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Hi Malke if you are there. This is an ongoing query from our last
communication when you helped me sort out file sharing between my home
network. You recommended and I quote " 1. Create matching user accounts and
passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account
on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be
different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all
machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one
particular user's account) for
convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP
and Vista:" I have done that on all of the laptops and main PC and called
them all the same "Guest" I haven't given them a password as it didn't ask
for one but unless you tell me that this is essential I at least have an open
user account of the same name on all of the PCs. However when I try to access
the networking from some of the laptops and from my Desk top to certain
laptops I get the message "\\charlie
(laptop name)\is not accesssible. You might not have permission to use this
network resourse. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you
have access permissions." What does this mean please Malke and what do I do
now? Does the fact that I wasn't asked to add a password mean that I haven't
set up a usuable account? Any advice /help would be very welcome. Thanks
 
Hi Malke if you are there. This is an ongoing query from our last
communication when you helped me sort out file sharing between my home
network. You recommended and I quote " 1. Create matching user accounts and
passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account
on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be
different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all
machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one
particular user's account) for
convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP
and Vista:" I have done that on all of the laptops and main PC and called
them all the same "Guest" I haven't given them a password as it didn't ask
for one but unless you tell me that this is essential I at least have an open
user account of the same name on all of the PCs. However when I try to access
the networking from some of the laptops and from my Desk top to certain
laptops I get the message "\\charlie
(laptop name)\is not accesssible. You might not have permission to use this
network resourse. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you
have access permissions." What does this mean please Malke and what do I do
now? Does the fact that I wasn't asked to add a password mean that I haven't
set up a usuable account? Any advice /help would be very welcome. Thanks
Click to expand...


Charlie,

The "Guest" account is a special account that's present on all computers, though
not always active, already. Proper security says that it should be disabled
except when absolutely required, as it provides unauthenticated access to all
network users. What you setup is an additional non-Guest account named "Guest".
You need to make sure that your non-Guest account is Activated for network
access, and that all shares are properly permissioned for "Guest".
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html

But my real advice would be for you to remove your "Guest" account, and prevent
confusion between it and the built-in "Guest" account. But DO NOT remove the
actual built-in "Guest" account please. Then, setup a real non-Guest account,
with a non-"Guest" name, activate it properly, and permission the shared
folders.
 
thanks for that Chuck. I thought that Guest account was too simple and I
didn't feel that I had done enough when I wasn't asked to provide a password.
I will start again with a proper account as Malke tried to advise me and see
how I get on. I will let you know. Thanks again.
Charlie
 
Chuck I have done that according to your instructions but still can't see the
other laptop. I have made an account on each machine called "shareaccount"
and ran the net user command on both machines and it told me that I was
successful on both machines and then I went to my network places and hoped to
see the laptop but coudn't. Have I got more to do or have I missed something?
I had left the passwords blank at this stage as it said I could but now I
have set the passwords the same using the control userpasswords2 command but
still no joy on the My network Places.
Ideas please. Thanks
 
Chuck I have done that according to your instructions but still can't see the
other laptop. I have made an account on each machine called "shareaccount"
and ran the net user command on both machines and it told me that I was
successful on both machines and then I went to my network places and hoped to
see the laptop but coudn't. Have I got more to do or have I missed something?
I had left the passwords blank at this stage as it said I could but now I
have set the passwords the same using the control userpasswords2 command but
still no joy on the My network Places.
Ideas please. Thanks
Click to expand...

Charlie,

If visibility is a problem, then your SMBs are being blocked. Look for a
personal firewall or other security device.
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html

A simple and very popular problem cause is the restrictanonymous setting.
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html

If no help yet, look at logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net
config server", and "net config workstation", from each computer, and diagnose
the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
precisely (download browstat!):
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
 
Hi Chuck
not making a great deal of progress. Most of what you say goes over my head
as a retired silver surfer but I am getting there. I have managed to get the
desk top to see one of the laptops and the same laptop can download from the
PC but the other two laptops...........one of them I can see on the PC but
when I try to access it I am told that I may have have permission to access.
This is different from a week ago when I could see and access both ways. I
have a laptop with Vista on it that refuses to be seen but can see the PC. I
am confused when telling the Norton Firewall trust of the identity of the
laptops. Am I telling it the Physical identity or the IP address? the IP
address for 2 of the laptops is the same in 192.168.2.3 is this right or
shall I use the physical identity in 00-11-50-28-59-B9? As for the browstat
status I copy what one of the laptops says below and you can see what I mean.
I cannot find what you mean about the net config workstation etc as I can see
no reference to it?

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Roger Toone>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : charlie
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Belkin

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Belkin
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Airgo Networks True MIMO (tm)
Wirele
ss Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-50-28-59-B9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 14 May 2008 19:08:57
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 14 May 2009 19:08:57

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Eth
ernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-08-0D-57-A4-5D

Thanks Chuck
Roger (charlie3110)

C:\Documents and Settings\Roger Toone>
 
Hi Chuck
not making a great deal of progress. Most of what you say goes over my head
as a retired silver surfer but I am getting there. I have managed to get the
desk top to see one of the laptops and the same laptop can download from the
PC but the other two laptops...........one of them I can see on the PC but
when I try to access it I am told that I may have have permission to access.
This is different from a week ago when I could see and access both ways. I
have a laptop with Vista on it that refuses to be seen but can see the PC. I
am confused when telling the Norton Firewall trust of the identity of the
laptops. Am I telling it the Physical identity or the IP address? the IP
address for 2 of the laptops is the same in 192.168.2.3 is this right or
shall I use the physical identity in 00-11-50-28-59-B9? As for the browstat
status I copy what one of the laptops says below and you can see what I mean.
I cannot find what you mean about the net config workstation etc as I can see
no reference to it?

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Roger Toone>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : charlie
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Belkin

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Belkin
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Airgo Networks True MIMO (tm)
Wirele
ss Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-50-28-59-B9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 14 May 2008 19:08:57
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 14 May 2009 19:08:57

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Eth
ernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-08-0D-57-A4-5D

Thanks Chuck
Roger (charlie3110)
Click to expand...

OK, Roger,

What I see above is one IPConfig log. We'll really need more than that.
"browstat status"
"ipconfig /all"
"net config server"
"net config workstation"
Each log, from each computer, please. Keep trying. Download browstat.exe.
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html
 
Hi Chuck
Please bear with me as I have no idea what I am doing. I have downloaded
Browstat and run it but it just shows the command prompt for a sec and then
disappears. I have run it using my workgroup name as suggested but then it
tells me browstat is not a recognised command. What do I do with that? Net
config server I had more luck with and this is what came up Microsoft Windows
XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\RCT>browstat status
'browstat' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\RCT>net config server
Server Name \\BRIAN
Server Comment New Computer

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{207CCF0E-FC23-49EA-94AC-825F27039DC1} (0030bdbab11d)


Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 5
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Then I put in net config workstation and got


Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\RCT>net config worksatation
The syntax of this command is:


NET CONFIG
[SERVER | WORKSTATION]


C:\Documents and Settings\RCT>net config workstation
Computer name \\BRIAN
Full Computer name Brian
User name RCT

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{207CCF0E-FC23-49EA-94AC-825F27039DC1} (0030BDBAB11D)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain MSHOME
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain BRIAN

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.


as you can see I am making progress and if you have the stomach to bear with
me then we will get there?
thanks so far and I will move on with the browstat when you explain where i
am going wrong?
Roj


Chuck said:
Hi Chuck
not making a great deal of progress. Most of what you say goes over my head
as a retired silver surfer but I am getting there. I have managed to get the
desk top to see one of the laptops and the same laptop can download from the
PC but the other two laptops...........one of them I can see on the PC but
when I try to access it I am told that I may have have permission to access.
This is different from a week ago when I could see and access both ways. I
have a laptop with Vista on it that refuses to be seen but can see the PC. I
am confused when telling the Norton Firewall trust of the identity of the
laptops. Am I telling it the Physical identity or the IP address? the IP
address for 2 of the laptops is the same in 192.168.2.3 is this right or
shall I use the physical identity in 00-11-50-28-59-B9? As for the browstat
status I copy what one of the laptops says below and you can see what I mean.
I cannot find what you mean about the net config workstation etc as I can see
no reference to it?

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Roger Toone>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : charlie
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Belkin

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Belkin
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Airgo Networks True MIMO (tm)
Wirele
ss Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-50-28-59-B9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 14 May 2008 19:08:57
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 14 May 2009 19:08:57

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Eth
ernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-08-0D-57-A4-5D

Thanks Chuck
Roger (charlie3110)
Click to expand...

OK, Roger,

What I see above is one IPConfig log. We'll really need more than that.
"browstat status"
"ipconfig /all"
"net config server"
"net config workstation"
Each log, from each computer, please. Keep trying. Download browstat.exe.
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html
Click to expand...
 
Hi Chuck
Please bear with me as I have no idea what I am doing. I have downloaded
Browstat and run it but it just shows the command prompt for a sec and then
disappears. I have run it using my workgroup name as suggested but then it
tells me browstat is not a recognised command. What do I do with that? Net
config server I had more luck with and this is what came up Microsoft Windows
XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\RCT>browstat status
'browstat' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
Click to expand...

Roger,

Read about the Path, please.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-path-and-making-custom-program.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-path-and-making-custom-program.html

And re read about command windows.
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/command-window.html>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/command-window.html
 
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