I tried to replicate the problem. Didn't have an MPEG-2 file
so I converted an XVID AVI to MPEG-2 then converted the MPEG-2 to WMV. No
problems at any stage. I had a quick look in the SUPER forums but the only
hint was that there might be one of several possible MS files missing from
the computer. At least that is what one other person confirmed when he was
pointed in that direction.

Ffmpeg isn't a CODEC per se but a command line file conversion utility.
Libavcodec (used in ffdshow, Videolan etc.) is included with ffmpeg though.
I thought since ffmpeg is bundled with some other video applications there
might be a version compatibility issue if more than one version exists on
the computer, or it could be a CODEC problem if the system defaults to a
codec that is incompatible with ffmpeg or some of the options set in SUPER.

Aside from the standard MS codecs, QT and Realtime, I only have ffdshow
installed to play non-MS media formats, so I haven't run into a conflict
that way. In the past I did have a lot of different codecs installed as well
as ffdshow and there were sometimes file encoding/playback problems with
different revisions of DivX or Xvid in particular.
 
Ralf,

thanks for your interesting comments!

Anyway, I've solved the problem using RAD Tools, then Movie
Maker.

Hans-Georg
 
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