How connect 2 laptops via WiFi and ICS thru Wireless USB modem??

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Hi, maybe I'm stupid or just weird.
I have 2 Dell Laptops with built-in WiFi. The one is connected to Telecom
Mobile Broadband via a USB modem. It works fine. The 2 laptops can share
files neatly. But I cannot get the client to access internet. The Host is set
to ICS on the WiFi link.
Any ideas or is it impossible without a router?.
 
Hi, maybe I'm stupid or just weird.
I have 2 Dell Laptops with built-in WiFi. The one is connected to Telecom
Mobile Broadband via a USB modem. It works fine. The 2 laptops can share
files neatly. But I cannot get the client to access internet. The Host is set
to ICS on the WiFi link.
Any ideas or is it impossible without a router?.

Yes, it's possible. On the host computer, share the USB modem
connection, and tell it to use the WiFi connection for the home
network. From your description, I think that you've configured the
host to share the wrong connection.

Then, check the TCP/IP configuration on the client's WiFi connection.
It should show:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server
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Hi Steve, many thanks for your quick response.
I may need more info. I did as you said but still no go.
I cannot ping the machines - just gives timeout. Should the ip's be static
or not?
I currently changed it to 192.168.0.1 for the host and .2 for the client
with a gateway of 192.168.0.1 on the wifi connection.
Should I be able to ping the host and vice versa?
Do I need a static DNS server on the host?
Kind regards.
 
Steve, I managed to get the 2 laptops to ping each other. From the client I
can see a connection to the internet gateway and internet. When opening IE7
it still does not connect. On the diagnosis it shows: "FTP (passive)
Successfully connected to FTP.microsoft.com" But I get error: 12002 (the
operation timed out) - on the HTTP and HTTPS connections. I can even alter
the internet connection services from the client. Which client services
should be ticked and what should the settings be?
Thanks for your help!
 
Hi Steve, many thanks for your quick response.
I may need more info. I did as you said but still no go.
I cannot ping the machines - just gives timeout. Should the ip's be static
or not?
I currently changed it to 192.168.0.1 for the host and .2 for the client
with a gateway of 192.168.0.1 on the wifi connection.
Should I be able to ping the host and vice versa?
Do I need a static DNS server on the host?
Kind regards.

You're welcome.

Don't make any maual TCP/IP settings on either computer. Let Windows
make those settings automatically.
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Steve, I managed to get the 2 laptops to ping each other. From the client I
can see a connection to the internet gateway and internet. When opening IE7
it still does not connect. On the diagnosis it shows: "FTP (passive)
Successfully connected to FTP.microsoft.com" But I get error: 12002 (the
operation timed out) - on the HTTP and HTTPS connections. I can even alter
the internet connection services from the client. Which client services
should be ticked and what should the settings be?
Thanks for your help!

I'm sorry, but I don't know what you mean by "internet connection
services" and "client services". Where do you see them?

Do the HTTP and HTTPS connections that fail on the client work
successfully on the host? If so, the problem could involve the MTU
setting on the client. Here's a possible fix:

1. Find the right MTU setting on the client, as shown here:

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article04-107

2. Make the setting manually on the client , or useDrTCP to make it:

http://www.dslreports.com/front/drtcp.html
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Hi, when you click on properties of the Host Internet connection and go to
the window where you switch the ICS on, there is a "settings" box (lower one)
you can click. It gives you "Services" to choose. No services are ticked. Is
that OK?

Anyway, I did exactly as described on the website link and double checked ot
with DrTCP. I found the highest MTU that worked was 1472.
I restarted the client but still only get the FTP to work. HTTP + HTTPS
still give timeouts. Any other ideas?
Highly appreciated!
 
I removed all the static IPs. Ping still works fine. File sharing works fine.
FTP, HTTP and HTTPS don't work. On IPCONFIG on the client Wireless Network
connection it doesn't show an address for the Gateway. Internet works
perfectly on the host. When I plug the USB modem directly into the client,
Internet works perfectly. Any more ideas?
Kind regards.
 
Hi, when you click on properties of the Host Internet connection and go to
the window where you switch the ICS on, there is a "settings" box (lower one)
you can click. It gives you "Services" to choose. No services are ticked. Is
that OK?

Thanks for the explanation. I don't think that you need to make any
settings for the services. That's only required if you run a server
(web, FTP, Remote Desktop, etc) on the client and want to connect to
that server from computers on the Internet.
Anyway, I did exactly as described on the website link and double checked ot
with DrTCP. I found the highest MTU that worked was 1472.
I restarted the client but still only get the FTP to work. HTTP + HTTPS
still give timeouts. Any other ideas?
Highly appreciated!

On the client, go to Internet Explorer > Tools > Internet Options >
Connections > LAN Settings, and un-check all of the boxes.
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I removed all the static IPs. Ping still works fine. File sharing works fine.
FTP, HTTP and HTTPS don't work. On IPCONFIG on the client Wireless Network
connection it doesn't show an address for the Gateway. Internet works
perfectly on the host. When I plug the USB modem directly into the client,
Internet works perfectly. Any more ideas?
Kind regards.

The client needs a Default Gateway setting. Are its other settings
right? They should be:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server

The host's wireless connection should have:

IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

If either computer doesn't have those settings, ICS isn't set up
properly. In that case, un-share and then re-share the host's
Internet connection.

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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Steve Winograd said:
The client needs a Default Gateway setting. Are its other settings
right? They should be:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server

The host's wireless connection should have:

IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

If either computer doesn't have those settings, ICS isn't set up
properly. In that case, un-share and then re-share the host's
Internet connection.

--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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I unshared and reshared the host internet connection. On the client
IPconfig I get a connection-specific DNS suffix: MShome.net IP and subnet
and gateway is correct. Host wireless connection IP and subnet is also
correct. Where do I see the DNS server? FTP is still working. Http and
Https are still dead. Kind regards.
 
[snip]
The client needs a Default Gateway setting. Are its other settings
right? They should be:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server

The host's wireless connection should have:

IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

If either computer doesn't have those settings, ICS isn't set up
properly. In that case, un-share and then re-share the host's
Internet connection.

I unshared and reshared the host internet connection. On the client
IPconfig I get a connection-specific DNS suffix: MShome.net IP and subnet
and gateway is correct. Host wireless connection IP and subnet is also
correct. Where do I see the DNS server? FTP is still working. Http and
Https are still dead. Kind regards.

Configure the client's wireless connection to obtain an IP address and
DNS address automatically. The host will provide them.

To see the client's DNS server address, run "ipconfig" in a command
prompt window (Start > Run > cmd), or right-click the network
connection and click Status > Support > Details.

Open a command prompt window on the client, enter this command, then
reboot and try HTTP/HTTPS again:

netsh winsock reset

If that doesn't fix the problem, run these commands on the client.
Each one should get four replies:

ping 192.168.0.1
ping 72.14.207.99
ping google.com

If those commands succeed, enter these addresses in your web browser.
They should both take you to the Google web page:

http://72.14.207.99
http://google.com

If HTTP/HTTPS still fails, start the computer in "Safe mode with
networking" and try it again. If it works in Safe mode, a program
that runs on startup is causing the problem. Look for a firewall or
other network-related program.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Steve Winograd said:
[snip]
The client needs a Default Gateway setting. Are its other settings
right? They should be:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server

The host's wireless connection should have:

IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

If either computer doesn't have those settings, ICS isn't set up
properly. In that case, un-share and then re-share the host's
Internet connection.

I unshared and reshared the host internet connection. On the client
IPconfig I get a connection-specific DNS suffix: MShome.net IP and subnet
and gateway is correct. Host wireless connection IP and subnet is also
correct. Where do I see the DNS server? FTP is still working. Http and
Https are still dead. Kind regards.

Configure the client's wireless connection to obtain an IP address and
DNS address automatically. The host will provide them.

To see the client's DNS server address, run "ipconfig" in a command
prompt window (Start > Run > cmd), or right-click the network
connection and click Status > Support > Details.

Open a command prompt window on the client, enter this command, then
reboot and try HTTP/HTTPS again:

netsh winsock reset

If that doesn't fix the problem, run these commands on the client.
Each one should get four replies:

ping 192.168.0.1
ping 72.14.207.99
ping google.com

If those commands succeed, enter these addresses in your web browser.
They should both take you to the Google web page:

http://72.14.207.99
http://google.com

If HTTP/HTTPS still fails, start the computer in "Safe mode with
networking" and try it again. If it works in Safe mode, a program
that runs on startup is causing the problem. Look for a firewall or
other network-related program.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Hi, I did the Winsock reset - no change,
Only "ping 192.168.0.1" works.
In safe mode, no change.
Firewalls are switched off on Host Internet and Wifi and Client Wifi.
I just pray you don't run out of suggestions. Thanks for your effort!
Regards.
 
[snip]
The client needs a Default Gateway setting. Are its other settings
right? They should be:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server

The host's wireless connection should have:

IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

If either computer doesn't have those settings, ICS isn't set up
properly. In that case, un-share and then re-share the host's
Internet connection.

I unshared and reshared the host internet connection. On the client
IPconfig I get a connection-specific DNS suffix: MShome.net IP and subnet
and gateway is correct. Host wireless connection IP and subnet is also
correct. Where do I see the DNS server? FTP is still working. Http and
Https are still dead. Kind regards.

Configure the client's wireless connection to obtain an IP address and
DNS address automatically. The host will provide them.

To see the client's DNS server address, run "ipconfig" in a command
prompt window (Start > Run > cmd), or right-click the network
connection and click Status > Support > Details.

Open a command prompt window on the client, enter this command, then
reboot and try HTTP/HTTPS again:

netsh winsock reset

If that doesn't fix the problem, run these commands on the client.
Each one should get four replies:

ping 192.168.0.1
ping 72.14.207.99
ping google.com

If those commands succeed, enter these addresses in your web browser.
They should both take you to the Google web page:

http://72.14.207.99
http://google.com

If HTTP/HTTPS still fails, start the computer in "Safe mode with
networking" and try it again. If it works in Safe mode, a program
that runs on startup is causing the problem. Look for a firewall or
other network-related program.

Hi, I did the Winsock reset - no change,
Only "ping 192.168.0.1" works.
In safe mode, no change.
Firewalls are switched off on Host Internet and Wifi and Client Wifi.
I just pray you don't run out of suggestions. Thanks for your effort!
Regards.

You're welcome. I'm sorry to say that we've covered everything I can
think of, assuming that:

1. You've enabled Internet Connection Sharing on the correct network
connection on the host computer.

2. The TCP/IP properties are correct on the host's wireless
connection:

IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0

3. The TCP/IP properties are correct on the client's wireless
connecction:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1

4. You configured the correct MTU value on the client.

Does your broadband modem have an Ethernet output? If so, I strongly
recommend connecting the modem to a wireless router, instead of using
ICS, to share the Internet connection.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
Steve Winograd said:
[snip]
The client needs a Default Gateway setting. Are its other settings
right? They should be:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server

The host's wireless connection should have:

IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

If either computer doesn't have those settings, ICS isn't set up
properly. In that case, un-share and then re-share the host's
Internet connection.

I unshared and reshared the host internet connection. On the client
IPconfig I get a connection-specific DNS suffix: MShome.net IP and subnet
and gateway is correct. Host wireless connection IP and subnet is also
correct. Where do I see the DNS server? FTP is still working. Http and
Https are still dead. Kind regards.

Configure the client's wireless connection to obtain an IP address and
DNS address automatically. The host will provide them.

To see the client's DNS server address, run "ipconfig" in a command
prompt window (Start > Run > cmd), or right-click the network
connection and click Status > Support > Details.

Open a command prompt window on the client, enter this command, then
reboot and try HTTP/HTTPS again:

netsh winsock reset

If that doesn't fix the problem, run these commands on the client.
Each one should get four replies:

ping 192.168.0.1
ping 72.14.207.99
ping google.com

If those commands succeed, enter these addresses in your web browser.
They should both take you to the Google web page:

http://72.14.207.99
http://google.com

If HTTP/HTTPS still fails, start the computer in "Safe mode with
networking" and try it again. If it works in Safe mode, a program
that runs on startup is causing the problem. Look for a firewall or
other network-related program.

Hi, I did the Winsock reset - no change,
Only "ping 192.168.0.1" works.
In safe mode, no change.
Firewalls are switched off on Host Internet and Wifi and Client Wifi.
I just pray you don't run out of suggestions. Thanks for your effort!
Regards.

You're welcome. I'm sorry to say that we've covered everything I can
think of, assuming that:

1. You've enabled Internet Connection Sharing on the correct network
connection on the host computer.

2. The TCP/IP properties are correct on the host's wireless
connection:

IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0

3. The TCP/IP properties are correct on the client's wireless
connecction:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1

4. You configured the correct MTU value on the client.

Does your broadband modem have an Ethernet output? If so, I strongly
recommend connecting the modem to a wireless router, instead of using
ICS, to share the Internet connection.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
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Thanks Steve,
but what about a proxy? Can't that maybe do it?
If you follow this link, you can see my modem - plain USB mobile (wireless)
only. http://www.sierrawireless.com/product/ac595U.aspx
What now? Please anybody help!!
Regards.
 
[snip]
Does your broadband modem have an Ethernet output? If so, I strongly
recommend connecting the modem to a wireless router, instead of using
ICS, to share the Internet connection.

Thanks Steve,
but what about a proxy? Can't that maybe do it?
If you follow this link, you can see my modem - plain USB mobile (wireless)
only. http://www.sierrawireless.com/product/ac595U.aspx
What now? Please anybody help!!
Regards.

I hadn't thought about using a proxy server. Here's one that might do
the job:

AnalogX Proxy
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/proxy.htm
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Steve Winograd said:
[snip]
Does your broadband modem have an Ethernet output? If so, I strongly
recommend connecting the modem to a wireless router, instead of using
ICS, to share the Internet connection.

Thanks Steve,
but what about a proxy? Can't that maybe do it?
If you follow this link, you can see my modem - plain USB mobile (wireless)
only. http://www.sierrawireless.com/product/ac595U.aspx
What now? Please anybody help!!
Regards.

I hadn't thought about using a proxy server. Here's one that might do
the job:

AnalogX Proxy
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/proxy.htm
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Hi, why am I developing a strange suspicion that due to the way USB port
traffic works, it cannot be shared?
I'm played around with Network Bridges but still no change.
Can you tell me what a 1394 Net Adapter is?
Kind regards.
 
[snip]
Does your broadband modem have an Ethernet output? If so, I strongly
recommend connecting the modem to a wireless router, instead of using
ICS, to share the Internet connection.

Thanks Steve,
but what about a proxy? Can't that maybe do it?
If you follow this link, you can see my modem - plain USB mobile (wireless)
only. http://www.sierrawireless.com/product/ac595U.aspx
What now? Please anybody help!!
Regards.

I hadn't thought about using a proxy server. Here's one that might do
the job:

AnalogX Proxy
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/proxy.htm

Hi, why am I developing a strange suspicion that due to the way USB port
traffic works, it cannot be shared?
I'm played around with Network Bridges but still no change.
Can you tell me what a 1394 Net Adapter is?
Kind regards.

If your USB modem creates a connection in the Network Connections
folder, it should be possible to share it. What are all of the
connections that appear in your Network Connections folder?

The Network Bridge can't do Internet Connection Sharing. If you've
created a Network Bridge, delete it. I've written an article about
what it does:

XP ICS - Network Bridge
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/networkbridge.htm

Your computer has an IEEE 1394 (FireWire) port, which can be used to
connect a digital camera, external disk drive, etc.

It's also possible to network computers to each other through their
IEEE 1394 ports. Since you're not doing that, ignore the IEEE 1394
Net Adapter.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Steve Winograd said:
[snip]
Does your broadband modem have an Ethernet output? If so, I strongly
recommend connecting the modem to a wireless router, instead of using
ICS, to share the Internet connection.

Thanks Steve,
but what about a proxy? Can't that maybe do it?
If you follow this link, you can see my modem - plain USB mobile (wireless)
only. http://www.sierrawireless.com/product/ac595U.aspx
What now? Please anybody help!!
Regards.

I hadn't thought about using a proxy server. Here's one that might do
the job:

AnalogX Proxy
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/proxy.htm

Hi, why am I developing a strange suspicion that due to the way USB port
traffic works, it cannot be shared?
I'm played around with Network Bridges but still no change.
Can you tell me what a 1394 Net Adapter is?
Kind regards.

If your USB modem creates a connection in the Network Connections
folder, it should be possible to share it. What are all of the
connections that appear in your Network Connections folder?

The Network Bridge can't do Internet Connection Sharing. If you've
created a Network Bridge, delete it. I've written an article about
what it does:

XP ICS - Network Bridge
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/networkbridge.htm

Your computer has an IEEE 1394 (FireWire) port, which can be used to
connect a digital camera, external disk drive, etc.

It's also possible to network computers to each other through their
IEEE 1394 ports. Since you're not doing that, ignore the IEEE 1394
Net Adapter.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
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Hi,
The "Lan or High-Speed Internet" under "Network Connections" on the client:
1394 NetAdapter
Bluetooth Personal Area Network
Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller
Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
Sierra AC595U 1xEV-DO Network Adapter

On the Host:
1394NetAdapter
Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller
Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection

Under "Dial-up" on Host:
Telecom 3G.
 
Hi,
The "Lan or High-Speed Internet" under "Network Connections" on the client:
1394 NetAdapter
Bluetooth Personal Area Network
Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller
Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
Sierra AC595U 1xEV-DO Network Adapter

On the Host:
1394NetAdapter
Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller
Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection

Under "Dial-up" on Host:
Telecom 3G.

Thanks for that information. Enable Internet Connection Sharing on
the host's "Telecom 3G" connection. If there's a box where you can
choose the home networking connection, choose the "Intel Wireless"
connection.

If that's what you've already done, I don't know why Internet access
on the client doesn't work right.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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