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Downloaded Windows Defender. Wanting to put startup icon on desktop.
However, no can do. When I go to start, programs, the program is not listed.
I can only find the program on the tray at the bottom.
 
Also: When I close the program...it disappars from the startup tray at
bottom. Then I can't access it at all. What's going on?
 
Can you open it up from the tray?
If you can go to tools-or options-can't remember which cuz I don't use
it anymore;but under tools/options theyre should be general settings;that is
where you need to go. About 3/4 way down there will be an area to show the
icon all the time
Jeff
 
Thanks much, Jeff. Found the option. Two questions:
1. Can I actually put the program icon on the desktop...I could with the
program's predecessor: Microsoft Anti-Spyware.
2. Why don't you use it?
 
Kent P. said:
Also: When I close the program...it disappars from the startup tray at
bottom. Then I can't access it at all. What's going on?
Click to expand...


I start the Defender UI by putting this command in Start | Run:
"C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MSASCui.exe"
 
1) yes-just create a shortcut to it.
2) A myriad of reasons-most of which;do not apply to Defender itself. Except
for ONE major point-MS has decided that cookies are not spyware-and won't
even attempt to address the issue; so I choose to use other programs; that
will and DO look for spyware-such as Lavasoft's AdAware and not to mention;
McAfee just offered a free trial for it's new anti-spyware; which at this
point I am VERY happy with. It-unlike Defender;does pretty much the same
thing as MSAS did before MS butchered it. You still have control over what
areas of your p.c. that you would like to have it watch;like MSAS did and
Defender does-with one important distinction from Defender; you have access
to it's logs. You can see what it does in detail;instead of just a generic
"no problems found" It has real time protection,the abilty to scan for
cookies; scan time schedule,log detail etc. All in all; pretty much the same
as MSAS did. And at this point; being it's a free trial-great. But I would
still pay for it-over "free" Defender.
You asked, LOL
Jeff
 
Hey Jeff,

Question; Why would you want to scan for cookies after they've been written
to the PC when you could simply block them in the first place using Internet
Explorer?

The point behind cookies is to monitor your activities while you are
browsing, so the 'spying' occurs while you are using the browser. By the time
you get around to scanning and deleting cookies using an anti-spyware
application, the damage has already been done, so it's pointless. This is why
it was removed from Defender.

Another reason is that Internet Explorer 6 added the ability to 'block'
cookies before they are written, with a separate selection for Third-party
(Tracking or Data Miner) cookies. You can choose to block all Third-party
cookies which don't affect access to sites and then either Allow, Block or
Prompt for First-Party cookies which do.

In my case, I chose to Block all Third-party and Prompt for First-party
which allows me to pick which sites save cookies. That way I usually only get
one cookie request at a new site, generally block them or allow if I might
want to use either password, configuration, shopping-cart, or other features
at a site I trust. After all, that's what cookies are really for.

These settings are in the Internet Options, Privacy, Advanced button screen.
The Privacy, Web sites, Edit button displays the Per Site Privacy Actions
list with your previous 'permanent' site selections, which allows you to
remove or change them easily if needed.

I haven't had a single cookie detected by any antispyware application since
making these changes over a year ago. If you don't believe me, look at this
page on the Spybot Search & Destroy site where the Spybot Team, including
Patrick Kolla who develops the program, explain why they've quit adding large
numbers of cookie detections and suggest exactly the same for several
different popular browsers.

http://spybot.safer-networking.de/en/faq/37.html

Bitman
 
Jeff..

That's it...I can't create a shortcut. Right clicking on the icon doesn't
give me that option..or an option to "copy". Any suggestions?
 
Trying to create a shortcut on desktop. Program doesn't appear under:
start...programs. I may have more programs than it will show. Anybody know
how:

1. I can get a full listing of programs?
2. More importantly ..how to creat a shortcut since I can't "find" the
program. Also, it won't allow me to creat a shortcut via the icon on the
tray.

Thanks much..
 
Ah,
True,
Jeff
Bitman said:
Hey Jeff,

Question; Why would you want to scan for cookies after they've been
written
to the PC when you could simply block them in the first place using
Internet
Explorer?

The point behind cookies is to monitor your activities while you are
browsing, so the 'spying' occurs while you are using the browser. By the
time
you get around to scanning and deleting cookies using an anti-spyware
application, the damage has already been done, so it's pointless. This is
why
it was removed from Defender.

Another reason is that Internet Explorer 6 added the ability to 'block'
cookies before they are written, with a separate selection for Third-party
(Tracking or Data Miner) cookies. You can choose to block all Third-party
cookies which don't affect access to sites and then either Allow, Block or
Prompt for First-Party cookies which do.

In my case, I chose to Block all Third-party and Prompt for First-party
which allows me to pick which sites save cookies. That way I usually only
get
one cookie request at a new site, generally block them or allow if I might
want to use either password, configuration, shopping-cart, or other
features
at a site I trust. After all, that's what cookies are really for.

These settings are in the Internet Options, Privacy, Advanced button
screen.
The Privacy, Web sites, Edit button displays the Per Site Privacy Actions
list with your previous 'permanent' site selections, which allows you to
remove or change them easily if needed.

I haven't had a single cookie detected by any antispyware application
since
making these changes over a year ago. If you don't believe me, look at
this
page on the Spybot Search & Destroy site where the Spybot Team, including
Patrick Kolla who develops the program, explain why they've quit adding
large
numbers of cookie detections and suggest exactly the same for several
different popular browsers.

http://spybot.safer-networking.de/en/faq/37.html

Bitman
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Kent P. said:
Trying to create a shortcut on desktop. Program doesn't appear under:
start...programs. I may have more programs than it will show. Anybody
know
how:

1. I can get a full listing of programs?
2. More importantly ..how to creat a shortcut since I can't "find" the
program. Also, it won't allow me to creat a shortcut via the icon on the
tray.
Click to expand...


Defender put a shortcut on my Start Menu. Move the cursor to the very
bottom of the list and see if it scrolls up.

Frank Saunders, MS-MVP
http://www.fjsmjs.com
 
Or simply use Windows Explorer or My computer, navigate to C:\Program
Files\Windows Defender

Depress right mouse button on the file MSASCui.exe, drag to desktop, release
mouse button, click create shortcut here. You can rename the shortcut to
Windows Defender if you wish.
 
PERFECT. THANKS SO MUCH.
--
k.p.


JRosenfeld said:
Or simply use Windows Explorer or My computer, navigate to C:\Program
Files\Windows Defender

Depress right mouse button on the file MSASCui.exe, drag to desktop, release
mouse button, click create shortcut here. You can rename the shortcut to
Windows Defender if you wish.
Click to expand...
 
If you've downloaded the most current release (you can tell because the
Tools | Settings button is now Tools | Options),
Microsoft has added an option to keep Defender Icon displayed in system
tray.

You can also right click on C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MSASCui.exe
and select Pin to Start Menu.
It will place it on the top left section of the Start Menu.

You will not find Windows Defender in the Startup folder, because it has
been added to the System Run registry key and added to Windows Services.
 
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