Help! KN8E-DlX won't start for the first turn-on

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Arnie Berger

Before I RMA my entire order to Newegg I wanted to ask the collected
wisdom of this group. My KN8E just arrived with an Athlon64 3000+ and
an Antec Trupower 380W PS. Here's what I did:

1- I read the installation instructions in the ASUS manual,
2- Installed the processor and the heatsink fan combo.
3- Installed 2x512M PC3200 memory DIMMS I bought at Fry's.
4- Installed an old PCI video card I had.
5- Laid everything out on my workbench, connected the PS and a
keyboard.
6- Shorted together the two power pins on the MOBO. The fan in the
power supply and the fan on the processor spun up for a second and
then shut down.
7- Checked that the fan was properly connected to the CPU-fan socket
(it was).
8- Removed the heatsink and processor, checked for bent pins, checked
that it was inserted properly (it was), reassembled and tried again.
No joy.
8a- Cleared the CMOS memory. Tried again. Same problem.
9- Took my good AGP video card out of my working PC and tried that. No
luck.

At this point I am stumped. I suspect that the problem is in the
tachometer circuit of the fan or on the motherboard. I think that if
the BIOS/CPU does not get a good tachometer signal, it shuts down the
power to prevent damage. This is the simplest explanation I can think
of, but if someone has a better idea I'm certainly open to
suggestions.

Arnie
 
Before I RMA my entire order to Newegg I wanted to ask the collected
wisdom of this group. My KN8E just arrived with an Athlon64 3000+ and
an Antec Trupower 380W PS. Here's what I did:

1- I read the installation instructions in the ASUS manual,
2- Installed the processor and the heatsink fan combo.
3- Installed 2x512M PC3200 memory DIMMS I bought at Fry's.
4- Installed an old PCI video card I had.
5- Laid everything out on my workbench, connected the PS and a
keyboard.
6- Shorted together the two power pins on the MOBO. The fan in the
power supply and the fan on the processor spun up for a second and
then shut down.
7- Checked that the fan was properly connected to the CPU-fan socket
(it was).
8- Removed the heatsink and processor, checked for bent pins, checked
that it was inserted properly (it was), reassembled and tried again.
No joy.
8a- Cleared the CMOS memory. Tried again. Same problem.
9- Took my good AGP video card out of my working PC and tried that. No
luck.

At this point I am stumped. I suspect that the problem is in the
tachometer circuit of the fan or on the motherboard. I think that if
the BIOS/CPU does not get a good tachometer signal, it shuts down the
power to prevent damage. This is the simplest explanation I can think
of, but if someone has a better idea I'm certainly open to
suggestions.

Arnie
Click to expand...

You could try stripping the board down, and using the Voice POST,
to try and figure out what is wrong. The board should start, even
with no components plugged in. Plug a stereo or a pair of amplified
speakers into the lime colored Lineout jack, then listen for error
messages to come out.

With no CPU present, it should tell you that no CPU is there. With
the CPU in place, it should complain about no RAM. With RAM in place,
it'll bitch about no video card. Then keyboard and mouse. Add the
stuff one piece at a time, and try to see which step stops it.

The Voice POST really doesn't give that much useful info, but
maybe you'll notice something important that happens along the
way. (Since the Voice POST has poor fidelity, you'll need to keep
the list of error messages in front of you, and compare the
list to the mumbling coming from the speakers.)

If you have another PSU handy, you might try swapping that in,
in case the PSU has some problem with the load from the board.

HTH,
Paul
 
Before I RMA my entire order to Newegg I wanted to ask the collected
wisdom of this group. My KN8E just arrived with an Athlon64 3000+ and
an Antec Trupower 380W PS. Here's what I did:

1- I read the installation instructions in the ASUS manual,
2- Installed the processor and the heatsink fan combo.
3- Installed 2x512M PC3200 memory DIMMS I bought at Fry's.
4- Installed an old PCI video card I had.
5- Laid everything out on my workbench, connected the PS and a
keyboard.
6- Shorted together the two power pins on the MOBO. The fan in the
power supply and the fan on the processor spun up for a second and
then shut down.
7- Checked that the fan was properly connected to the CPU-fan socket
(it was).
8- Removed the heatsink and processor, checked for bent pins, checked
that it was inserted properly (it was), reassembled and tried again.
No joy.
8a- Cleared the CMOS memory. Tried again. Same problem.
9- Took my good AGP video card out of my working PC and tried that. No
luck.

At this point I am stumped. I suspect that the problem is in the
tachometer circuit of the fan or on the motherboard. I think that if
the BIOS/CPU does not get a good tachometer signal, it shuts down the
power to prevent damage. This is the simplest explanation I can think
of, but if someone has a better idea I'm certainly open to
suggestions.

Arnie
Click to expand...

PILOT ERROR!! Note the sheepish grin.
I should have listed two more steps after step #9, above. I'll put
them here.

10- Reread manual very carefully and make sure that I didn't miss
anything the first time through.
11- Read the part about the auxilliary power connector, which should
also be connected to the motherboard along with the standard ATX power
connector. look at the board and note the fact that I didn't connect
the second power connector. Read the part about the board not working
without it. Plug in the 4-pin connector and watch the board come up
just fine.

Some additional thoughts:

1- If you have an older power supply, like my 2 year old Antec 400
watter, it probably doesn't have the new connector. I found an adapter
at a local computer store for $10.00. It plugs into one of the 4-pin
disk drive power connectors.

2- The memory that I bought at Fry's, 1 GByte of PQI memory seems to
work just fine. I ran memtest86 for 5 hours after the board came up
and it ran without any errors. I didn't make any configuration
changes, just let it auto-configure itself.

3- The board seems to be incredibly fast. XP pro SP2 comes right up.

4- I just read an article in the latest issue of PC World about SP2
and it had a sentence in it about an incompatibility with the
Athlon64, but I haven't noticed anything so far. I did read a note on
this group about a problem with the latest nVidia IDE driver and
Athlon64, so I didn't load that driver.

I've still got it sitting on a table top with the C drive, a CD-rom
drive. I'm gradually re-loading my applications and watching for
glitches. When I have enough software loaded to have a useful system
I'll swap out the A7N8X-DLX version 1.0 and put in the K8N-E.

Arnie, the Humbled
 
Arnie Berger heeft ons zojuist aangekondigd :
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PILOT ERROR!! Note the sheepish grin.
I should have listed two more steps after step #9, above. I'll put
them here.

10- Reread manual very carefully and make sure that I didn't miss
anything the first time through.
11- Read the part about the auxilliary power connector, which should
also be connected to the motherboard along with the standard ATX power
connector. look at the board and note the fact that I didn't connect
the second power connector. Read the part about the board not working
without it. Plug in the 4-pin connector and watch the board come up
just fine.

Some additional thoughts:

1- If you have an older power supply, like my 2 year old Antec 400
watter, it probably doesn't have the new connector. I found an adapter
at a local computer store for $10.00. It plugs into one of the 4-pin
disk drive power connectors.

2- The memory that I bought at Fry's, 1 GByte of PQI memory seems to
work just fine. I ran memtest86 for 5 hours after the board came up
and it ran without any errors. I didn't make any configuration
changes, just let it auto-configure itself.

3- The board seems to be incredibly fast. XP pro SP2 comes right up.

4- I just read an article in the latest issue of PC World about SP2
and it had a sentence in it about an incompatibility with the
Athlon64, but I haven't noticed anything so far. I did read a note on
this group about a problem with the latest nVidia IDE driver and
Athlon64, so I didn't load that driver.

I've still got it sitting on a table top with the C drive, a CD-rom
drive. I'm gradually re-loading my applications and watching for
glitches. When I have enough software loaded to have a useful system
I'll swap out the A7N8X-DLX version 1.0 and put in the K8N-E.

Arnie, the Humbled
Click to expand...

I had some trouble with the K8NE deluxe, it doesn't start up with the
cd burner and dvd player on the same IDE cable, no matter what I do
(switch master/slave, even cable select, both cd burner and dvd player
are from aopen) with XP installed it keeps giving me an error and
restarts again and again untill I disconect one.
 
Mark1 said:
Arnie Berger heeft ons zojuist aangekondigd :

I had some trouble with the K8NE deluxe, it doesn't start up with the
cd burner and dvd player on the same IDE cable, no matter what I do
(switch master/slave, even cable select, both cd burner and dvd player
are from aopen) with XP installed it keeps giving me an error and
restarts again and again untill I disconect one.
Click to expand...

Well, I didn't have that problem at all. The rest of the bring-up went
without any additional aggrevation. Unless both drives are set to the
same configuration, it obviously should work. BTW, I don't think cable
select will work unless you use the high density IDE cable. The
regular one doesn't have the additional wires for cable select (I
think). Try a different cable as well.

arnie
 
Arnie Berger heeft ons zojuist aangekondigd :
Well, I didn't have that problem at all. The rest of the bring-up went
without any additional aggrevation. Unless both drives are set to the
same configuration, it obviously should work. BTW, I don't think cable
select will work unless you use the high density IDE cable. The
regular one doesn't have the additional wires for cable select (I
think). Try a different cable as well.

arnie
Click to expand...

Yep I am puzzeled why I don't work (old mobo's used to have that
problem when the P200 was new) I used 2 different cables(the 80pin HD
cable and the 40p drive cable) even moved them on different positions
on the cable, no luck :-(
And both dvd and cd burner are from the same brand AOPEN (so not a HP
;-) )

AH well seems I have to buy a dual layer dvd burner to be able to vieuw
dvd's on this mobo.
 
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