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Arrrrrghhhh----HELP! I'm tearing my hair out (figuratively speaking, as I
don't have any hair to tear out).

Here's the deal: I have a nice, big pc computer monitor (Gateway EV730).
Some scumbag broke in the other nite and cut some cables in a fit of
vandalism. The good news is that my monitor cable was cut out right at the
plug.

The bad news is that it was cut.

Seems no one in the whole world out there today puts new plugs on the end of
monitor video cables, including my Gateway repair shop here in town. I know
a major issue is getting the wires in the cable to the right pins on a new
plug.

I tried getting a new HD15 plug (that's doable), and finding some pinout
diagrams (that's doable too).

Problem is my diagrams all agree with each other, but don't match the
colored wires in my monitor cable.

So, what's a poor guy to do? Is tossing out this nice monitor the answer?
HELP!
 
From: "RB" (e-mail address removed)
Arrrrrghhhh----HELP! I'm tearing my hair out (figuratively speaking, as I
don't have any hair to tear out).

Here's the deal: I have a nice, big pc computer monitor (Gateway EV730).
Some scumbag broke in the other nite and cut some cables in a fit of
vandalism. The good news is that my monitor cable was cut out right at the
plug.

The bad news is that it was cut.

Seems no one in the whole world out there today puts new plugs on the end of
monitor video cables, including my Gateway repair shop here in town. I know
a major issue is getting the wires in the cable to the right pins on a new
plug.

I tried getting a new HD15 plug (that's doable), and finding some pinout
diagrams (that's doable too).

Problem is my diagrams all agree with each other, but don't match the
colored wires in my monitor cable.

So, what's a poor guy to do? Is tossing out this nice monitor the answer?
HELP!
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If you still have the cutoff plug, and can cut off the molded rubber there
should be enough left of the wires with the insulation to allow you to match up
color/pin.
 
}}} If you still have the cutoff plug, and can cut off the molded rubber
there
should be enough left of the wires with the insulation to allow you to match
up
color/pin. {{{

Right you are, and don't I wish we still had the old plug. Sadly, the
dirtbags helping us out made off with it or threw it away in our trash
before we knew it was gone and that we'd need it later. Either that or the
repair tech got rid of it in cleaning things up. Anyway, it was a while
before I realized I missed the plug, and really wished I had it in my hot
little hand.
 
RB said:
}}} If you still have the cutoff plug, and can cut off the molded rubber
there
should be enough left of the wires with the insulation to allow you to match
up
color/pin. {{{

Right you are, and don't I wish we still had the old plug. Sadly, the
dirtbags helping us out made off with it or threw it away in our trash
before we knew it was gone and that we'd need it later. Either that or the
repair tech got rid of it in cleaning things up. Anyway, it was a while
before I realized I missed the plug, and really wished I had it in my hot
little hand.
Click to expand...

If you feel up to it--minding the high voltage present on the CRT's anode, etc.,
you can probably determine the wire's usage by looking at where they go in the
monitor. There may be silk screened letters on the PCBs that indicate the
wire usage. There are three analog inputs, (red, green, blue), and their
associated grounds, a H-sync, a V-sync, a separate ground, plus pins
4, 11, 12 which are ID bits.

A competant TV technician may be better able to help if you provide him
with the pin data. Most PC "technicians" don't go much beyond "Plug & Pray",
and even fewer know which end of a soldering iron to grab!

Good luck! It'd be a shame to bin a perfectly good monitor.

Virg Wall
 
}}} There may be silk screened letters on the PCBs that indicate the
wire usage. {{{

Super idea. I'll open it up and take a look. Would have to do that anyway
if all I could get was a replacement cable assy with plug on it.

}}} There are three analog inputs, (red, green, blue), and their
associated grounds, {{{

Got the red, green, and blue. What do their associated grounds look like?
Are those the grounds that are inside the braided ground sheath? Sort of
tinfoil looking things?

And, can I use any old ground for any of the others?

}}} plus pins
4, 11, 12 which are ID bits. {{{

On these, will it matter which wire goes to which pin?
 
RB said:
}}} There may be silk screened letters on the PCBs that indicate the
wire usage. {{{

Super idea. I'll open it up and take a look. Would have to do that anyway
if all I could get was a replacement cable assy with plug on it.

}}} There are three analog inputs, (red, green, blue), and their
associated grounds, {{{

Got the red, green, and blue. What do their associated grounds look like?
Are those the grounds that are inside the braided ground sheath? Sort of
tinfoil looking things?
Click to expand...

If they are around the three individual, (R, G, B) wires they indeed are the
return grounds. The braid shield goes to pin 10 (ground).
And, can I use any old ground for any of the others?
Click to expand...

They are probably grounded to pin 10 at the receptacle on the video card.
}}} plus pins
4, 11, 12 which are ID bits. {{{

On these, will it matter which wire goes to which pin?
Click to expand...

I think these are used only to identify the monitor to the software.
May not be needed, but if they are, must be in proper order.

Re: http://www.networktechinc.com/technote.html

Looks like an excellent reference for many connectors. I downloaded
the .prf (near the end), for future reference.

Virg Wall
 
Great! Thanks much for the help.

And good info at the KVM web page. I wrote them to ask if they might have a
cable with plug that would work. Long shot, but possible.

I also posted several more web pages which show pinouts, up above in a
separate email. Hopefully, no one will ever need them. But............
 
Great! Thanks much for the help.

And good info at the KVM web page. I wrote them to ask if they might have a
cable with plug that would work. Long shot, but possible.

I also posted several more web pages which show pinouts, up above in a
separate email. Hopefully, no one will ever need them. But............
Click to expand...

It's not really such a long shot to get a cable... That's a Trinitron
monitor, right? It's likely that many different Sony monitors have
the exact same plug, pinout, so you all need to do is compare that
plug to another Sony monitor cable (perhaps from same family, getting
as close as possible to similar monitor)(I mean the internal plug of
course).


Dave
 
Dunno, Dave. Gateway told me that Mag Innovision (??) makes the monitor.
Even if that's not a Sony, it still might be very much like one. At least
enough to find a cable if the Sony types are common.
 
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