Helvetic font

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On many web site they use Helvetica web font. Which I found pretty neat and would like to use in my WinForm app (as opposed to WebForm).
But here, puzzle, the Helvetica doesn't appear in the Font chooser in the VS.NET designer!

Whhy is that?
What kind of standart font cold I use as a replacement?
I don't dare choose any font as I have heaps of font installed with Corel Draw, but I think end user won't have the same as me!
 
Helvetica is a font usually found on Mac's. Arial is the Windows version. When building a web page, you should specify at least 2 fonts to attempt to use in case one of them is not present on the client machine. Usually, one of these fonts would be a font certain to be found on a Windows PC (like Arial) and one would be a font certain to be found on a Mac (like Helvetica) since 99.9 % of all Internet users are on one of these platforms.
On many web site they use Helvetica web font. Which I found pretty neat and would like to use in my WinForm app (as opposed to WebForm).
But here, puzzle, the Helvetica doesn't appear in the Font chooser in the VS.NET designer!

Whhy is that?
What kind of standart font cold I use as a replacement?
I don't dare choose any font as I have heaps of font installed with Corel Draw, but I think end user won't have the same as me!
 
Helvetica is obsolete.

Tahoma or Verdanna are better fonts for screen display of web pages,
Helvetica is a font usually found on Mac's. Arial is the Windows version. When building a web page, you should specify at least 2 fonts to attempt to use in case one of them is not present on the client machine. Usually, one of these fonts would be a font certain to be found on a Windows PC (like Arial) and one would be a font certain to be found on a Mac (like Helvetica) since 99.9 % of all Internet users are on one of these platforms.
On many web site they use Helvetica web font. Which I found pretty neat and would like to use in my WinForm app (as opposed to WebForm).
But here, puzzle, the Helvetica doesn't appear in the Font chooser in the VS.NET designer!

Whhy is that?
What kind of standart font cold I use as a replacement?
I don't dare choose any font as I have heaps of font installed with Corel Draw, but I think end user won't have the same as me!
 
Heck, I'm no expert on fonts, but AFAIK you can use Arial instead.

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On many web site they use Helvetica web font. Which I found pretty neat and
would like to use in my WinForm app (as opposed to WebForm).
But here, puzzle, the Helvetica doesn't appear in the Font chooser in the
VS.NET designer!

Whhy is that?
What kind of standart font cold I use as a replacement?
I don't dare choose any font as I have heaps of font installed with Corel
Draw, but I think end user won't have the same as me!
 
I prefer to specify generic font-families only like 'serifa', 'sans-serif',
etc. When doing so the browser will pick the font selected by the user, on
Windows systems Arial for 'sans-serif', if this preverence is untouched.
 
Uh no, it's not. If you read the post that you replied to, you'd know that Helvetica is used on the Mac platform and that in the Windows world, Arial is its counterpart (and last time I checked, Arial was used widely).

Tahoma and Verdana are fonts that you would only have if you have MS Office, they are not standard with the Windows OS. For this reason, it is a VERY good idea to NOT use them in web pages since not all Windows users will have them and it is certain that Mac users won't have them either.


Helvetica is obsolete.

Tahoma or Verdanna are better fonts for screen display of web pages,
Helvetica is a font usually found on Mac's. Arial is the Windows version. When building a web page, you should specify at least 2 fonts to attempt to use in case one of them is not present on the client machine. Usually, one of these fonts would be a font certain to be found on a Windows PC (like Arial) and one would be a font certain to be found on a Mac (like Helvetica) since 99.9 % of all Internet users are on one of these platforms.
On many web site they use Helvetica web font. Which I found pretty neat and would like to use in my WinForm app (as opposed to WebForm).
But here, puzzle, the Helvetica doesn't appear in the Font chooser in the VS.NET designer!

Whhy is that?
What kind of standart font cold I use as a replacement?
I don't dare choose any font as I have heaps of font installed with Corel Draw, but I think end user won't have the same as me!
 
Scott M. said:
Tahoma and Verdana are fonts that you would only have if you have MS
Office,
they are not standard with the Windows OS. For this reason, it is a VERY
good
idea to NOT use them in web pages since not all Windows users will have
them
and it is certain that Mac users won't have them either.
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At least Windows 2000, Windows XP, and Windows Server 2003 professional make
use of Tahoma extensively and thus contain this font. I assume that this is
also the case for Verdana. Thus a vast majority of users have these fonts
on their machines and it's relatively safe to use them. In addition to
that, CSS supports specification of fallback fonts.
 
Herfried K. Wagner said:
At least Windows 2000, Windows XP, and Windows Server 2003 professional make
use of Tahoma extensively and thus contain this font. I assume that this is
also the case for Verdana. Thus a vast majority of users have these fonts
on their machines and it's relatively safe to use them. In addition to
that, CSS supports specification of fallback fonts.
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Verdana also comes with IE 4, IE 5, Windows 98, Windows 98SE, in addition to
the products cited above.
MacIntosh is less than 3% of the PC market.

From MS web site:

"The Verdana typeface family consists of four TrueType fonts created
specifically to address the challenges of on-screen display. "

"The Verdana fonts exhibit characteristics derived from the pixel rather
than the pen, the brush or the chisel. The relationship between straight,
curved and diagonal strokes has been painstakingly developed to ensure that
the pixel patterns at small sizes are pleasing, clear and legible. Commonly
confused characters, such as the lowercase i j l, the uppercase I J L and
the numeral 1 have been carefully drawn for maximum distinctiveness - an
important characteristic of fonts designed for on-screen use. And the
various weights in the typeface family have been designed to create
sufficient contrast from one another ensuring, for example, that the bold
font is heavy enough even at sizes as small as 8 ppem. "
 
Verdana also comes with IE 4, IE 5, Windows 98, Windows 98SE, in addition
to
the products cited above.
MacIntosh is less than 3% of the PC market.
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And, as I said, not all users will have IE and/or Windows. Regardless of
how many people use Mac's, not everyone does and thus, it isn't a wise
choice to build a page based on a font that some won't have. This is also
why I said that at least 2 fonts should be specified to satisfy situations
where the first is not available.
 
BTW, as I said it was for a WinForm application (a desktop application if
you like), hehe...
I was mentioning web site, because I found Verdana on the web on found it
good looking.
Well I just choosed Arial for my TransparentTextBox and it's not to bad ;)
 
Lloyd Dupont said:
BTW, as I said it was for a WinForm application (a desktop application if
you like), hehe...
I was mentioning web site, because I found Verdana on the web on found it
good looking.
Well I just choosed Arial for my TransparentTextBox and it's not to bad ;)
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I suggest to use "Microsoft Shell Dlg"/"Microsoft Sans Serif" or Tahoma for
Windows Forms because these fonts are used in most other applications too.
 
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