Hey guys, it's my turn for help this time.

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Fergus Cooney

Hi Everyone,

I finished playing newgroupie this morning and went to bed. When I came
back, I couldn't get any new messages for this group. I'm using Outlook
Express. It showed the newsgroup highlighted in the Folder View with the
number of new messages in brackets. When I went into the folder, however, it
just sat there and wouldn't go get the new messages. The other newsgroups,
eg csharp, were business as usual.

After a loads of retrying, and this and that, I got two new messages
[Cor? what does Eine fergussung ist .. mean?, lol. Can't remember it -
message lost!).

I've tried unsubscribing and resubscribing, compacting, deleting, blah,
blah.

The end result is that I've lost all my messages - all those wonderful
threads :-( - and I'd like to restart. How do I get Outlook to do this. I
want to go back to when I first joined.

[I've got Forte News Agent but it won't connect, so it's only Outlook at
the moment.]

Yours in hope,
Fergus.

ps. Now is my chance to tell you that this is my first experience with
newsgroups. It's been an intense and very satisfying weekend. I've really
enjoyed hanging out with you all. Thanks!!
 
Hi Fergus,
You did make some nice help late in the evening.
As I can gues it is something with View, current view.
Probably you have choosen to hide something there and checked the show
replies on my messages.

And fergussung.
I did try to write in German A mistake is human.
Cor
 
Hi Cor,

Cor said:
And fergussung.
I did try to write in German A mistake is human.

Errare humanum est.

Ooops... wait a minute...

Irren ist menschlich.

Regards,
Herfried K. Wagner
 
Thanks Cor,

I was actually looking a the Current View settings only the night
before, but I left them as they were (all messages, always). No the trouble
was something far deeper and deadlier. More news further down this thread.

Regards,
Fergus
 
Hi again Cor,

Somehow I must have given the impression that I speak German. Oh Jah.
Ich kann ein bischen Deutsch sprechen, aber es ist schlecht, weil sooner
oder später Ich run out of Wörden und muss Ich mein English Teutonicise.
Aber es sounds gut für ein kleiner while!! * ^

So when you said "Eine fergussung es menslich", I actually hadn't the
foggiest idea what you were saying, old bean!

But once I'd run Herfried's "menschlich" through AltaVista's BabelFish,
it clicked.

Regards,
Fergus

============================================
* Oh yes. I can speak a little German, but it is bad, because sooner or
later I run out of words and must my English into German mangle. But it
sounds good for a little while!!

^ Spoken in ein suitaply Chermann vfay. Vis ze "Oh Jah" beingk deep und
throaty [cos 'ass 'ow I 'eard it innanad wot I wunce wotched!]

ps. I hope no-one (Herfried, Cindy) gets the impression that this is a
piss-take. I love German, have done since school (hated French - too
slippery). And especially the accent (Eva Habermann - her voice in Lexx -
sooo sexy). I wish I could speak it better (but not enough to overcome the
inertia).

pps. What country are you from Cor?
 
Cheers Nick,

|| After careful deliberation I have come to the conclusion that your
problem
|| is known as
||
|| "Outlook Express"

LOL

|| You're running a 100% up-to-date Windows I presume?

Oh that I <had> been, sigh.

|| The thing about OE is that it is a complete bugger to uninstall

Hey, Whoa there, good buddy!! I've lost my favourite newsgroup but the
others are all 100% fine and dandy. Uninstall sounds like heavy action.
[Little did I know...]

|| HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{-GUID-}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook\blah
|| I believe this is where Outlook Express's settings are stored (for
some bizaar reason).

If you look on the Outlook File menu there will be Switch Identity and
Identities... Each identity (user) has it's own settings. This can be for
one person to have multiple setups, but is designed more with shared
machines in mind, eg a family computer. The identities are stored at a high
level in the registry with the company and program (Outlook, WAB) as
subsidiaries because MS envisaged other applications implementing their User
concept in the same way.

|| Anyway I hope this helps :-)

Not per se, because I had a different problem, as it turned out. [sigh...]
But the fact that you and Cor replied at all was a most welcome boost to my
morale. :-)

By the way. I meant to ask you to respond directly to me as I wasn't sure
that I could get in to read your reply posts. But an email notification came
from Developersdex. How did that happen ?

==================================================
The story.

So there I was with this missing newsgroup. And to make matters worse my
machine was crawling along dead slow. I've been running Kazaa and Shareaza
solidly, so I'd become used to waiting [get this - a 56K modem and it won't
go above 42K. Shareaza takes most of <that> trying to find me some rare
material - so there's precious little left for browsing the newsgroup and
Internet - maybe 8-12K!!].

But this was beyond slow. Every page in the browser was coming back
<immediately> with "Server not found" - so fast it was as if it wasn't even
trying. Anyway I left the browsing because I wanted to see if I could get
Forte News Agent to get back my precious languages.vb. I've never used it
before so at first I took it for granted, if impatiently, that it was slow
to download the headers.

But after waiting and waiting (I'd switched Shareaza off by then), I
checked the modem status to see if there was any flow at all - perhaps it
had stalled? Shock horror!! It wasn't just receiving, it was sending. And
not the normal small flow of request packets - stuff was flooding out!!
Megabytes of stuff. Now I may be new to newsgroups but I'm pretty certain
they don't send more than they receive.

At this point I thought I'd check ZoneAlarm to see if it was logging any
unusual activity. Shock horror II + Sinking Feeling. I'd forgotten to switch
ZoneAlarm on!! [Who can guess the story yet?]. On it went - immediately - so
I could check what it's logging. And the next thing I know is that it's
asking if I want DLLHOST.EXE to send to the Internet? No way!! How about
SVCHOST.EXE? No thank you!!

This stopped the flow of data out to the Internet, but these programs
were now showing in the log every time they got blocked. Which was umpteen
times per second. Poking away at 62.127.43.<19>:135, 62.127.43.<20>:135,
62.127.43.<21>:135, and so on.

Well I knew these had to be bogus programs. Not just because of the
strange behaviour but because of their names. I hate program names, if fact
almost any text, that it all in capitals, so I'd gone through my WinNT
folders normalising anything that appeared in TaskMan, which I use a lot.
And DllHost.exe and SvcHost.exe shouldn't have been in caps.

I couldn't kill them in Taskman which indicated that they were running
as services. And indeed, there they were in the Services section of the
Computer Management utility. Stop they went. Kill they went. And then I
found where they lived - WinNT\System32\Wins.

Having disabled them, I was able to get back onto the Internet and did a
search for the two names. And there it was. My lapse with ZoneAlarm
(presumably) had got me caught by the virus Win32.Worm.Welchia.A.

An article there showed me how to finish off cleaning them out of the
registry and that was the job done. The article said that this variant of
the virus only came out 8 days ago. My virus checker hadn't picked up on it.
[I later updated the checker and it <still> didn't detect them - even when I
stuck them under it's nose and said "here, sniff these" - so I reckon it's
change time there.]

The next task was to at last get me a 100% up-to-date Windows. I'd been
putting it off because the Windows Update web site wanted me to download
tens of MB and install lots of new stuff with (to my wary mind) as much
change of making it all go down the toilet as of strengthening anything.

Well that took all night as you might expect, with one nervous period
towards the end of a 32MB download - will it make it before the two-hour
cutoff? (My modem connection status had was strangely missing from the
SysTray and I hadn't clocked the time). It made. So I installed. I rebooted.
I downloaded. I installed. Yawn. Gotta keep going... I rebooted. I
downloaded. I installed. I rebooted.

Finally, eventually, at long last, I got to return to Outlook Express
and resubscribe. And I got you all back. :-D

And I'm very happy to be back. :-D :-D :-D

Best wishes to everyone,
Fergus.

Thanks again, Cor and Nick. :-)

=========================================================
There's more info about the security leak which allows this worm to work:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/
bulletin/MS03-007.asp

You can get your OS checked out for missing service packs and patches:
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
 
Hi Fergus,
Hey, Whoa there, good buddy!! I've lost my favourite newsgroup but the
others are all 100% fine and dandy. Uninstall sounds like heavy action.
[Little did I know...]

Yeah, it sounds heavy but unfortunately sometimes it is essential.
If you look on the Outlook File menu there will be Switch Identity and
Identities... Each identity (user) has it's own settings. This can be for
one person to have multiple setups, but is designed more with shared
machines in mind, eg a family computer. The identities are stored at a high
level in the registry with the company and program (Outlook, WAB) as
subsidiaries because MS envisaged other applications implementing their User
concept in the same way.

Yes, I understand this, but simply storing an XML file in the users
"Documents and settings" folder would have been far better! The only reason
they use the registry is for pants OS's like Windows 98 where they don't
really support multiple users. Oh well!
Not per se, because I had a different problem, as it turned out. [sigh...]
But the fact that you and Cor replied at all was a most welcome boost to my
morale. :-)
Poo!

The story.

And a long one it is
So there I was with this missing newsgroup. And to make matters worse my
machine was crawling along dead slow. I've been running Kazaa and Shareaza
solidly, so I'd become used to waiting [get this - a 56K modem and it won't
go above 42K. Shareaza takes most of <that> trying to find me some rare
material - so there's precious little left for browsing the newsgroup and
Internet - maybe 8-12K!!].

Hmm, running Kazaa and Shareaza on a 56k modem, that is quite dire. I would
suggest getting broadband! Especially if you are using Kazaa, Shareaza takes
forever to download so there isn't much chance of that steeling your
bandwidth, but it can knock out routers by the sheer number of connections
it can make. Get yourself broadband then you can download "rare material /
porn" to your hearts content! Haha!
At this point I thought I'd check ZoneAlarm to see if it was logging any
unusual activity. Shock horror II + Sinking Feeling. I'd forgotten to switch
ZoneAlarm on!! [Who can guess the story yet?]. On it went - immediately - so
I could check what it's logging. And the next thing I know is that it's
asking if I want DLLHOST.EXE to send to the Internet? No way!! How about
SVCHOST.EXE? No thank you!!

Yuk, ZoneAlarm is a scaringly disgusting application. In fact I wouldn't
pi55 on a ZoneAlarm CD if it were on fire, but I would put it out with a
spade! Hmmm.....
Well I knew these had to be bogus programs. Not just because of the
strange behaviour but because of their names. I hate program names, if fact
almost any text, that it all in capitals, so I'd gone through my WinNT
folders normalising anything that appeared in TaskMan, which I use a lot.
And DllHost.exe and SvcHost.exe shouldn't have been in caps.

Very well spotted!
I couldn't kill them in Taskman which indicated that they were running
as services. And indeed, there they were in the Services section of the
Computer Management utility. Stop they went. Kill they went. And then I
found where they lived - WinNT\System32\Wins.
Bingo!

Having disabled them, I was able to get back onto the Internet and did a
search for the two names. And there it was. My lapse with ZoneAlarm
(presumably) had got me caught by the virus Win32.Worm.Welchia.A.

Nasty, the laptop that I fixed recently that had The Baster Worm. But it
wasn't the worm that had destroyed OE in that case, it was some
pre-installed spyware. The only way I could resolve it was by re-setting
the users OE settings, i.e. removing the registry keys (it's okay OE
replaced them with fresh ones the next time it was loaded). But nasty none
the less...
An article there showed me how to finish off cleaning them out of the
registry and that was the job done. The article said that this variant of
the virus only came out 8 days ago. My virus checker hadn't picked up on it.
[I later updated the checker and it <still> didn't detect them - even when I
stuck them under it's nose and said "here, sniff these" - so I reckon it's
change time there.]

What virus checker do you have? So many people are using bad virus checkers
that are so crap they shouldn't even be called virus checkers. Norton is
very good, simply by the fact that you can submit unrecognized viruses etc.
The next task was to at last get me a 100% up-to-date Windows. I'd been
putting it off because the Windows Update web site wanted me to download
tens of MB and install lots of new stuff with (to my wary mind) as much
change of making it all go down the toilet as of strengthening anything.

Again, broadband would help, mainly because even if you get Service Pack 1
on a CD and install it you will still have something like 28+ critical
updates left to download! It's not really all new stuff, just fixes the
broken parts of windows (bodges blue tac in where the putty sealant fell out
;-) )
Finally, eventually, at long last, I got to return to Outlook Express
and resubscribe. And I got you all back. :-D
Hurrah!

Thanks again, Cor and Nick. :-)

My pleasure, not that I helped in the slightest. But get yourself a good
virus checker! not some freebie one, and get yourself a good firewall! :-)

Nick.
 
Hello,

Fergus Cooney said:
Somehow I must have given the impression that I speak German. Oh Jah.
Ich kann ein bischen Deutsch sprechen, aber es ist schlecht, weil sooner
oder später Ich run out of Wörden und muss Ich mein English Teutonicise.
Aber es sounds gut für ein kleiner while!! * ^

So when you said "Eine fergussung es menslich", I actually hadn't the
foggiest idea what you were saying, old bean!
;-)))

============================================
* Oh yes. I can speak a little German, but it is bad, because sooner or
later I run out of words and must my English into German mangle. But it
sounds good for a little while!!

^ Spoken in ein suitaply Chermann vfay. Vis ze "Oh Jah" beingk deep und
throaty [cos 'ass 'ow I 'eard it innanad wot I wunce wotched!]

ps. I hope no-one (Herfried, Cindy) gets the impression that this is a

Who is Cindy?
piss-take. I love German, have done since school (hated French - too
slippery).

I hated French too. At school I learned Italian.

;-)
And especially the accent (Eva Habermann

Who is that?

Regards,
Herfried K. Wagner
 
Herfried K. Wagner said:
Who is that?

German (unknown *g*) actress in "Lexx" (AFAIK on "VOX" (TV station))


vote:
[ ] my most important statement for today

;-)))))))
 
Hello,

Armin Zingler said:
German (unknown *g*) actress in "Lexx" (AFAIK on "VOX" (TV station))

Thanks, I didn't know that. Maybe I shouldn't sit in front of the computer
for 16 hours/day.
vote:
[ ] my most important statement for today

;-)))

Regards,
Herfried K. Wagner
 
Hello,

Fergus Cooney said:
Eva Habermann is a total BABE who appeared in a sci-fi series
called Lexx - a joint German/Canadian venture. She spoke in
English but with a stronk cherman akcent and very breathy with it.
The attached picture is nice

Not the type of women I prefer.

;-)))
Cindy (Meister of Switzerland) is a Word MVP who clarified

Ooops. She sometimes posts to this ng.
ps. Sorry, Cindy - it's rude to talk about you - hope you don't mind. I
guess that's two blushes in one day, eh?

*huh*

Regards,
Herfried K. Wagner
 
Dear Nick,

| > But the fact that you and Cor replied at all was
| > a most welcome boost to my morale. :-)
|
| Poo!

Is that "Poo!" as in "Aw shucks", [looks at ground, scratches around
with toe of boot] "it was nothin'."?


| > The story.
|
| And a long one it is

Hey, be fair, I whittled it down from 12 pages to that mere summary. I
was going to give chapter and verse on every keystroke, and when I made a
cup of tea, and everything. I even left out the list of intercepts that
ZoneAlarm made, and I <really> wanted to include that.


|"rare material / porn"

On 36K usable bandwidth?? I can't afford any "indulges", well, they're a
much, much lower priority. The "rare material" is early versions of certain
music that has only ONE source. The guy's got a couple of dozen that I want
and he likes high bit-rates. Talk about watching paint dry. And then
there're elusive advanced books on certain languages that we could probably
all name. :-)


| Get yourself broadband then you can download "rare material /
| porn" to your hearts content! Haha!

Broadband? I wish!! To quote (I believe) The Godfather: "The time is not
right, right now".

| But get yourself a good virus checker! not some freebie one, and get
yourself a good firewall! :-)

Ditto. (Borassic, mate)

All the best,
Fergus
 
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