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benoit

Hello,
msas detect a spyware, set it in quarantine but don't
erase it because when i signon the day after the message
from msas appear again

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benoit
 
Hello Benoit;

I like to add to Plun;s sugestion;

If you are running SP2, open IE--->Tools--->Manage Add-
ons, and uncheck any BHO's that you don't recognize.

Good luck

Engel
 
Good advice in both replies. Be sure to note the part in plun's message
about restarting in safe mode and scanning--this is often helpful when
Microsoft Antispyware ID's a bug, says that it is cleaning it, but is
unsuccessful--as the alerts you are seeing make clear.
 
After serious thinking Bill Sanderson wrote :
Good advice in both replies. Be sure to note the part in plun's message
about restarting in safe mode and scanning--this is often helpful when
Microsoft Antispyware ID's a bug, says that it is cleaning it, but is
unsuccessful--as the alerts you are seeing make clear.
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Hi Bill

I would say that all advices IS important for "reclamining a
PC to it´s owner", hopefully 100% clean.

No tracking cookies, no spyware, no temporarily junk and
index.dat clean.

I give nothing for MS/MSNs intention about this, PCs should be totally
cleaned out, and thats about respect to ALL users. Not only to some
users with knowledge about this.
 
I have never yet bothered to delete index.dat unless I happened to have the
machine started in a mode that allowed this.

I do have some sympathy with the issue of deleting TIF and TEMP files. I've
a neighbor with a couple of machines in a home office. Said machines are
also used by "the kids" in the evening--each machine ends up with 4 or 5
profiles on it and scads of TEMP and TIF files.

And when they run out of space for getting the real work done (autocad
work--Landscape Architects)--they presently get me to come over and go
through the profiles deleting stuff. This ought to be easier.

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Hi Bill

You are a real diplomat ;)

This is about respect and to give ALL users knowledge about this.

- Index.dat, a hidden file which stores every visit site !

- Tracking cookies, it up to every thinking user to deside about !

- Temporarily junkyard, a hidden jungle for most users !

I tested Windows Vista a month ago and it was also no fun anymore.

"Greedy directors", "security chip", "crazy Ballmer", "Claria",
"legitcheck", "IE7-commercial controlled", not best solution for a
user, "Kill Google".

Maybe MS is totally rotten nowadays, they building a new greedy image.

And the securitychip in the name of user security is totally
rotten and maybe the Bush administration cannot see this but I really
hope that all other for competition can see through this catastroph.

I will never touch Vista again until this is clear.

Time for something new, testing Ubunty, clean and friendly.

http://www.ubuntu.com/

Live CD

http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-September/000031.html
 
http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-September/000031.html

What do you think of this?

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-50014.html

Bob Vanderveen
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Hi Bob

Great, an open discussion about how to create a working firewall,
without any commercial wishes ie "talk to mum".

How to keep it simple, working and safe.

The Linux community is really interesting nowadays and MS greedy image
can do nothing to stop this I believe.

They can present numerous beutiful pictures about Vista as they want
but
users/buyers all over the world are now really looking at other
alternatives.

And the first step must be to scrap the security chip and be a user
friendly company again.

IMHO
 
I don't see Microsoft as pushing the security chip. They were very quick to
turn off the CPU serial number when that became an issue. I know that I've
seen a statement somewhere about Vista features related to the security
chip, but I don't have a reference and so I'm not sure it is a public
statement. Ok--here's a reference:

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/securi...o_Vista_security/0,2000061744,39209326,00.htm

This neither looks scary nor intrusive to me.
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Well ;)

No meaning to discuss this but if you visit Vistas homepage all
information about TPM is removed.

Google links to Vista is no longer valid.

Found this and it raises a lot of questions about TPM
http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/D/6/5D6EAF2B-7DDF-476B-93DC-7CF0072878E6/TPM.doc

I really hope that our antitrust regulators carefully examine this and
this so called open platform !

Is there any consumer organisations involved ? Or only big industry
and they are indeed smart ;)

https://www.trustedcomputinggroup.org/about/members/members

For me this is scary and George Orwell scenarios.

Maybe it´s better to plant a chip within all humans directly ?

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plun



Bill Sanderson expressed precisely :
 
I haven't looked at your links yet.

Microsoft serves everybody in the world, from the government of China to the
most paranoid American citizen.

I'm sure there is a demand, from financial institutions, for example for the
kind of accountability and safety involved in having such a chip embedded in
the system.

I don't think Microsoft is planning to force the rest of us to use it if we
don't want to.

--
 
Hi Bill

This is not about paranioa, it´s about facts.

Hopefully MS can explain this exactly for the DOJ and EU comission
for competition so we maintain a free market for PCs and software.

IS it ONLY and well defined about user security, that´s fine and good,
then I can accept it.

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plun


Bill Sanderson explained :
I haven't looked at your links yet.

Microsoft serves everybody in the world, from the government of China to the
most paranoid American citizen.

I'm sure there is a demand, from financial institutions, for example for the
kind of accountability and safety involved in having such a chip embedded in
the system.

I don't think Microsoft is planning to force the rest of us to use it if we
don't want to.

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plun wrote :
Hi Bill

This is not about paranioa, it´s about facts.
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To avoid an endless discussion, this is the facts I mean.

Is it about user security or !?!

Keywords:

- anti-competitive agreements between businesses

- businesses abusing their dominant market position

- standardisation agreements (e.g. if they prevent manufacturers from
developing other standards).

Source among many (this one explains it i a basic way):

http://www.out-law.com/page-5811

EOD for me !
 
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