How do I tell if a 9800Pro has R360 core?

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Just bought a 9800Pro 128 MB via ATi's stupid trade-up program. The card is
a late-model, judging by the fact that the manual includes installation
instructions for the X800. The heat sink uses black (as opposed to gold)
push-pins and the memory is Hynix F-28.

Is there a way to know if the card's got the R360 core? RivaTuner's report
says "R350", but I don't know how accurate it is.
 
First of One said:
Just bought a 9800Pro 128 MB via ATi's stupid trade-up program. The card is
a late-model, judging by the fact that the manual includes installation
instructions for the X800. The heat sink uses black (as opposed to gold)
push-pins and the memory is Hynix F-28.

Is there a way to know if the card's got the R360 core? RivaTuner's report
says "R350", but I don't know how accurate it is.
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You can download Everest Home edition for free and it will tell you.

Mike
 
First of One said:
I wonder how accurate the info is, though. Do you have a 9800Pro with a R360
core?
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No, I own a 9600 pro with the RV350 core, but I am under the impression that
this program is accurate in showing the right core.

Mike
 
No, I own a 9600 pro with the RV350 core, but I am under the impression that
this program is accurate in showing the right core.

Mike
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Are 9800pro suppos to be r360 ???

aida32 report that my 9800pro is 350...
 
ATi switched to the R360 core some time during the 9800Pro's production run,
to reduce costs by sharing a common core with the 9800XT. Of course, there
are no functional differences save for dubious Overdrive support, though the
R360 is *supposed* to overclock better.
 
I just wonder if the core name is read from the card, or simply correlated
from its internal database. i.e. upon reading that the card is a 9800 Pro,
it may automatically display R350 without verification.
 
First said:
Just bought a 9800Pro 128 MB via ATi's stupid trade-up program. The card is
a late-model, judging by the fact that the manual includes installation
instructions for the X800. The heat sink uses black (as opposed to gold)
push-pins and the memory is Hynix F-28.

Is there a way to know if the card's got the R360 core? RivaTuner's report
says "R350", but I don't know how accurate it is.
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I think it gets it's info from the video BIOS or possibly drivers. I got
a 9800Pro on Monday and Rivatuner picks it up as an R350-cored card. A
friend pointed a thread out to me on the overclockers.co.uk forums about
flashing an R360-cored 9800Pro to a 9800XT (I'll dig out a link if
wanted, but can't be bothered at the moment) along with his screenshot.
I flashed it for a while (put it back to original while I tried to sort
out other problems, it was randomly locking whatever it was set to but
it stopped doing it just as randomly..) and I'm almost certain Rivatuner
picked it up as an R360.

The way to check for certain, of course, would be to take off the
heatsink and see which it says. I'd expect almost all being sold now to
be an R360, though.
 
I agree. Seems most new boxed original ATI Radeon9800 Pro's I have
installed, including 2 of my own (one hynix and one samsung memory chips),
have been 360 cores. And I never really noticed, but when did they start
using a silver paste under the stock heatsink? 2 of my more recent ones,
were stock, silver paste, not white silicon.
 
I have flashed 2 "360" core'd 9800 Pros to a 9800 XT (original ATI made),
and neither would allow "Overdrive" in the Cat's 4.4
 
That's probably a silvery-colored paste with no significant silver content.
<g>

Silver is too streaky and can cause shorts if it gets on a resistor or
something.
 
I just wonder if the core name is read from the card, or simply correlated
from its internal database. i.e. upon reading that the card is a 9800 Pro,
it may automatically display R350 without verification.
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Yeah, I've recently tried pcwizard2004 and sandra2004.

Wizard id'd my amd64-2800 as newcastle.

sandra called it a clawhammer ;)

I think it's supposed to be a newcastle, but I really don't know.

hmm.. thanks to digital photography..

ADA2800AEP4AP
CAAJC 0404XPMW
9814857B40050 Malaysia

I'll look it up one of these days, but maybe someone knows these
things.
 
Michael B said:
"First of One" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht

No, I own a 9600 pro with the RV350 core, but I am under the impression
that this program is accurate in showing the right core.

Mike
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I do have a 9800Pro with an R360 core and I'm
very much of the opinion that Everest gets it
wrong since my version tells me I have an R350
core. I believe Everest just relays whatever the
card BIOS tells it. The 9800 Pro BIOS is
programmed to say "R350" in an effort to prevent
people from replacing it with a 9800XT BIOS. (You
can do it anyway, but you have to try
(infinitesimally) harder).

Neil
 
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I do have a 9800Pro with an R360 core and I'm
very much of the opinion that Everest gets it
wrong since my version tells me I have an R350
core. I believe Everest just relays whatever the
card BIOS tells it. The 9800 Pro BIOS is
programmed to say "R350" in an effort to prevent
people from replacing it with a 9800XT BIOS. (You
can do it anyway, but you have to try
(infinitesimally) harder).

Neil
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But I just noticed something else. If you ask
Everest for a quick report (on any aspect) the
second part of the report is just tables of memory
contents. The last table is vaguely interesting
as it is the video BIOS. In the first part of
that table in my report, there are some vaguely
readable parts, and in those R360 is mentioned
twice. My guess would be that if I didn't have
the R360 core - that would say R350.

Neil
 
Mine says "R350 Hynix DDR BIOS", but I guess it must have that to use the
Hynix F-28 memory on the card. "R350AGP" is mentioned on the next line.

Damn, all this trouble just to avoid taking the heat sink off... :-)
 
Damn, all this trouble just to avoid taking the heat sink off... :-)
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Indeed!
so why not end your suffering and pop off the heatsink (it's real easy with
a pair of good Needle-Nose-Pliers). . .clean off the white goo. . . .and
look at your shiny GPU core, and while your at it you may as well put it
back together again using some arctic-silver compound an ARCTIC VGA
Silencer!
 
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