Help please, adding 2nd drive...

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Uncle Vinnie

Hello-

RE: HP Pavilion a1310n, using XP Home.

This PC came with a 200g hard drive - 190g as drive C- NTFS, the rest (10g)
as drive D recovery, Fat32.
This drive is SATA...

I have a 40g, 7200, ATA drive I tried adding on but for some odd reason boot
up is incredibly slow - a minute or so just to get to the Windows splash
screen...

I believe the jumpers are set right, as it had not booted at all. Also,
BIOS is set properly to recognize C as the boot drive..

Any ideas what may be slowing things down or where to double check...

I apologize for the cross-post as I am unsure where the issue lies... thank
you!
 
Perhaps the ATA drive is faulty?
How have you jumpered it?
What do you see in Disk Management - once PC has booted
 
Uncle said:
RE: HP Pavilion a1310n, using XP Home.

This PC came with a 200g hard drive - 190g as drive C- NTFS, the
rest (10g) as drive D recovery, Fat32.
This drive is SATA...

I have a 40g, 7200, ATA drive I tried adding on but for some odd
reason boot up is incredibly slow - a minute or so just to get
to the Windows splash screen...

I believe the jumpers are set right, as it had not booted at all.
Also, BIOS is set properly to recognize C as the boot drive..

Any ideas what may be slowing things down or where to double
check...

I apologize for the cross-post as I am unsure where the issue
lies... thank you!
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Then you should have set follow-ups to the one group that you will
monitor for replies. Not knowing where you posted from, I have
done so to a.c.h.

I doubt the jumpers are set correctly. You didn't bother to
specify the drive manufacturers, types, etc. and the jumper
settings on each. How do you know the bootup is slow? Maybe it
takes that long to do its memory check, which depends on how much
memory you have and how it is checked.

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$DRIFT ON

[Previous Followup-To: ignored.]

CBFalconer said:
Uncle said:
RE: HP Pavilion a1310n, using XP Home. [deleted]
I apologize for the cross-post as I am unsure where the issue
lies... thank you!
Click to expand...

Then you should have set follow-ups to the one group that you will
monitor for replies. Not knowing where you posted from, I have
done so to a.c.h.
Click to expand...

I (strongly) disagree! Readers should not have to subscribe to another
group, just because you happen to think it's more appropriate!

When posting a 'base' posting (i.e. starting a new thread), *that*
poster has the responsibility of selcting as few and as on-topic
groups as possible. *After* that decision has been made, it's only
reasonable to redirect if a group or a number of groups is/are totally
off-topic. Since that's clearly not the case here, your re-direct was
inappropriate.

$DRIFT OFF

[deleted]
 
Sorry it took this long to get back to you -

The 2000G is a Samsung SP2004C, set as Master.
The 40G is a WD Caviar, also set as Master.

The reason I set them as Master, is because they are each on their own
'cable' or channel...

Is this incorrect?

--
B'rgds,

Vinnie
Frank Slootweg said:
$DRIFT ON

[Previous Followup-To: ignored.]

CBFalconer said:
Uncle said:
RE: HP Pavilion a1310n, using XP Home. [deleted]
I apologize for the cross-post as I am unsure where the issue
lies... thank you!
Click to expand...

Then you should have set follow-ups to the one group that you will
monitor for replies. Not knowing where you posted from, I have
done so to a.c.h.
Click to expand...

I (strongly) disagree! Readers should not have to subscribe to another
group, just because you happen to think it's more appropriate!

When posting a 'base' posting (i.e. starting a new thread), *that*
poster has the responsibility of selcting as few and as on-topic
groups as possible. *After* that decision has been made, it's only
reasonable to redirect if a group or a number of groups is/are totally
off-topic. Since that's clearly not the case here, your re-direct was
inappropriate.

$DRIFT OFF

[deleted]
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typo- Samsung is a 200G not 2,000G!

--
B'rgds,

Vinnie
Uncle Vinnie said:
Sorry it took this long to get back to you -

The 2000G is a Samsung SP2004C, set as Master.
The 40G is a WD Caviar, also set as Master.

The reason I set them as Master, is because they are each on their own
'cable' or channel...

Is this incorrect?

--
B'rgds,

Vinnie
Frank Slootweg said:
$DRIFT ON

[Previous Followup-To: ignored.]

CBFalconer said:
Uncle Vinnie wrote:

RE: HP Pavilion a1310n, using XP Home. [deleted]
I apologize for the cross-post as I am unsure where the issue
lies... thank you!

Then you should have set follow-ups to the one group that you will
monitor for replies. Not knowing where you posted from, I have
done so to a.c.h.
Click to expand...

I (strongly) disagree! Readers should not have to subscribe to another
group, just because you happen to think it's more appropriate!

When posting a 'base' posting (i.e. starting a new thread), *that*
poster has the responsibility of selcting as few and as on-topic
groups as possible. *After* that decision has been made, it's only
reasonable to redirect if a group or a number of groups is/are totally
off-topic. Since that's clearly not the case here, your re-direct was
inappropriate.

$DRIFT OFF

[deleted]
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Uncle Vinnie said:
Sorry it took this long to get back to you -

The 2000G is a Samsung SP2004C, set as Master.
The 40G is a WD Caviar, also set as Master.

The reason I set them as Master, is because they are each on their own
'cable' or channel...

Is this incorrect?
Click to expand...
snipped

Yes it's wrong if the WD is the only drive on its cable. WD drives
have a single setting also. They are the only ones that have that.
 
Bingo.. that was it...

I removed the jumper (Master), now no jumpers, and all boots up great..

Thank you Pen!
 
Odd thing, all runs fine except that Windows is labeling it under
hardware/device as 'Disk Drive', not by name...

BIOS sees it as a WD, and Windows device ID shows it as a WD... how do I
correct this, thanks!
 
Never mind- all fixed- quick Windows uninstall, then reinstall was all that
was needed...

All works well, thank you!
 
*** ugly topposting corrected ***
Uncle said:
Odd thing, all runs fine except that Windows is labeling it
under hardware/device as 'Disk Drive', not by name...

BIOS sees it as a WD, and Windows device ID shows it as a WD...
how do I correct this, thanks!
Click to expand...

Probably by giving it a name. The reason for your earlier
difficulties is that when the bios sees a master it goes looking
for a slave. Nothing more happens until the search times out,
concluding that the slave is out of commision.

If you avoid topposting a message will make much more sense.

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CBFalconer said:
when the bios sees a master it goes looking
for a slave. Nothing more happens until the
search times out, concluding that the slave
is out of commision.
Click to expand...


That is not true for my BIOS - a Phoenix Tech
BIOS customized by Dell. It just lists what it finds
immediately, and then it proceeds.

If you avoid topposting a message will make much more sense.
Click to expand...


I agree. Unfortunately, the MVPs in all the microsoft.public.*
NG all top-post and the newbies assume that to be the norm.
Microsoft *always* has to do things differently.

*TimDaniels*
 
Thanks all...

thanks for the 'top post' info...

I googled it, and am dabbling with OE-QuoteFix (this message).

Thanks again!
 
*** Rude top-posting fixed ***
Uncle said:
thanks for the 'top post' info...

I googled it, and am dabbling with OE-QuoteFix (this message).
Click to expand...

Then why did you top-post this reply? Your answer belongs after,
or possibly intermixed with, the material you quote, after snipping
portions not germane to your reply.

--
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the broken "Reply" link at the bottom of the article. Click on
"show options" at the top of the article, then click on the
"Reply" at the bottom of the article headers." - Keith Thompson
More details at: <http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/>
Also see <http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsreply/>
 
That is not true for my BIOS - a Phoenix Tech
BIOS customized by Dell. It just lists what it finds
immediately, and then it proceeds.
Click to expand...


All modern PC bios use one of two methods:

- Initial detection then stores the result and doesn't
redetect every time. Cannot work to add a drive, must
redectect new drives in "auto" (or similarly worded) mode.

- Always in Auto mode, which the vast majority of systems
are. It searchs for slave drives but the time-out interval
is shorter.



A "Phoenix Tech BIOS customized by Dell" will indeed do
this, too. Either the timeout is simply shorter, or no new
drive could ever be added except through manual parameter
input by the installer which obviously doesn't happen by
end-users installing new drives.
 
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