Help with AVG

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Why is so hard to update AVG? Well anyway it is hard for me. The link to
update won't work. Have to find where the update is then unzip and
figure how to use it. Any good unstructions how to do it? Better yet
another freeware antivirus that has an update that works the way it should.
L.D.
 
L.D. said:
Why is so hard to update AVG? Well anyway it is hard for me. The link to
update won't work. Have to find where the update is then unzip and
figure how to use it. Any good unstructions how to do it? Better yet
another freeware antivirus that has an update that works the way it should.
L.D.
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I got this from another forum:

Copy the url.ini file to create a backup. Then open the original url.ini
file and put the following into it:

[SERVER_NAME]
1=free.grisoft.cz
2=ftp.grisoft.com
3=www.grisoft.com

[SERVER_URL]
1=http://free.grisoft.cz/softw/60/fe
2=ftp.grisoft.com/pub/softw/60/fe/
3=http://www.grisoft.com/softw/60/fe/
Actual URL=2


Then save and restart.

Rach
 
sabato 10/apr/2004 _L.D._ ha scritto:
Better yet
another freeware antivirus that has an update that works the way it should.
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Then go with Avast!
I'm on dialup and every update takes about 10-15 seconds.
 
MLC said:
sabato 10/apr/2004 _L.D._ ha scritto:




Then go with Avast!
I'm on dialup and every update takes about 10-15 seconds.
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I just went to Avast.
I changed the url.ini files in AVG and the only thing that changes was I
had 3 sites that it said it couldn't connect to instead of 1.
L.D.
 
Why is so hard to update AVG? Well anyway it is hard for me. The link
to update won't work. Have to find where the update is then unzip and
figure how to use it. Any good unstructions how to do it? Better yet
another freeware antivirus that has an update that works the way it
should. L.D.
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I gave up on AVG and went with Avast, which works the way it should.
Checks for updates every 4 hours I think. You'll like it:
http://www.avast.com/
 
rach said:
L.D. said:
Why is so hard to update AVG? Well anyway it is hard for me. The link to
update won't work. Have to find where the update is then unzip and
figure how to use it. Any good unstructions how to do it? Better yet
another freeware antivirus that has an update that works the way it should.
L.D.
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I got this from another forum:

Copy the url.ini file to create a backup. Then open the original url.ini
file and put the following into it:

[SERVER_NAME]
1=free.grisoft.cz
2=ftp.grisoft.com
3=www.grisoft.com

[SERVER_URL]
1=http://free.grisoft.cz/softw/60/fe
2=ftp.grisoft.com/pub/softw/60/fe/
3=http://www.grisoft.com/softw/60/fe/
Actual URL=2


Then save and restart.

Rach
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Just to add to Rach's good advice: use Notepad to open the url.ini file in
AVG. It's located in Program Files, Grisoft, AVG, Url.ini. Then either cut
and paste the following or just type in numbers 2, 3, and 4. At the end it
should read as follows:

Server_Name

1=free.grisoft.cz
2=ftp.grisoft.com
3=www.grisoft.com
4=akamai_grisoft

Server_Url

1=http://free.grisoft.cz/softw/60/fe
2=ftp.grisoft.com/pub/softw/60/fe
3=http://www.grisoft.com/softw/60/fe
4=http://www.grisoft.com/akm/softw/60/fe
Actual URL=4

Now you will have four servers to choose from and the akamai server is
almost always fast. The free AVG 6.0 has grown enormously in popularity
since the rave review in Maximum PC Magazine. Thus its servers are very
busy. The selection of extra servers should help. J
 
I gave up on AVG and went with Avast, which works the way it should.
Checks for updates every 4 hours I think. You'll like it:
http://www.avast.com/
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1. Avast requires Internet Explorer to operate. Some of us have decided to
just say "no" to Internet Explorer. Also, an AV program that is dependant
on such an undependable, insecure program would raise high alert to me from
the very beginning.

2. The "problems" with the AVG update is it's immense popularity and the
resulting constant hammering of the servers. Why no such problem with
Avast? It's just not very popular.

3. Anyone relying on constant, immediate updating of virus profiles hasn't
learned "safe computing" (how to make your box secure from the inside out)
and is relying solely on the AV for safety. In other words, you are ripe
for exploitation. Stop putting the cart before the horse. Once you learn
safe computing, your AV will merely be a safety net, as it should be to
begin with.
 
donutbandit said:
1. Avast requires Internet Explorer to operate. Some of us have decided to
just say "no" to Internet Explorer. Also, an AV program that is dependant
on such an undependable, insecure program would raise high alert to me from
the very beginning.
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Interesting. How does it rely on IE? I was not aware of this.
 
donutbandit said:
3. Anyone relying on constant, immediate updating of virus profiles hasn't
learned "safe computing" (how to make your box secure from the inside out)
and is relying solely on the AV for safety. In other words, you are ripe
for exploitation. Stop putting the cart before the horse. Once you learn
safe computing, your AV will merely be a safety net, as it should be to
begin with.
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Exactly. I agree 100%

Use a firewall like Kerio 2.15. Use a good web browser with restrictions
on file formats and restricted javascript features, like Opera 7.23.
Use mail and news programs which do not open anything automatically.

Put all downloaded files in a special folder and use a good virus
scanner on them before moving them to another folder with checked
downloads and before using them.
I use Fprot for DOS, free, fast and easy to use.

Check now and then what processes are going on in the computer with a
process explorer, (I do this several times every day), and check what
programs are autostarting with a suitable program like autoruns.exe.
Delete everything which is not absolutely necessary.

Use a partition saving program to back up your operating system and the
most important programs on the C: partition once a month or so.

If you follow these simple rules there is no need to have anti-virus
programs running all the time, slowing down your computer and causing
problems by themselves. And there is no need to update your virus
definitions very often.
 
Roger said:
donutbandit wrote:




Exactly. I agree 100%

Use a firewall like Kerio 2.15. Use a good web browser with restrictions
on file formats and restricted javascript features, like Opera 7.23.
Use mail and news programs which do not open anything automatically.

Put all downloaded files in a special folder and use a good virus
scanner on them before moving them to another folder with checked
downloads and before using them.
I use Fprot for DOS, free, fast and easy to use.

Check now and then what processes are going on in the computer with a
process explorer, (I do this several times every day), and check what
programs are autostarting with a suitable program like autoruns.exe.
Delete everything which is not absolutely necessary.

Use a partition saving program to back up your operating system and the
most important programs on the C: partition once a month or so.

If you follow these simple rules there is no need to have anti-virus
programs running all the time, slowing down your computer and causing
problems by themselves. And there is no need to update your virus
definitions very often.
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I do agree with not totally relying on an AV. However when I do use one,
it should work as it is supposed to. If it doesn't, like updates being
nearly impossible to get, it makes me wonder if the rest of it is doing
it's job. Other words using AV is kinda like wearing a belt and a pair
of supenders. Either does a good job but if you have both you have less
chance of your paints falling.
 
1. Avast requires Internet Explorer to operate. Some of us have
decided to just say "no" to Internet Explorer. Also, an AV program
that is dependant on such an undependable, insecure program would
raise high alert to me from the very beginning.

2. The "problems" with the AVG update is it's immense popularity and
the resulting constant hammering of the servers. Why no such problem
with Avast? It's just not very popular.

3. Anyone relying on constant, immediate updating of virus profiles
hasn't learned "safe computing" (how to make your box secure from the
inside out) and is relying solely on the AV for safety. In other
words, you are ripe for exploitation. Stop putting the cart before the
horse. Once you learn safe computing, your AV will merely be a safety
net, as it should be to begin with.
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Personally I use Norton here. I tried both Avast and AVG and neither one
worked properly with Outlook. I run Outlook minimized 24 hours a day and
after several hours both AVG and Avast would "clog up" my email, both
incoming and outgoing. No such problems with Norton. So Norton may be
somewhat bloated, but it works, and that's what I care about.

I had Avast on another machine here and just couldn't get it to update, for
weeks. So I gave up and went to Avast, which works fine for that machine.

I've said "no" to IE also, and use Mozilla here. However that doesn't mean
that I've uninstalled IE. I just don't use it unless I have to.

I think you just like to argue...
 
I do agree with not totally relying on an AV. However when I do use
one, it should work as it is supposed to. If it doesn't, like updates
being nearly impossible to get, it makes me wonder if the rest of it
is doing it's job. Other words using AV is kinda like wearing a belt
and a pair of supenders. Either does a good job but if you have both
you have less chance of your paints falling.
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Right.. There really is no excuse for not being able to get updates.
Especially after weeks and weeks of trying. That's a signal that it's time
to get another AV product...
 
donutbandit said:
1. Avast requires Internet Explorer to operate. Some of us have decided to
just say "no" to Internet Explorer. Also, an AV program that is dependant
on such an undependable, insecure program would raise high alert to me from
the very beginning.

2. The "problems" with the AVG update is it's immense popularity and the
resulting constant hammering of the servers. Why no such problem with
Avast? It's just not very popular.

3. Anyone relying on constant, immediate updating of virus profiles hasn't
learned "safe computing" (how to make your box secure from the inside out)
and is relying solely on the AV for safety. In other words, you are ripe
for exploitation. Stop putting the cart before the horse. Once you learn
safe computing, your AV will merely be a safety net, as it should be to
begin with.
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Another bad thing about AVG is the complete lack of support for the free
version. If you have a problem with the free version, try getting
anyone to listen to you. Good luck..
 
L.D. said:
Why is so hard to update AVG? Well anyway it is hard for me. The link to
update won't work. Have to find where the update is then unzip and
figure how to use it. Any good unstructions how to do it? Better yet
another freeware antivirus that has an update that works the way it should.
L.D.
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Maybe it will go the way of InoculateIT PE real soon. Sounds like that's the
way they are headed.

Rach
 
Kerodo said:
should. >> Checks for updates every 4 hours I think. You'll like
it: >> http://www.avast.com/
Personally I use Norton here. I tried both Avast and AVG and neither
one worked properly with Outlook. I run Outlook minimized 24 hours a
day and after several hours both AVG and Avast would "clog up" my
email, both incoming and outgoing. No such problems with Norton. So
Norton may be somewhat bloated, but it works, and that's what I care
about.

I had Avast on another machine here and just couldn't get it to
update, for weeks. So I gave up and went to Avast, which works fine
for that machine.

I've said "no" to IE also, and use Mozilla here. However that
doesn't mean that I've uninstalled IE. I just don't use it unless I
have to.

I think you just like to argue...
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Well, the "four server" change in the url.ini has been posted here how
many times? Four, five times? Perhaps it's time to place a remark like
"Google is your friend" once more?

I use AVG with the changed ini file, and I have no complaints about the
updates at all, they all come in swiftly, even the bigger ones!

Another poster here marked that there is no support, that "they" won't
listen to you when you use the free version. This is not completely
true, Grisoft changed to "mini-updates" because users of the free
version made it clear to them that downloading a complete update every
time was too cumbersome (especially with the overloaded, slow server in
CZ), also the routine for the rescue disks was changed... because
people complained about it.

I wrote them once about a problem with AVG-Free and they did respond to
my eMail. Now, if you would say that the users of the free version
don't get as much of support response as those who pay for the program
then I would agree, but then... isn't support for a large number of
people very costly? Perhaps we should think of the free version of AVG
being "courtesy of Grisoft" and stop nagging about things!

To make it clear: I have no other connections to Grisoft than being a
very happy user of their free version of AVG, which caught many, many
viruses (especially lately).

Regards to the group
Dick
 
rach said:
Maybe it will go the way of InoculateIT PE real soon. Sounds like
that's the way they are headed.

Rach
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Hi Rach!

Any indications, or official statements by Grisoft representatives,
that would confirm this? Last year there was an issue of version 6 not
being free anymore as of a certain date (somewhere in September if I
recall correctly), yet it still functions and is still updated VERY
regularly...

I think AV vendors know too well the power of "word of mouth" (aka
"free advertizement"), and the Inoculate story should tell them that a
move like that would do the exact opposite to them (free NEGATIVE
advertizement :) ). I also think that - when someone makes a remark
like you did - you should be able to substanciate it, otherwise it's
"just a rumor"!

Regards
Dick
 
Well, the "four server" change in the url.ini has been posted here how
many times? Four, five times? Perhaps it's time to place a remark like
"Google is your friend" once more?

I use AVG with the changed ini file, and I have no complaints about the
updates at all, they all come in swiftly, even the bigger ones!
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Well, you're having better luck than I had then. Yes, I did try the
various servers and couldn't get any of them to work. Seemed like the
problem went on for several weeks too. Interestingly, some people seem to
have no problems with the updates and others do, so I'm not sure what was
going on. I even tried installing older versions of the program to see if
that made a difference, but it didn't. No matter what I did, I had no
luck. Oh well...
 
Try downloading the AVG updates later in the evening. I had problems
downloading them then I started doing it around 11:00PM. Haven't missed one
since.

D. W.
 
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