Hotmail messages no longer download in OE Help/Suggestions?

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I deleted the Hotmail account then re-added it. This apparently cleared up
the triplicated server address since the error message changed to:
Unable to poll for new messages on your HTTP server. Account: 'Hotmail',
Server: 'http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp', Protocol:
HTTPMail, Server Response: '', Port: 0, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 12029,
Error Number: 0x800CCC0E

But, as the error msg indicates I still can't connect to an account I've
used successfully for several years. Suggestions please?
 
BobrGR said:
Worked fine till 2 days ago. No get error msg: Unable to poll for new
messages on your HTTP server. Account: 'Hotmail', Server:
'http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmai...://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp',
Protocol: HTTPMail, Server Response: '', Port: 0, Secure(SSL): No,
Socket
Error: 12029, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
Suggestions please?
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Do you have a free or paid Hotmail account? On Nov 2004, Microsoft
changed their policy so that free accounts would longer have WebDAV
access (the scripting language used to communicate to their mail host).
If you opened a free account after that date, you couldn't use WebDAV
(in Outlook [Express]) and were forced to use their webmail interface.
If you had an existing account created before that date, your account
got grandfathered in - but that was a courtesy from Microsoft. In fact,
as I recall, old accounts also got WebDAV access blocked but it was
restored in a week. However, Microsoft appears to be now killing off
the grandfathered freebie accounts, too. I had a grandfathered account
but now when trying to access it using Outlook Express, I get:

________________________________________

Could not connect to Hotmail as (e-mail address removed).

Hotmail no longer allows email access via Outlook Express for free
email accounts.

Please visit http://www.hotmail.com/oe to learn more.

Account: 'Hotmail (lee_hodsdon)', Server:
'http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp', Protocol: HTTPMail,
Server Response: 'Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now
requires a subscription. Please sign up at
http://join.msn.com/general/Email', Port: 0, Secure(SSL): No, Error
Number: 0x800CCCF6
________________________________________

Microsoft has become enamored with their new beta Outlook-like webmail
"Live!" interface but which still rides atop the old Hotmail service.
They gave it a prettier face but it is still lacking many features
available within an e-mail program, like Outlook [Express]. For
example, you are still stuck with the old rules set for Hotmail which is
nearly worthless for filtering mails or organizing them. I've heard
rumors that they would dropping the insecure WebDAV access method
altogether. Looks like they are starting by killing off the
grandfathered accounts.

Oh well, I already moved to a freebie Yahoo Mail account and use
YahooPOPs to access it from Outlook. I've so far kept the Hotmail
account alive because my grandfathered account still provided for WebDAV
access from Outlook or Outlook Express. Now that such access is denied,
and since I definitely won't bother with subscribing (at cost) to a
Hotmail account, it'll languish and die. I moved to Yahoo Mail around 4
years ago and never came back to using Hotmail (and won't now just
because they stuck a pretty UI on it) other than keeping it around for
some Passport sites that demand a Hotmail account (but you can also
create a Passport account for non-Hotmail accounts, too).

Time to update my e-mail accounts to dump the Hotmail account.
 
<LOL>
BobrGR said:
Worked fine till 2 days ago. No get error msg: Unable to poll for new
messages on your HTTP server. Account: 'Hotmail', Server:
'http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmai...://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp',
Protocol: HTTPMail, Server Response: '', Port: 0, Secure(SSL): No,
Socket
Error: 12029, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
Suggestions please?
Click to expand...


Do you have a free or paid Hotmail account? On Nov 2004, Microsoft
changed their policy so that free accounts would longer have WebDAV
access (the scripting language used to communicate to their mail host).
If you opened a free account after that date, you couldn't use WebDAV
(in Outlook [Express]) and were forced to use their webmail interface.
If you had an existing account created before that date, your account
got grandfathered in - but that was a courtesy from Microsoft. In fact,
as I recall, old accounts also got WebDAV access blocked but it was
restored in a week. However, Microsoft appears to be now killing off
the grandfathered freebie accounts, too. I had a grandfathered account
but now when trying to access it using Outlook Express, I get:

________________________________________

Could not connect to Hotmail as (e-mail address removed).

Hotmail no longer allows email access via Outlook Express for free
email accounts.

Please visit http://www.hotmail.com/oe to learn more.

Account: 'Hotmail (lee_hodsdon)', Server:
'http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp', Protocol: HTTPMail,
Server Response: 'Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now
requires a subscription. Please sign up at
http://join.msn.com/general/Email', Port: 0, Secure(SSL): No, Error
Number: 0x800CCCF6
________________________________________

Microsoft has become enamored with their new beta Outlook-like webmail
"Live!" interface but which still rides atop the old Hotmail service.
They gave it a prettier face but it is still lacking many features
available within an e-mail program, like Outlook [Express]. For
example, you are still stuck with the old rules set for Hotmail which is
nearly worthless for filtering mails or organizing them. I've heard
rumors that they would dropping the insecure WebDAV access method
altogether. Looks like they are starting by killing off the
grandfathered accounts.

Oh well, I already moved to a freebie Yahoo Mail account and use
YahooPOPs to access it from Outlook. I've so far kept the Hotmail
account alive because my grandfathered account still provided for WebDAV
access from Outlook or Outlook Express. Now that such access is denied,
and since I definitely won't bother with subscribing (at cost) to a
Hotmail account, it'll languish and die. I moved to Yahoo Mail around 4
years ago and never came back to using Hotmail (and won't now just
because they stuck a pretty UI on it) other than keeping it around for
some Passport sites that demand a Hotmail account (but you can also
create a Passport account for non-Hotmail accounts, too).

Time to update my e-mail accounts to dump the Hotmail account.
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I solved the problem: I occasionally use Ad/Subtract [an ad blocker] which
switches to Proxy server...the Hotmail access didn't like that and was not
available when I didn't have Ad/subtract loaded.. by opening Ad/Subtract, I
enabled the proxy connection and access to hotmail worked. I can probably
change my proxy server connection and acheive the same result without having
to use ad-subtract.

Thanks for inputs/suggestions
bobR
 
PA Bear said:
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My error. I had configured the account to connect to my new Hotmail
account instead of my old grandfathered one. I have accounts named
(e-mail address removed) (the grandfathered one) and
(e-mail address removed) (the new one). The new freebie one doesn't get
WebDAV access and that was the one I entered in the account definition
(because I use that format at my other e-mail providers). I used the
one with the period character instead of the underscore (Hotmail added
the period character as a valid character sometime in the last year and
way after the cutoff for freebie accounts having WebDAV access). So my
grandfathered account still works - unless and until the rumors turn out
to be true that Microsoft will be dumping WebDAV.
 
Vanguard wrote:
...So my
grandfathered account still works - unless and until the rumors turn out
to be true that Microsoft will be dumping WebDAV.
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Visit Private MVP OE newsgroup for a discussion on this. <w>
 
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