Home-built PC... opinions?

ghjghjghj · Oct 5, 2003

Nice box?...

Motherboard:
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4c800-e_d/overview.htm
or
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket754/k8v-d/overview.htm
or
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=130

CPU:
Intel Pentium 4 (3.2 Ghz) Extreme Edition
http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/processors/pentium4/
or
AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-51
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9488,00.html

Floppy drive:
http://www.teac.com/DSPD/3_5_Floppy_RetailKit.htm

Removable storage:
Zip 750MB drive
http://www.iomega.com/na/products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT<>prd_id=391607
Giga Vault™ Portable Hard Disc Media and USB Adaptor
http://www.sonystyle.com

Case:
http://www.aopen.com/products/housing/h700-series.htm

4 gb of DDR 400:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

Video card:
http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800pro/
or
http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=fx_5900

Hard drives:
Maxtor 250gb (serial ATA)
http://www.maxtor.com/en/products/ata/desktop/

Maxtor 300gb (old ata)
http://www.shareholder.com/maxtor/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=112098

Maxtor OneTouch 300gb
http://www.maxtor.com/en/products/external/onetouch/onetouch_combo/

Monitor:
Viewsonic 22" CRT (top of the line)
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/crt_p225fb.htm
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10328224
or
http://www.necmitsubishi.com/products/home/ProductDetail.cfm?product_id=230&division=NEC

DVD burner:
Plextor 8x
http://www.plextor.com/english/

CD-RW burner:
Plextor 52X CD-R, 32X CD-RW, 52X max CD-ROM
http://www.plextor.com/english/products/Premium.html
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051826239122&skuId=5434265&type=product

Printer/scanner/copier/fax:
HP psc 2510 photosmart all-in-one
HP color LaserJet
http://www.hp.com/united-states/consumer/gateway/printing_multifunction.html

HP scanner
http://www.hp.com/united-states/consumer/gateway/scanners_proj.html

Sound card:
Sound Blaster® Audigy® 2 ZS Platinum Pro
http://www.soundblaster.com/products/Audigy2ZS_platinum_pro/

Speakers:
Creative GigaWorks 7.1
http://www.americas.creative.com/promo/gigaworks/

Keyboard / Mouse:
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=013
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10333522

Wireless access point:
http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=538

Cable modem:
http://broadband.motorola.com/noflash/sb5100.html
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...80777&type=product&productCategoryId=cat01025
or
http://www.toshiba.com/taisnpd/products/pcx2600.html

Fax/Modem:
http://www.usr.com/products/home/home-product.asp?sku=USR5686E
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...93414&type=product&productCategoryId=cat01025

Network switch:
3Com® OfficeConnect® Gigabit Switch 5
http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/detail.jsp?tab=features&pathtype=purchase&sku=3C1670500

Webcam:
QuickCam® Cordless
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?p...ID=4&CONTENTID=6312&countryid=19&languageid=1

Ben Pope · Oct 5, 2003

ghjghjghj said:
Nice box?...

I'll make this quick, and only comment on the bits I agree with.

AMD AthlonT 64 FX-51
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9488,00.html

Yeah.

4 gb of DDR 400:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

Probably excessive, but it's your money!

Video card:
http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800pro/
Yup.

Speakers:
Creative GigaWorks 7.1
http://www.americas.creative.com/promo/gigaworks/

Consider Logitech.

Keyboard / Mouse:
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=013
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10333522

Very happy with my Logitech MX 700 mouse and Logitech Elite (Internet
Navigator).

Ben

Hank · Oct 6, 2003

ghjghjghj said:
Nice box?...

Motherboard:
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4c800-e_d/overview.htm
or
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket754/k8v-d/overview.htm
or
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=130

CPU:
Intel Pentium 4 (3.2 Ghz) Extreme Edition
http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/processors/pentium4/
or
AMD AthlonT 64 FX-51
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9488,00.html

Floppy drive:
http://www.teac.com/DSPD/3_5_Floppy_RetailKit.htm

Removable storage:
Zip 750MB drive
http://www.iomega.com/na/products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT<>prd_id=391607
Giga VaultT Portable Hard Disc Media and USB Adaptor
http://www.sonystyle.com

Case:
http://www.aopen.com/products/housing/h700-series.htm

4 gb of DDR 400:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

Video card:
http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800pro/
or
http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=fx_5900

Hard drives:
Maxtor 250gb (serial ATA)
http://www.maxtor.com/en/products/ata/desktop/

Maxtor 300gb (old ata)
http://www.shareholder.com/maxtor/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=112098

Maxtor OneTouch 300gb
http://www.maxtor.com/en/products/external/onetouch/onetouch_combo/

Monitor:
Viewsonic 22" CRT (top of the line)
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/crt_p225fb.htm
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10328224
or
http://www.necmitsubishi.com/products/home/ProductDetail.cfm?product_id=230&division=NEC

DVD burner:
Plextor 8x
http://www.plextor.com/english/

CD-RW burner:
Plextor 52X CD-R, 32X CD-RW, 52X max CD-ROM
http://www.plextor.com/english/products/Premium.html
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051826239122&skuId=5434265&type=product

Printer/scanner/copier/fax:
HP psc 2510 photosmart all-in-one
HP color LaserJet
http://www.hp.com/united-states/consumer/gateway/printing_multifunction.html

HP scanner
http://www.hp.com/united-states/consumer/gateway/scanners_proj.html

Sound card:
Sound Blaster® Audigy® 2 ZS Platinum Pro
http://www.soundblaster.com/products/Audigy2ZS_platinum_pro/

Speakers:
Creative GigaWorks 7.1
http://www.americas.creative.com/promo/gigaworks/

Keyboard / Mouse:
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=013
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10333522

Wireless access point:
http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=538

Cable modem:
http://broadband.motorola.com/noflash/sb5100.html
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...80777&type=product&productCategoryId=cat01025
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...93414&type=product&productCategoryId=cat01025

Network switch:
3Com® OfficeConnect® Gigabit Switch 5
http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/detail.jsp?tab=features&pathtype=purchase&sku=3C1670500

Webcam:
QuickCam® Cordless
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?p...ID=4&CONTENTID=6312&countryid=19&languageid=1

Yeah if ya got more money than brains.

Hank

Skid · Oct 6, 2003

ghjghjghj said:
Nice box?...

That's quite a budget you've got to work with. No really bad choices, but
you might have trouble running an Opteron on those Intel-chipset
motherboards ;>(

Dirk Puslich · Oct 6, 2003

ghjghjghj said:
Nice box?...

Motherboard:
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4c800-e_d/overview.htm

you'll like this one.

or
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket754/k8v-d/overview.htm
or
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=130

CPU:
Intel Pentium 4 (3.2 Ghz) Extreme Edition
http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/processors/pentium4/
Yup

or
AMD Athlon? 64 FX-51
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9488,00.html

Floppy drive:
http://www.teac.com/DSPD/3_5_Floppy_RetailKit.htm

Get the cheapest floppy you can find. If you spend $15 you spent too much.

Removable storage:
Zip 750MB drive
http://www.iomega.com/na/products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT<%

Why bother with a zip drive? Why not just get a dvd burner and store 5GB?

3Eprd_id=391607

Giga Vault? Portable Hard Disc Media and USB Adaptor
http://www.sonystyle.com

Case:
http://www.aopen.com/products/housing/h700-series.htm
Fine

4 gb of DDR 400:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

Overkill. 1GB is plenty

Video card:
http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800pro/

I have this card - excellent - Nvidia is poorer for Half Life 2, need I say more?

or
http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=fx_5900

Hard drives:
Maxtor 250gb (serial ATA)
http://www.maxtor.com/en/products/ata/desktop/

Get 2 120GB and stripe them (RAID 0)

ray hartman · Oct 7, 2003

gh:

You are tossing $$$ to the wind with little benefit. Avoid the 13375
hardware pander. Why not buy "down" $400( = 98% performance ) and take
the best_gal for a cruise_ship weekend. Betcha your ROI will be
infinitely greater.

ray hartman
*******************

John Lewis · Oct 7, 2003

gh:

You are tossing $$$ to the wind with little benefit. Avoid the 13375
hardware pander. Why not buy "down" $400( = 98% performance ) and take
the best_gal for a cruise_ship weekend. Betcha your ROI will be
infinitely greater.

Yes, and your wonderful hardware will always be second-rate and near-
obsolete 6 months after you build your computer. Why not wait for
Prescott and PCI-Express............. ? If I were you I would
certainly wait until the software you really want to run on your
nice shiny machine goes GOLD. Then you can make a final decision
on configuration plus save a lot of money. In the US, hardware is
delivered in 3-4 days ( free Fedex Super-Saver).

2 weeks after a tiitle goes GOLD before it shows up in the retail or
on-line-purchase channels. Plenty of time to receive the hardware
and build the dream machine...........

John Lewis

Jerry Polyak · Oct 7, 2003

Skid · Oct 8, 2003

Is that a $400 pro to replace the girlfriend on the cruise or a $400 pro to
do the PC build? Be precise. One is a bargain, the other is not ;>)

This post, like most similar, is probably just a wish list from somebody
daydreaming about state-of-the-art hardware, or a rich kid who has figured
out that Dell doesn't use the best components but hasn't found any of the
custom builders who do and is wondering if he might be able to put it
together himself.

The list itself shows he has a bit more homework to do before he makes any
of those decisions.

Jerry Polyak · Oct 8, 2003

The girlfriend, of course.

In full agreement on the B.S. post. I view all of them as an attempt to
start some flame wars. Anyone who is actually trying to build a system will
usually post more precise questions. (i.e. one component vs. another).
This one was just some wanabe trying to yank an nonexistent chain.

| Is that a $400 pro to replace the girlfriend on the cruise or a $400 pro
to
| do the PC build? Be precise. One is a bargain, the other is not ;>)
|
| This post, like most similar, is probably just a wish list from somebody
| daydreaming about state-of-the-art hardware, or a rich kid who has figured
| out that Dell doesn't use the best components but hasn't found any of the
| custom builders who do and is wondering if he might be able to put it
| together himself.
|
| The list itself shows he has a bit more homework to do before he makes any
| of those decisions.
|
| | > Jeez, for $400 he should just get a pro and skip a weekend of hard work.
| >
| >
| > | > | gh:
| > |
| > | You are tossing $$$ to the wind with little benefit. Avoid the 13375
| > | hardware pander. Why not buy "down" $400( = 98% performance ) and
take
| > | the best_gal for a cruise_ship weekend. Betcha your ROI will be
| > | infinitely greater.
| > |
| > | ray hartman
| > | *******************
| > |
| > | ghjghjghj wrote:
| > |
| > | > Nice box?...
| > | >
| > | > Motherboard:
| > | > http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4c800-e_d/overview.htm
| > | > or
| > | > http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket754/k8v-d/overview.htm
| > | > or
| > | >
| http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=130
| > | >
| > | > CPU:
| > | > Intel Pentium 4 (3.2 Ghz) Extreme Edition
| > | > http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/processors/pentium4/
| > | > or
| > | > AMD Athlon^(TM) 64 FX-51
| > | >
| >
|
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9488,00.html
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Floppy drive:
| > | > http://www.teac.com/DSPD/3_5_Floppy_RetailKit.htm
| > | >
| > | > Removable storage:
| > | > Zip 750MB drive
| > | >
| >
|
http://www.iomega.com/na/products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT<>prd_id=391607
| > | > Giga Vault^(TM) Portable Hard Disc Media and USB Adaptor
| > | > http://www.sonystyle.com
| > | >
| > | > Case:
| > | > http://www.aopen.com/products/housing/h700-series.htm
| > | >
| > | > 4 gb of DDR 400:
| > | > http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM
| > | >
| > | > Video card:
| > | > http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800pro/
| > | > or
| > | > http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=fx_5900
| > | >
| > | > Hard drives:
| > | > Maxtor 250gb (serial ATA)
| > | > http://www.maxtor.com/en/products/ata/desktop/
| > | >
| > | > Maxtor 300gb (old ata)
| > | > http://www.shareholder.com/maxtor/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=112098
| > | >
| > | > Maxtor OneTouch 300gb
| > | > http://www.maxtor.com/en/products/external/onetouch/onetouch_combo/
| > | >
| > | > Monitor:
| > | > Viewsonic 22" CRT (top of the line)
| > | > http://www.viewsonic.com/products/crt_p225fb.htm
| > | > http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10328224
| > | > or
| > | >
| >
|
http://www.necmitsubishi.com/products/home/ProductDetail.cfm?product_id=230&division=NEC
| > | >
| > | > DVD burner:
| > | > Plextor 8x
| > | > http://www.plextor.com/english/
| > | >
| > | > CD-RW burner:
| > | > Plextor 52X CD-R, 32X CD-RW, 52X max CD-ROM
| > | > http://www.plextor.com/english/products/Premium.html
| > | >
| >
|
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051826239122&skuId=5434265&type=product
| > | >
| > | > Printer/scanner/copier/fax:
| > | > HP psc 2510 photosmart all-in-one
| > | > HP color LaserJet
| > | >
| >
|
http://www.hp.com/united-states/consumer/gateway/printing_multifunction.html
| > | >
| > | > HP scanner
| > | > http://www.hp.com/united-states/consumer/gateway/scanners_proj.html
| > | >
| > | > Sound card:
| > | > Sound Blaster® Audigy® 2 ZS Platinum Pro
| > | > http://www.soundblaster.com/products/Audigy2ZS_platinum_pro/
| > | >
| > | > Speakers:
| > | > Creative GigaWorks 7.1
| > | > http://www.americas.creative.com/promo/gigaworks/
| > | >
| > | > Keyboard / Mouse:
| > | >
| >
|
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=013
| > | > http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10333522
| > | >
| > | > Wireless access point:
| > | > http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=538
| > | >
| > | > Cable modem:
| > | > http://broadband.motorola.com/noflash/sb5100.html
| > | >
| >
|
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...80777&type=product&productCategoryId=cat01025
| > | > or
| > | > http://www.toshiba.com/taisnpd/products/pcx2600.html
| > | >
| > | > Fax/Modem:
| > | > http://www.usr.com/products/home/home-product.asp?sku=USR5686E
| > | >
| >
|
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...93414&type=product&productCategoryId=cat01025
| > | >
| > | > Network switch:
| > | > 3Com® OfficeConnect® Gigabit Switch 5
| > | >
| >
|
http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/detail.jsp?tab=features&pathtype=purchase&sku=3C1670500
| > | >
| > | > Webcam:
| > | > QuickCam® Cordless
| > | >
| >
|
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?p...ID=4&CONTENTID=6312&countryid=19&languageid=1
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Home-built PC... opinions?

ghjghjghj

Ben Pope

Hank

Skid

Dirk Puslich

ray hartman

John Lewis

Jerry Polyak

Skid

Jerry Polyak