Here we go again, more virus and spyware

[Cbean]

Hi folks I am new to the group, here's my two cents worth, school's in
so expect an increase in the bad things happening to your computer.Its
a fact that most student who are into this sort of criminal activity
use their campus,colleges or high school computers to do their dirty
deeds..

I believe many of the problem we are facing today as a result of virus
and adware is as a result of poor protection and is only a tip of the
iceberg on what is happening to our computers.I don't mean to scare
you but most of the time many problems when they occur or first shoe
up, could be the manifestation of a larger problem on your computer.

Here's what I usually recommend doing, at a very early stage you
should run a virus scan with your latest updated anti virus software
and then a program that removes adware or malware. If after doing this
you still encounter the problems and things become more serious, its
time to seek even further for more serious options.I have a blog
dedicated to adware and virus removal suggestions and tips.If you feel
like checking it out feel free to do so.I recommend it, its at
http://ad-aware-tips.blogspot.com/.

Keeping your computer virus, spyware and adware free is a choice you
make every time your turn on or off your computer or surf the
internet. These bad guys on your computers can really make your use of
it a living hell. Done just stop using your computer or the internet
because of them because good should alway triumph over evil.

 

[Leythos]

I believe many of the problem we are facing today as a result of virus
and adware is as a result of poor protection

Actually, since the problem is really ignorance, people not thinking
about what they've been told for at least the last 10 years, you can't
really solve it until it actually causes them PAIN.

People are generally lazy - they are not going to do anything until they
are forced to do it - once their laziness causes them money or pain they
will make an attempt to learn enough to protect their systems.

--
Leythos - (e-mail address removed) (remove 999 to email me)

Fight exposing kids to porn, complain about sites like PCBUTTS1.COM that
create filth and put it on the web for any kid to see: Just take a look
at some of the FILTH he's created and put on his website:
http://forums.speedguide.net/archive/index.php/t-223485.html all exposed
to children (the link I've include does not directly display his filth).
You can find the same information by googling for 'PCBUTTS1' and
'exposed to kids'.

 

[Potblak]

Your timing is impeccable!
Your message yesterday, and today, in my mailbox, the following helpful
advice. (NOT)
Quote;
Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-4848

Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (8970173003)

Published: September 9, 2007

Version: 2.0

Summary

Who should read this document: Customers who use Microsoft Windows

Impact of Vulnerability: Remote Code Execution

Maximum Severity Rating: Critical

Recommendation: Customers should apply the update immediately.

Security Update Replacement: This bulletin replaces several prior security
updates. See the frequently asked questions (FAQ) section of this bulletin
for the complete list.

Internet Explorer for Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 - <Hyperlink to
oblivion!>

Revisions:

V1.0 (September 9, 2007): Bulletin published

 

[Alfred Einstein]

Actually, since the problem is really ignorance, people not thinking
about what they've been told for at least the last 10 years, you can't
really solve it until it actually causes them PAIN.

People are generally lazy - they are not going to do anything until they
are forced to do it - once their laziness causes them money or pain they
will make an attempt to learn enough to protect their systems.

It's not laziness. Poor quality products with poor security are to blame.

 

[Leythos]

It's not laziness. Poor quality products with poor security are to blame.

Yea, as every system can be exploited, it's only the lazy that don't
protect their system. All of major paths/exploits are known and they
have documented means to block/protect - if you can't do that little bit
of work then you're lazy (not you specifically, the people that get
hacked are the ones I'm talking about).

--
Leythos - (e-mail address removed) (remove 999 to email me)

Fight exposing kids to porn, complain about sites like pcbutts1 that
create filth and put it on the web for any kid to see: Just take a look
at some of the FILTH he's created and put on his website:
http://forums.speedguide.net/archive/index.php/t-223485.html all exposed
to children (the link I've include does not directly display his filth).
You can find the same information by googling for 'PCBUTTS1' and
'exposed to kids'.

 

[Alfred Einstein]

Yea, as every system can be exploited, it's only the lazy that don't
protect their system. All of major paths/exploits are known and they
have documented means to block/protect - if you can't do that little bit
of work then you're lazy (not you specifically, the people that get
hacked are the ones I'm talking about).

No, they're not lazy. They've come to expect products to behave properly.

People don't expect to work for the computer. They expect the computer to
work for them. The need for virus protection breaks those expectations.

Other products don't require such forms of protection. But computers are
very poor in this respect.

 

[kurt wismer]

No, they're not lazy. They've come to expect products to behave properly.

People don't expect to work for the computer. They expect the computer to
work for them. The need for virus protection breaks those expectations.

Other products don't require such forms of protection. But computers are
very poor in this respect.

other products generally only have to take into account the possibility
of accidents, so they are gauged against safety standards...

in the case of computers you unfortunately have to deal with intelligent
opponents (malware isn't naturally occurring) and intelligent opponents
are such that no matter how many avenues of attack you close they will
just find more... for this reason, computer security cannot be
considered comparable to conventional product safety or quality which
deal with controllable (or at least predictable) conditions...

 

[foghollow]

Other products don't require such forms of protection. But computers are
very poor in this respect.

Do you lock your car, close the windows, put valuables out of sight in the trunk?
And your house?

 

[Leythos]

No, they're not lazy. They've come to expect products to behave properly.

People don't expect to work for the computer. They expect the computer to
work for them. The need for virus protection breaks those expectations.

Other products don't require such forms of protection. But computers are
very poor in this respect.

Face it, in the last 10 years ever MEDIA OUTLET has brought news of
malware and viruses to the public. It's in stores in bright bold colors.
It's on zillions of websites. It's talked about at work because people
have been compromised....

The only reason not to protect a machine is being Lazy.

--
Leythos - (e-mail address removed) (remove 999 to email me)

Fight exposing kids to porn, complain about sites like pcbutts1 that
create filth and put it on the web for any kid to see: Just take a look
at some of the FILTH he's created and put on his website:
http://forums.speedguide.net/archive/index.php/t-223485.html all exposed
to children (the link I've include does not directly display his filth).
You can find the same information by googling for 'PCBUTTS1' and
'exposed to kids'.

 

[Alfred Einstein]

Do you lock your car, close the windows, put valuables out of sight in the
trunk?
And your house?

Yes, I do. So did my father. And his father. And everyone else did, too.
Theives are and were a well-known threat. And doors and windows are a
well-known vulnerability. Those things have changed little over the
centuries.

But in the computer, the thieves are non-obvious. The threats are invisible.
The vulnerabilities are, for most, non-obvious. And everything changes year
by year. It's not easy for most people to learn it and keep up with it.

People don't get better, not even over a span of a thousand years.

So the products should be better. Sure, that's a hollow wish. But the fault
lies with lame equipment, not with lame people.

 

[foghollow]

Yes, I do. So did my father. And his father. And everyone else did, too.
Theives are and were a well-known threat. And doors and windows are a
well-known vulnerability. Those things have changed little over the
centuries.

But in the computer, the thieves are non-obvious. The threats are invisible.
The vulnerabilities are, for most, non-obvious. And everything changes year
by year. It's not easy for most people to learn it and keep up with it.

But it's in the news regularly. I don't think I know anybody who hasn't either had or known
somebody who had trouble with malware. It's literally common knowledge.

People don't get better, not even over a span of a thousand years.

So the products should be better. Sure, that's a hollow wish. But the fault
lies with lame equipment, not with lame people.

Well, of course, we never had this trouble with star networks on mainframes. But that was before
there was an internet, really. I agree that Windows is basically not very good - Vista may be better,
but there are security patches out already, so maybe not. There's always Linux...
But whatever you build into the software, certain stuff has to be openable to be able to admin the
OS. And that will always create a door that the user chooses to leave open or not.

 

[Mumia W.]

[...]
So the products should be better. Sure, that's a hollow wish. But the fault
lies with lame equipment, not with lame people.

Well, of course, we never had this trouble with star networks on mainframes. But that was before
there was an internet, really. I agree that Windows is basically not very good - Vista may be better,
but there are security patches out already, so maybe not. There's always Linux [...]

Yes, there is always Linux, but the majority of phishing sites are
hosted on hacked Linux machines:

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/05/1234217&from=rss

It seems that a large number of phishers have decided to prove that
security partly a function of the degree to which people attack something.