Help with my pictures

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Suzanne

I always use a partitioned drive for my documents so that when I have to do a
re-install (it happens!) I don't lose any of my files. Well this morning I
did just that and everything went fine until I went to open my pictures and I
can not! I am getting the message, access denied. Please help....

Thanks!
 
Suzanne said:
I always use a partitioned drive for my documents so that when I
have to do a re-install (it happens!) I don't lose any of my files.
Well this morning I did just that and everything went fine until I
went to open my pictures and I can not! I am getting the message,
access denied. Please help....

No searching, I presume? ;-)

Ah well - hopefully this will help:

How to Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421

Read *carefully* - do not just skim the page and start following steps.
There is important information there dependent on the version of Windows XP.
 
I always use a partitioned drive for my documents


Note that you have the terminology wrong, because the terminology is a
little strange. Some people think that the term "partition" means to
divide the drive into two or more partitions. That's not correct: when
you partition a drive you create one or more partitions on it.

You have to have at least one partition on it to use a drive. Those
people who think they have an unpartitioned drive actually have a
drive with only a single partition on it, which is normally called C:.
The real choice is whether to have more than one partition, not
whether to partition at all, since every drive has to have one
partition.


so that when I have to do a
re-install (it happens!)


It should almost *never* happen that you have to reinstall, and if
does, you are doing something very much wrong.

In my view, it's usually a mistake. With a modicum of care, it should
never be necessary to reinstall Windows (XP or any other version).
I've run Windows 3.0, 3.1, WFWG 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows
2000, Windows XP, and now Windows Vista, each for the period of time
before the next version came out, and each on two or more machines
here. I never reinstalled any of them, and I have never had anything
more than an occasional minor problem.

It's my belief that this mistaken notion stems from the technical
support people at many of the larger OEMs. Their solution to almost
any problem they don't quickly know the answer to is "reformat and
reinstall." That's the perfect solution for them. It gets you off the
phone quickly, it almost always works, and it doesn't require them to
do any real troubleshooting (a skill that most of them obviously don't
possess in any great degree).

But it leaves you with all the work and all the problems. You have to
restore all your data backups, you have to reinstall all your
programs, you have to reinstall all the Windows and application
updates, you have to locate and install all the needed drivers for
your system, you have to recustomize Windows and all your apps to work
the way you're comfortable with.

Besides all those things being time-consuming and troublesome, you may
have trouble with some of them: can you find all your application CDs?
Can you find all the needed installation codes? Do you have data
backups to restore? Do you even remember all the customizations and
tweaks you may have installed to make everything work the way you
like? Occasionally there are problems that are so difficult to solve
that Windows should be reinstalled cleanly. But they are few and far
between; reinstallation should not be a substitute for
troubleshooting; it should be a last resort, to be done only after all
other attempts at troubleshooting by a qualified person have failed.

And perhaps most important: if you reformat and reinstall without
finding out what caused your problem, you will very likely repeat the
behavior that caused it, and quickly find yourself back in exactly the
same situation.

If you have problems, post the details of them here; it's likely that
someone can help you and a reinstallation won't be required.


I don't lose any of my files.


Personally, I think that's a very poor reason for having a second
partition. It suggests that you have no external backup of your data,
and that means you are *still* vulnerable to losing the entire drive
and everything to it to many of the most common dangers: severe power
glitches, nearby lightning strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the
computer.

Well this morning I
did just that and everything went fine until I went to open my pictures and I
can not! I am getting the message, access denied. Please help....


Is there an ownership problem? See "How to take ownership of a file or
folder in Windows XP"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421/en-us
 
Ken Blake said:
Note that you have the terminology wrong, because the terminology is a
little strange. Some people think that the term "partition" means to
divide the drive into two or more partitions. That's not correct: when
you partition a drive you create one or more partitions on it.

Umm, is that supposed to help anything? If you partition a drive and
create two partitions on it, then you have divided the drive into two
partitions. Maybe you're trying to say a partition isn 't a wall or
something, but it's a lot more like words for the sake of words. I
guess you were never a neophyte or a rank beginner, eh? Woof!
You have to have at least one partition on it to use a drive. Those
people who think they have an unpartitioned drive actually have a
drive with only a single partition on it, which is normally called C:.
The real choice is whether to have more than one partition, not
whether to partition at all, since every drive has to have one
partition.

I don't see where any of that is relevent to the OP's query and nothing
here comes anywhere close to a solution for the OP. If you're not going
to offer a solution, then you should offer nothing by not posting
instead of trying to show off your superiorority, as AB would put it.
Open your mind a crack and let some reality in for crying out loud.

Twayne
 
And if your hd fails then so will all your data.
You would'nt lose data if it was backed up either.
It depends how you moved your docs to the other partition, as to how you
'recover'
 
Twayne said:
Umm, is that supposed to help anything? If you partition a drive and
create two partitions on it, then you have divided the drive into two
partitions. Maybe you're trying to say a partition isn 't a wall or
something, but it's a lot more like words for the sake of words. I
guess you were never a neophyte or a rank beginner, eh? Woof!


I don't see where any of that is relevent to the OP's query and
nothing here comes anywhere close to a solution for the OP. If
you're not going to offer a solution, then you should offer nothing
by not posting instead of trying to show off your superiorority, as
AB would put it. Open your mind a crack and let some reality in for
crying out loud.
Twayne

Oh boy, another member of the school of "Answer the question as posed and
leave it at that. Don't try to give more background, don't help out with
terminology, don't you dare try to educate the OP (thus helping them past
being a "neophyte or rank beginner") otherwise I'll start insulting you."
It's not as if Ken didn't even answer the question - and he certainly helped
the OP more than you did. What an arrogant, opinionated arse you are.

<snip>
 
Note that you have the terminology wrong, because the terminology is a
little strange. Some people think that the term "partition" means to
divide the drive into two or more partitions. That's not correct: when
you partition a drive you create one or more partitions on it.

You have to have at least one partition on it to use a drive. Those
people who think they have an unpartitioned drive actually have a
drive with only a single partition on it, which is normally called C:.
The real choice is whether to have more than one partition, not
whether to partition at all, since every drive has to have one
partition.


It should almost *never* happen that you have to reinstall, and if
does, you are doing something very much wrong.

In my view, it's usually a mistake. With a modicum of care, it should
never be necessary to reinstall Windows (XP or any other version).
I've run Windows 3.0, 3.1, WFWG 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows
2000, Windows XP, and now Windows Vista, each for the period of time
before the next version came out, and each on two or more machines
here. I never reinstalled any of them, and I have never had anything
more than an occasional minor problem.

It's my belief that this mistaken notion stems from the technical
support people at many of the larger OEMs. Their solution to almost
any problem they don't quickly know the answer to is "reformat and
reinstall." That's the perfect solution for them. It gets you off the
phone quickly, it almost always works, and it doesn't require them to
do any real troubleshooting (a skill that most of them obviously don't
possess in any great degree).

But it leaves you with all the work and all the problems. You have to
restore all your data backups, you have to reinstall all your
programs, you have to reinstall all the Windows and application
updates, you have to locate and install all the needed drivers for
your system, you have to recustomize Windows and all your apps to work
the way you're comfortable with.

Besides all those things being time-consuming and troublesome, you may
have trouble with some of them: can you find all your application CDs?
Can you find all the needed installation codes? Do you have data
backups to restore? Do you even remember all the customizations and
tweaks you may have installed to make everything work the way you
like? Occasionally there are problems that are so difficult to solve
that Windows should be reinstalled cleanly. But they are few and far
between; reinstallation should not be a substitute for
troubleshooting; it should be a last resort, to be done only after all
other attempts at troubleshooting by a qualified person have failed.

And perhaps most important: if you reformat and reinstall without
finding out what caused your problem, you will very likely repeat the
behavior that caused it, and quickly find yourself back in exactly the
same situation.

If you have problems, post the details of them here; it's likely that
someone can help you and a reinstallation won't be required.


Personally, I think that's a very poor reason for having a second
partition. It suggests that you have no external backup of your data,
and that means you are *still* vulnerable to losing the entire drive
and everything to it to many of the most common dangers: severe power
glitches, nearby lightning strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the
computer.


Is there an ownership problem? See "How to take ownership of a file or
folder in Windows XP"http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421/en-us

"Note that you have the terminology wrong, because the terminology is
a
little strange. Some people think that the term "partition" means to
divide the drive into two or more partitions. That's not correct: when
you partition a drive you create one or more partitions on it. "
A hdd unpartitoned is just that...a hdd. NOT a partition. A WHOLE
ENTIRE hdd. THEN after a partition has been created it has been
divided into TWO (equal or unequal) partition S. Simple English
grammar and math.
 
Oh boy, another member of the school of "Answer the question as posed and
leave it at that. Don't try to give more background, don't help out with
terminology, don't you dare try to educate the OP (thus helping them past
being a "neophyte or rank beginner") otherwise I'll start insulting you."
It's not as if Ken didn't even answer the question - and he certainly helped
the OP more than you did. What an arrogant, opinionated arse you are.

<snip>

That makes TWO of us as I agree with Twayne as far as using "words for
words sake" here.
That spiele about one/two/whatever partitions etc was totally useless
(and misleading to my mind) info for the OP. I think you, Oilyrin, are
doing the arse-creeping bit here. Read, learn and shut the F*** up.
 
"Note that you have the terminology wrong, because the terminology is
a
little strange. Some people think that the term "partition" means to
divide the drive into two or more partitions. That's not correct: when
you partition a drive you create one or more partitions on it. "
A hdd unpartitoned is just that...a hdd. NOT a partition.


That is correct.

A WHOLE
ENTIRE hdd. THEN after a partition has been created it has been
divided into TWO (equal or unequal) partition S. Simple English
grammar and math.


That may be simple, but it is *not* correct. A drive can have a single
partition on it, and to partition a drive is to create one or more
partitions on it.
 
sandy58 said:
"Note that you have the terminology wrong, because the terminology is
a
little strange. Some people think that the term "partition" means to
divide the drive into two or more partitions. That's not correct: when
you partition a drive you create one or more partitions on it. "
A hdd unpartitoned is just that...a hdd. NOT a partition. A WHOLE
ENTIRE hdd. THEN after a partition has been created it has been
divided into TWO (equal or unequal) partition S. Simple English
grammar and math.

I agree with Ken... Ok so take your blank hard drive and try installing
Windows on it. You'll do fine up until it asks you to which partition
you would like to install Windows to. If it doesn't find any it will
give you the option to (c)reate a partition. You then have the choice
to make the partition use the entire hard drive, or just a portion of it.
 
sandy58 said:
That makes TWO of us as I agree with Twayne as far as using "words for
words sake" here.
That spiele about one/two/whatever partitions etc was totally useless
(and misleading to my mind) info for the OP. I think you, Oilyrin, are
doing the arse-creeping bit here. Read, learn and shut the F*** up.

Just revisited this thread...

Sandy58, what precisely is it you'd like me to learn? Is it that when you
partition an unpartitioned HDD it *will* result in two partitions, as you
maintain? Is it that you can install Windows on an unpartitioned disk
without partitioning it? (Yes, I'd like to see your response to Roy Smith's
post in this thread.) Are you the same "sandy58" who, in another group, has
opined that you can reset a Windows password by briefly removing the CMOS
battery? And that if that doesn't work, the next step is for the user to
wipe and reinstall Windows even though they said they don't want to except
as a last resort? It would be consistent.

As I said, Ken answered the question, and also brought some correction on
terminology. When he was shot down for it, it annoyed me so I chipped in.
Call it "arse-creeping" if you really feel the need to join the ranks of the
insulters. And why the need for the bad language?

Feel free to treat those questions as rhetorical if it helps.
 
I agree with Ken... Ok so take your blank hard drive and try installing
Windows on it.  You'll do fine up until it asks you to which partition
you would like to install Windows to.  If it doesn't find any it will
give you the option to (c)reate a partition.  You then have the choice
to make the partition use the entire hard drive, or just a portion of it.

Correct, Roy Smith. This idea of calling the working area of a hard
drive a "partition" is a bad choice of wordplay at best. At worst is
just plain misleading. A room with a partition erected is now one of
two "partitions"? So why call the original "space" a room in the first
place? Just call the thing a partition. HuH? Semantics. How in hell
that spiel helped the OP in any way what-so-ever beats me.
 
sandy58 said:
Correct, Roy Smith. This idea of calling the working area of a hard
drive a "partition" is a bad choice of wordplay at best.

But this "wordplay" wasn't Ken's "idea", for crying out loud!
At worst is
just plain misleading. A room with a partition erected is now one of
two "partitions"? So why call the original "space" a room in the first
place? Just call the thing a partition. HuH? Semantics.

Exactly. Trouble is, we're not talking about rooms, and in the semantics of
computer hard drives, "partition" isn't the word used for some barrier that
you put up. Words can mean slightly different things in different contexts.
This is what has, totally understandably, misled the OP.
How in hell
that spiel helped the OP in any way what-so-ever beats me.

It was education. Not a direct answer to the question (which Ken also
provided), no, but it may help OP and others not suffer from the
"misleading" that you still are.
 
But this "wordplay" wasn't Ken's "idea", for crying out loud!


Exactly. Trouble is, we're not talking about rooms, and in the semantics of
computer hard drives, "partition" isn't the word used for some barrier that
you put up. Words can mean slightly different things in different contexts.
This is what has, totally understandably, misled the OP.


It was education. Not a direct answer to the question (which Ken also
provided), no, but it may help OP and others not suffer from the
"misleading" that you still are.

Jeez, what a tosser. All that long-winded diatribe about hdd's having/
being a partition at birth........WTF did the OP learn from THAT
crap.....other than learn NOT to post here if an understandable answer
is required. All the poor soul wanted was to recover her "lost"
photographs........did you both think she got a serious answer? Bog
right off. You should stick to microsoft.public.windowsxp.games. More
in your line, cleverclogs. :-)
 
sandy58 wrote:
Well this morning I
did just that and everything went fine until I went to open my
pictures and I can not! I am getting the message, access denied.
Please help....
Is there an ownership problem? See "How to take ownership of a
file or folder in Windows
XP"http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421/en-us
a direct answer to the question (which Ken also provided)
All the poor soul wanted was to recover her "lost" photographs........did
you both think she got a serious answer?

Yes, she did; were you unable to read it? Here:

"Is there an ownership problem? See "How to take ownership of a file or
folder in Windows XP" http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421/en-us"

And she didn't say they were lost and in need of recovery, just
inaccessible. Your imprecision is less excusable than the OP's.

<snip> that, along with all your other puerile, puzzling invective.
 
But this "wordplay" wasn't Ken's "idea", for crying out loud!


Thanks for the kind "words."

Exactly. Trouble is, we're not talking about rooms, and in the semantics of
computer hard drives, "partition" isn't the word used for some barrier that
you put up. Words can mean slightly different things in different contexts.
This is what has, totally understandably, misled the OP.


Yes. Using technical words in non-standard ways very often gets people
into trouble. If you read the instructions for using a program like
"Partition Magic," and you don't know what's meant by the word
"partition," you can very easily make the wrong choices.
 
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