Help on a dns issue. Please.

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Chuck Hake

Ok try to make this quick, we are a school district. we
have 26 schools. each school has one win2k or 2k3 sevrer.
every computers is set up as its own dns server. They all
have internal ips and are working just fine. The problem
is they are not all showing up in network places so i cant
access them. this becomes a problem when im try to push
out updates to them.

Should i have them all acting as dns servers and point
them to our main dns server here at the main office. i
need to be able to see and access all of them. i can
terminal into them no problem. They just arent showing up.
not even sure if this is a result of dns.

Thanks
Chuck
 
Ok try to make this quick, we are a school district. we
have 26 schools. each school has one win2k or 2k3 sevrer.
every computers is set up as its own dns server. They all
have internal ips and are working just fine. The problem
is they are not all showing up in network places so i cant
access them. this becomes a problem when im try to push
out updates to them.

Should i have them all acting as dns servers and point
them to our main dns server here at the main office. i
need to be able to see and access all of them. i can
terminal into them no problem. They just arent showing up.
not even sure if this is a result of dns.
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I'm assuming each school has its own DNS domain like
e.g. school1, school2 and so on, if that's the case you'll
only need to configure the different DNS servers to allow
zone transfers to your central server, next you'll need to
create each zone on your central DNS as a secondary
zone and point the zone master to the relevant DNS of
that particular school, this way you'll have a local copy
of each zone which will be automatically updated (be
sure also that each DNS has your central DNS IP in its
notify list for the zone) everytime it changes and you'll
probably solve your problem

Regards
 
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I'm assuming each school has its own DNS domain like
e.g. school1, school2 and so on, if that's the case you'll
only need to configure the different DNS servers to allow
zone transfers to your central server, next you'll need to
create each zone on your central DNS as a secondary
zone and point the zone master to the relevant DNS of
that particular school, this way you'll have a local copy
of each zone which will be automatically updated (be
sure also that each DNS has your central DNS IP in its
notify list for the zone) everytime it changes and you'll
probably solve your problem

Regards



.
thanks alot the boss and i are going to try that in a few
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minutes.
 
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Chuck Hake said:
Ok try to make this quick, we are a school district. we
have 26 schools. each school has one win2k or 2k3 sevrer.
every computers is set up as its own dns server. They all
have internal ips and are working just fine. The problem
is they are not all showing up in network places so i cant
access them. this becomes a problem when im try to push
out updates to them.

Should i have them all acting as dns servers and point
them to our main dns server here at the main office. i
need to be able to see and access all of them. i can
terminal into them no problem. They just arent showing up.
not even sure if this is a result of dns.
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Network Places does _not_ use DNS, that is a NetBIOS function. NetBIOS is a
broadcast protocol and will not cross between multiple subnets. You will
need to set up WINS for Network Places to populate non-local machines.
WINS is more reliable than just relying on NetBIOS broadcasts to populate
Network Places.
 
It could be that they aren't in the same IP subnet and
that you are using the older down-rev mechanisms for
browsing. It's set up to just keep the browser list
within the subnet.

Try using AD instead
 
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Chuck Hake said:
Ok try to make this quick, we are a school district. we
have 26 schools. each school has one win2k or 2k3 sevrer.
every computers is set up as its own dns server. They all
have internal ips and are working just fine. The problem
is they are not all showing up in network places so i cant
access them. this becomes a problem when im try to push
out updates to them.

Should i have them all acting as dns servers and point
them to our main dns server here at the main office. i
need to be able to see and access all of them. i can
terminal into them no problem. They just arent showing up.
not even sure if this is a result of dns.

Thanks
Chuck
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What sort of updates are you pushing? Hotfixes? If so, what are you using?
SUS is pure IP and uses DNS for resolution to the SUS server if you set the
URL in the GPO as an FQDN and not the NetBIOS name. As Kevin mentioned, the
neighborhood is Browser Service based, which is NetBIOS based and has
nothing to do with DNS. If you want full functionality for the neighborhood,
use WINS for the infrastructure to insure NetBIOS resolution across the
board. The Browser service will pick up all the names from WINS.

As for DNS, Obiwan has a nice resolution.
:-)

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What sort of updates are you pushing? Hotfixes? If so, what are you using?
SUS is pure IP and uses DNS for resolution to the SUS server if you set the
URL in the GPO as an FQDN and not the NetBIOS name. As Kevin mentioned, the
neighborhood is Browser Service based, which is NetBIOS based and has
nothing to do with DNS. If you want full functionality for the neighborhood,
use WINS for the infrastructure to insure NetBIOS resolution across the
board. The Browser service will pick up all the names from WINS.

As for DNS, Obiwan has a nice resolution.
:-)
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Thanks Ace; just a note; an alternate solution if the issue is
caused by "WINS" may be installing WINS on the central
DNS machine, next setting up the remote DNS machines
to act as WINS proxies and btw to point to the central DNS
as their WINS server, the next step will be setting up all the
remote clients to use their local DNS as WINS servers this
way the WINS traffic will flow up to the central machine which
will then keep the global database
 
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ObiWan said:
Thanks Ace; just a note; an alternate solution if the issue is
caused by "WINS" may be installing WINS on the central
DNS machine, next setting up the remote DNS machines
to act as WINS proxies and btw to point to the central DNS
as their WINS server, the next step will be setting up all the
remote clients to use their local DNS as WINS servers this
way the WINS traffic will flow up to the central machine which
will then keep the global database
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Good point. On the DNS servers, set to use WINS resolution and supply IP of
the central WINS server.

To add, if there are mutliple WINS servers, use the central office as a
"hub" and setup replication partners to and from it. If the partnerships are
meshed, it will causes replication errors.

--
Regards,
Ace

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so all can benefit.

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Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken;
A lifetime commitment for a pig.
 
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