How many burns with dvd burner?

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hello all, I'm wondering how many full disc burns an average dvd burner
could do before the laser wore out..anyone have any real world
experience/numbers.
Thanks.
 
philo said:
The laser itself could easily last 100,000 hours

The burner will probably die due to a mechanical failure first
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And they're so cheap, nobody worries about it anymore.
 
hello all, I'm wondering how many full disc burns an average dvd burner
could do before the laser wore out..anyone have any real world
experience/numbers.
Thanks.
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I've heard of people burning out the disks - +/-RW, usually tabletop
recorders and television. Some say actual units, but it's never
happened to me. My units flaked out when the manufacturers of disks,
over time, change methods and ID codes. Time to get a new units when
firmware upgrades are lacking, recognition and burns become
problematic, in some instances destroying new discs. Two, three
years. On the other hand, I've run into some old discs that won't read
by newer units, but may on an older unit. I look for halfway decent
discs, fairly well regarded for value, and when my burners won't pick
them up, that's when it can get annoying. Less so if I've had them
with a lot of usage. With a $200 BluRay burner, who knows where it'll
be in a year or more from now. Once a x1-speed cost $1000 and x2-speed
started hitting the Q-80 tape market at around $500.
 
SteveH said:
And they're so cheap, nobody worries about it anymore.
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Yea, and they are so cheap because they have such a high failure rate
and read issues.
 
Yea, and they are so cheap because they have such a high failure rate
and read issues.
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Stick with Taiyo Yuden brand discs instead of the cheap daily special crap
and you won't get read issues.
 
helmut said:
hello all, I'm wondering how many full disc burns an average dvd burner
could do before the laser wore out..anyone have any real world
experience/numbers.
Thanks.
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MTBF (mean time before failure) is irrelevant regarding a single
component or subcompent in a device. If another component fails inside
the device that renders it useless, what do you care if the LED was
still operable on its own?

See if the drive manufacturer provides a MTBF on the *device* that you
buy from them. Mine says the drive has an MTBF of 70000POH (power-on
hours) which is 291 days. POH doesn't mean how long power has been
supplied to the device. It means how many hours the device has been in
operation. It is highly unlikely that you are running the drive 24
hours of every day.

Rule of thumb: Expect the device to fail one day after the warranty
expires and schedule your finances accordingly.
 
hello all, I'm wondering how many full disc burns an average dvd burner
could do before the laser wore out..anyone have any real world
experience/numbers.
Thanks.
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My current burner has burned over 1800 DVDs. It's obsolete but keeps
going.
 
Michael said:
Stick with Taiyo Yuden brand discs instead of the cheap daily special crap
and you won't get read issues.
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That was a comment on optical drives in general and not burners. I
bought the BluRay version of Planet Earth to play on my PS3 and
sometimes I get a read error on the first disk and sometimes I don't. We
are talking about a set of disks that cost over $80.00 CAD. One of the
games I have gets a read error on occasion too. I used to have a 360 and
had the same issues there. One day my Omen DVD would play fine and the
next day the 360 claimed it was unreadable. They really need to improve
the reliability of optical drives. I would pay extra for that.

As for burners, I usually buy Memorex branded disks and never get issues
on my Samsung burners.
 
Rat said:
That was a comment on optical drives in general and not burners. I
bought the BluRay version of Planet Earth to play on my PS3 and
sometimes I get a read error on the first disk and sometimes I don't. We
are talking about a set of disks that cost over $80.00 CAD. One of the
games I have gets a read error on occasion too. I used to have a 360 and
had the same issues there. One day my Omen DVD would play fine and the
next day the 360 claimed it was unreadable. They really need to improve
the reliability of optical drives. I would pay extra for that.

As for burners, I usually buy Memorex branded disks and never get issues
on my Samsung burners.
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There is no such thing as "Memorex branded disks".
Companies like TDK or Sony, that sell disks with their name on the wrapper,
purchase them in bulk quantities from three or four factories which offer
the cheapest rate. If a person shops for DVDs in the Sunday paper, it's
wiser to just purchase a stable product such as Ridata/Ritek if the data is
important. If cost is not a factor, Taiyo Runden or Kodak Gold are premium
brands.
 
Kirk said:
There is no such thing as "Memorex branded disks".
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Of course there's such a thing as a Memorex branded disc. It's a
disk with the brand name Memorex on it.
Companies like TDK or Sony, that sell disks with their name on the
wrapper, purchase them in bulk quantities from three or four
factories which offer the cheapest rate.
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If you're saying that quality has nothing to do with it, you're just
being a silly troll.
If a person shops for DVDs in the Sunday paper, it's wiser to just
purchase a stable product such as Ridata/Ritek if the data is
important. If cost is not a factor, Taiyo Runden or Kodak Gold are
premium brands.
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Whether a parent company produces products from companies it owns or
not makes little difference. Quality control and testing makes a
difference, but testing can be done on any product regardless of
origin. A good brand name is earned by the products they sell, not
by whether they make all the products they sell.

Apparently you have a problem with TDK and Sony. Why don't you just
say so instead of manufacturing silly ideas about what determines
the quality of a branded product.











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John said:
Of course there's such a thing as a Memorex branded disc. It's a
disk with the brand name Memorex on it.
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Doh.

Memorex has their logo stamped on the disk at a factory in Taiwan or India.
If you're saying that quality has nothing to do with it, you're just
being a silly troll.
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Yeah, everyone is a troll in your little world.
Better check every closet and under the bed.
Whether a parent company produces products from companies it owns or
not makes little difference. Quality control and testing makes a
difference, but testing can be done on any product regardless of
origin. A good brand name is earned by the products they sell, not
by whether they make all the products they sell.

Apparently you have a problem with TDK and Sony. Why don't you just
say so instead of manufacturing silly ideas about what determines
the quality of a branded product.
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Quality control was a term that could be applied to products manufactured a
decade ago. Profit margin is the Key Word in this day and age, where cost
dictates the quality of any item.

At one time, distributors such as Memorex purchased their disks from Japan
and other reputable manufacturers. It was not uncommon to discover Moser
Baer, Ritek or even Prodisc bundled in a labeled cakebox. Chances of
finding the same quality are slim and none, odds of finding something from
India or Taiwan are the only choice if a person does not shop for Name
Brands.

If you can't realize that factories do not produce the same consistent
quality from one batch to the next, it's impossible to pound common sense
into that thick skull.
 
Of course there's such a thing as a Memorex branded disc. It's a
disk with the brand name Memorex on it.
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But Memorex just buys whatever discs they can get for a low bid and then
sticks their name on them so you never know what you're getting really.
Even if you go and use something like CD Identifier, you're not going to
find a good brand of disc under that labeling.
 
Stick with Taiyo Yuden brand discs instead of the cheap daily special crap
and you won't get read issues.
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I like Taiyo Yuden discs too, they are the best. (Currently a DVD-R
is about 31 cents). Don't buy the "budget" kind, else you'll get
some coasters. Also, beware there are fake Taiyo Yuden brands being
sold; buy from a good dealer. I've had very good luck with
supermediastore.com and they usually have free shipping.
 
Kirk said:
Memorex has their logo stamped on the disk at a factory in Taiwan or India.
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That's what branding means. I never said Memorex manufactures the disks
and I was well aware that they don't. The disks with their brand name on
them have never given me issues is what I was saying. Just about every
store sells Memorex too so I don't have to go shopping around for
obscure brand names either.

There is software you can use that will read the disk info and tell you
who the real manufacturer is. That's how I found out that one brand I
had bought once was actually counterfeit disks. I think it was Mitsumi
branded disks and they told me they stopped selling disks under their
brand name years ago. They couldn't be arsed to do anything about the
counterfeiters though.
 
Michael said:
But Memorex just buys whatever discs they can get for a low bid and then
sticks their name on them so you never know what you're getting really.
Even if you go and use something like CD Identifier, you're not going to
find a good brand of disc under that labeling.
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Memorex has a reputation to uphold so they don't just use any shit
manufacturer. As I said, I have never had an issue with their "branded"
disks so will continue to buy them.
 
The LG burner in my PC has burned over 600 DVDs. OTOH, the burner in
my DVDR burned about 50 before it started making coasters.

FWIW, I always burn at the slowest possible speed.
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Thought a lot of LG burners when I got my first - which has safe/
secure data feature that works with a special edition of Nero. Guess
it would be maybe six months or more when I bought it. Anyway, went
back to NEWEGG and got another unit about a month ago. Thought it
funny then LG wasn't the presence it was when I bought the first - but
nonetheless found a LG unit and bought it. (Funnier yet, since then
NEWEGG stops carrying LG brand DVD burners - they're gone, out of
stock, last I looked).

Problems. Very convoluted problems, I don't want to even get into,
which I thought possible controller issues and picking up nearly
identical LG models. Wrong. Today it was frozen up, and subsequent
suspect long boot delays ID-ing DVDs, only this time I happened to
notice the 3.3 CPU rail in the BIOS in red and under 3V. So I take
out that last LG unit and up goes to the 3.3 CPU voltage, back to
normal. Nasty stuff.

Been one hell of weird problem with that particular LG, and "just may"
have nailed it with any luck (hope my PS wasn't mangled and mauled
during the stint). It's out and shelved. Caught the last of LG's
problem batch (if not an isolated instance). The first LG is a keeper
and still in and running. No more LGs for me.
 
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