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umwhat
installed on a used computer I bought is a trial version or a retail version.
The software is activated.
The software is activated.
J
John E. Carty
umwhat said:
Open a blank document in Word and it will have "Microsoft Word (Trial)" at
the
very top if it really is just the Trial version
U
umwhat
Wow, it read ; Document1 - Microsoft Word ... does this mean...
P
Peter Foldes
Open Help then About
U
umwhat
I downloaded a product key finder and there is no OEm or any other 3 letter
abbreviation it the product key...oh my god what have I done....looks like I
have a free copy of Office 2007 Professional....I think I shall guard this
hard drive with my life....
abbreviation it the product key...oh my god what have I done....looks like I
have a free copy of Office 2007 Professional....I think I shall guard this
hard drive with my life....
U
umwhat
I could not find any option to open Help the About anywhere for the office
softwares.
Where do I stand legally with this software?
I mean, I do not have the installation media.
Lol....the guy auctioned the computer in a hurry saying he was going
overseas and lucky me was only looking for parts to make up computers.
softwares.
Where do I stand legally with this software?
I mean, I do not have the installation media.
Lol....the guy auctioned the computer in a hurry saying he was going
overseas and lucky me was only looking for parts to make up computers.
L
LVTravel
umwhat said:
"Legally" you don't have a leg to stand on. The EULA for Office (I'm
paraphrasing) states that to transfer the software to a different party all
disks and documentation as well as the Certificate of Authority must be
transferred to the purchasing party. If you don't have the disks and
documentation that came with the software, it is not considered "legal."
The original purchaser can, and probably will eventually, install onto
another computer and then you won't be able to update the product.
From Office 2007 EULA
"16. TRANSFER TO A THIRD PARTY. The first user of the software may make a
one-time transfer of the software, and this agreement, directly to a third
party. The first user must uninstall the software before transferring it
separately from the device. The first user may not retain any copies.
Before any permitted transfer, the other party must agree that this
agreement applies to the transfer and use of the software. The transfer
must include the proof of license. If the software is an upgrade, any
transfer must also include all prior versions of the software."
Since you didn't get the disk or proof of license (COA) for the product the
original purchaser didn't comply with the EULA and therefore no "legal"
transfer of ownership of the license occurred. The original purchaser
should have removed the software prior to transfer to you.
The Enterprise edition becomes void when the computer is transferred outside
the company that has the main Enterprise license whether is it part of the
home use program or not.
Where you will be denied use is when the original purchaser installs the
copy and reactivates it on a new computer and this happens:
"5. VALIDATION.
a. The software will from time to time update or require download of the
validation feature of the software. Validation verifies that the software
has been activated and is properly licensed. Validation also permits you to
use certain features of the software or to obtain additional benefits. For
more information, see www.microsoft.com/genuine/office/WhyValidate.aspx. "
By the way, since you bought the computer, did you also get the Windows CD
or rebuild CD from the seller? If not you won't be able to easily reinstall
the operating system either. You should always rebuild the hard drive from
scratch by reformatting the hard drive. This will remove all software and
data, pictures, etc from any second-hand computer since you don't want to
get caught with any child porn or other illegal information or nastys on
your computer that the previous person may have hidden away.
S
Shenan Stanley
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First off - I would not (personally) leave a computer purchased from most
(this usually includes a new OEM purchase for me - although there have been
exceptions) with the operating system/software it come installed with, but
do a clean installation myself. I would *never* do it if the computer was a
used computer purchased from an individual (and your case - given the facts
you just did - would rank even *higher* on my list) - I would definitely
format and start fresh.
You might ask why - well the facts are pretty simple and common sense.
- I do not know what the last user used the computer for.
- I do not know what the last user installed on the computer (how/why.)
Without that knowledge - it is very possible I am in possesion of things I
would rather not be in possesion of and/or that the seller could be
collecting information on me (or the spyware/adware it is covertly running
is collecting information for someone/thing.)
Paranoid? Maybe.
Possible? Without a doubt.
As for your status with that software - it could be legitimate (although it
sucks you do not have installation media for it) or it could be illegitimate
(meaning despite it being installed - you have no rights to it.)
Given what you have...
- "the guy auctioned the computer in a hurry saying he was going overseas
and lucky me was only looking for parts to make up computers"
- "this computer has Microsoft Office Enterprise Edition and Microsoft
Offfice 2007 Professional"
- "I do not have the installation media."
I would venture to say you likely do not have a case for having bought
Office 2007 of any flavor.
As for the way given earlier to get the "About" information... Here is what
I would suggest:
-- Open each Microsoft Office product (at least the following - you can
open, check and then close each one to minimize system load and speed things
up...)
- Access 2007
- Excel 2007
- PowerPoint 2007
- Word 2007
When you open each one...
- Click the Microsoft Office Button.
- Click "Name of Application" Options. (Sub in appropriate name)
- Click Resources.
- Click About.
Take note of (type in notepad, write on a piece of paper, etc) the first two
lines in the window (not the title) and the part under "This product is
licensed to:", including the "Product ID". Bring all that (except the
Product ID for now) back here and post it for each product. If the
information (parts of it) are the same from one product to another - save
yourself (and those reading the post) time/effort and just make note of that
instead of copying it again and again. This will provide the version and
the license information (but nothing critical/secretive.)
For example:
Microsoft Office Word 2007 (12.0.6311.5000) SP1 MSO (12.0.6320.5000)
Part of Microsoft Office Enterprise 2007
This Product is Licensed to:
Name Name Name (of individual/department/etc)
Name Name Name (of comp[any, organization, etc)
-- Download/install and run "Belarc Advisor" from here:
http://belarc.com/Programs/advisor.exe
Take note of its results - in particular - the "Software Licenses" section.
I would likely print it to PDF and paper for safe future reference. Do not
post the product key here, but do take note in this section (and post here)
the title of the softwares licensed on this computer... For example:
Belarc - Advisor
Microsoft - Internet Explorer
Microsoft - MSDN
Microsoft - Office Enterprise
Microsoft - VSTA
Microsoft - Windows Vista Ultimate
<- some of which would be unlikely to appear on a consumer system without
being installed by a business with licenses for it.
Given everything I have read in this thread - I would say you likely have no
legitimate claim to the Microsoft Office software now installed upon it and
would be (without imaging software and much trust in the previous user of
the computer) out of luck when it came to fixing a catastrophic issue -
should one arise.
This said - your choice of actions is a moral/wisdom based one and
nothing/no-one can make those choices for you. There is nothing other than
your own choice that would hinder you from likely using Microsoft Office
2007 (Enterprise) on that system forever if it is working and updates
properly now. That may change at some point in the future - but I doubt it.
However - it is only different (IMO) than you downloading and installing one
of the many pirated versions of Office 2007 floating freely on the Internet
in the fact that you - personally - did not initiate and complete the
installation.
<entire conversation>
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...p.newusers/browse_frm/thread/a8fa49c51293cbcc
</entire conversation>
First off - I would not (personally) leave a computer purchased from most
(this usually includes a new OEM purchase for me - although there have been
exceptions) with the operating system/software it come installed with, but
do a clean installation myself. I would *never* do it if the computer was a
used computer purchased from an individual (and your case - given the facts
you just did - would rank even *higher* on my list) - I would definitely
format and start fresh.
You might ask why - well the facts are pretty simple and common sense.
- I do not know what the last user used the computer for.
- I do not know what the last user installed on the computer (how/why.)
Without that knowledge - it is very possible I am in possesion of things I
would rather not be in possesion of and/or that the seller could be
collecting information on me (or the spyware/adware it is covertly running
is collecting information for someone/thing.)
Paranoid? Maybe.
Possible? Without a doubt.
As for your status with that software - it could be legitimate (although it
sucks you do not have installation media for it) or it could be illegitimate
(meaning despite it being installed - you have no rights to it.)
Given what you have...
- "the guy auctioned the computer in a hurry saying he was going overseas
and lucky me was only looking for parts to make up computers"
- "this computer has Microsoft Office Enterprise Edition and Microsoft
Offfice 2007 Professional"
- "I do not have the installation media."
I would venture to say you likely do not have a case for having bought
Office 2007 of any flavor.
As for the way given earlier to get the "About" information... Here is what
I would suggest:
-- Open each Microsoft Office product (at least the following - you can
open, check and then close each one to minimize system load and speed things
up...)
- Access 2007
- Excel 2007
- PowerPoint 2007
- Word 2007
When you open each one...
- Click the Microsoft Office Button.
- Click "Name of Application" Options. (Sub in appropriate name)
- Click Resources.
- Click About.
Take note of (type in notepad, write on a piece of paper, etc) the first two
lines in the window (not the title) and the part under "This product is
licensed to:", including the "Product ID". Bring all that (except the
Product ID for now) back here and post it for each product. If the
information (parts of it) are the same from one product to another - save
yourself (and those reading the post) time/effort and just make note of that
instead of copying it again and again. This will provide the version and
the license information (but nothing critical/secretive.)
For example:
Microsoft Office Word 2007 (12.0.6311.5000) SP1 MSO (12.0.6320.5000)
Part of Microsoft Office Enterprise 2007
This Product is Licensed to:
Name Name Name (of individual/department/etc)
Name Name Name (of comp[any, organization, etc)
-- Download/install and run "Belarc Advisor" from here:
http://belarc.com/Programs/advisor.exe
Take note of its results - in particular - the "Software Licenses" section.
I would likely print it to PDF and paper for safe future reference. Do not
post the product key here, but do take note in this section (and post here)
the title of the softwares licensed on this computer... For example:
Belarc - Advisor
Microsoft - Internet Explorer
Microsoft - MSDN
Microsoft - Office Enterprise
Microsoft - VSTA
Microsoft - Windows Vista Ultimate
<- some of which would be unlikely to appear on a consumer system without
being installed by a business with licenses for it.
Given everything I have read in this thread - I would say you likely have no
legitimate claim to the Microsoft Office software now installed upon it and
would be (without imaging software and much trust in the previous user of
the computer) out of luck when it came to fixing a catastrophic issue -
should one arise.
This said - your choice of actions is a moral/wisdom based one and
nothing/no-one can make those choices for you. There is nothing other than
your own choice that would hinder you from likely using Microsoft Office
2007 (Enterprise) on that system forever if it is working and updates
properly now. That may change at some point in the future - but I doubt it.
However - it is only different (IMO) than you downloading and installing one
of the many pirated versions of Office 2007 floating freely on the Internet
in the fact that you - personally - did not initiate and complete the
installation.
U
umwhat
hi, simply for your interests sake now... I did a Disk Check and the report
included... CHKDSK is verifying file data (stage 4 of 5). Windows repplaced
bad clusters in file 21058 of name \WINDOWS\SERVIC~I\i386\agtintl.dll. ...
also in file 21350 of name \WINDOWS\SERVIC~I\i386 hschelpp.chm ... um ... 85
percent completed. Now memory dump has finished and report is Boot Devices
have changed and BBS check in Bios . Remembered I changed the power cord and
replugged, hdd detected and now booting ok.
Earlier had Blue screen, may have been ower cable also but thought you may
like to see the files Windows dealt with in the Dis Check
message was...kernel stack fault_in page error_ (4 phrases)... ***STOP:
0x00000077 (0xC000000E,0C000000E,0x00000000,0x005C3D000)
Beginning dump of physical memory.
Yes, I will format sooner or later.
--
....scribble scribble scribble...
included... CHKDSK is verifying file data (stage 4 of 5). Windows repplaced
bad clusters in file 21058 of name \WINDOWS\SERVIC~I\i386\agtintl.dll. ...
also in file 21350 of name \WINDOWS\SERVIC~I\i386 hschelpp.chm ... um ... 85
percent completed. Now memory dump has finished and report is Boot Devices
have changed and BBS check in Bios . Remembered I changed the power cord and
replugged, hdd detected and now booting ok.
Earlier had Blue screen, may have been ower cable also but thought you may
like to see the files Windows dealt with in the Dis Check
message was...kernel stack fault_in page error_ (4 phrases)... ***STOP:
0x00000077 (0xC000000E,0C000000E,0x00000000,0x005C3D000)
Beginning dump of physical memory.
Yes, I will format sooner or later.
--
....scribble scribble scribble...
Shenan Stanley said:
U
umwhat
well what do you know...the software is also registered to ********** and a
google leads me to an ru torrents website...whatever could this mean...hmmm,
a format may be in order methinks.
--
....scribble scribble scribble...
google leads me to an ru torrents website...whatever could this mean...hmmm,
a format may be in order methinks.
--
....scribble scribble scribble...
Shenan Stanley said:
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Peter Foldes
Me thinks too. ru=Russia
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umwhat said:
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VanguardLH
umwhat said:
Yeah, what you bought was hardware only. You got a polluted hard drive
that the seller should have wiped clean, reformatted, and installed the
OS *if* the OS were actually included in the sale. You don't have the
install CDs and you don't have the COA to prove the seller transferred a
legit license to you. The seller still has the legit license, you
don't, or they gave you a pirated copy.
If the seller didn't wipe and format the partition's on the hard drive
and install a fresh copy of the OS then it is up to you to do that using
either the install CDs provided by the seller or obtaining a legit copy
of the OS (and any other apps you want to install).
Call the seller. Ask them if they indeed intended to transfer their
license for Office 2007 Pro to you as part of the sale. If so, have
them send you the official installation media and the COA sheet. Also
inform them that you will be calling Microsoft to confirm the buyer's
license is legitimate and that the seller will lose their license for
it.
You already know what you have isn't legit. If you bought the laptop
at, say, the Goodwill so you have no idea who was the original owner,
you don't own any licenses for the OS and you don't own any licenses for
the apps on the hard drive unless the install or recover CDs were
included or their COAs. If you got a good price on the hardware and it
works okay then consider it a good buy and now you'll have to go get the
OS and apps to install on it.
With the dearth of specifics on just how you obtained this used laptop,
it is a very good bet that what you bought was hardware only that
included a polluted hard drive.