Help for the programmers of Norton Anti Virus

[WimHamhuis]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130

These issues are contradicting that what is told on the website(s)
please correct this.

Computers that have lower microprocessors than Pentium 1 still can
access the internet and ofcourse -can- spread computervirusses and
other malware. In a new version it may be possible to program the
install so there will be a suitable antivirus program for everyone
even if you have x86 by simply look up your microprocessor in the
startup screen on your computer then apply the correct choice in the
install file. Then the installfile will install a working version for
your computer. I remember there was a norton antivirus for even a
8086. With special TCP/IP interface extended this program may even
scan for the most "modern" computervirusses which ended up on a x86
computer ;-))

with friendly greetings,
Wim Hamhuis

 

[Hans Kamp]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130

These issues are contradicting that what is told on the website(s)
please correct this.

Computers that have lower microprocessors than Pentium 1 still can
access the internet and ofcourse -can- spread computervirusses and
other malware. In a new version it may be possible to program the
install so there will be a suitable antivirus program for everyone
even if you have x86 by simply look up your microprocessor in the
startup screen on your computer then apply the correct choice in the
install file. Then the installfile will install a working version for
your computer.

Why should there be different versions for each microprocessor type?
First, there is a Windows API function that queries the processor
type, and second, the most used standard is Win32.

Hans Kamp.

 

[Hans Kamp]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130

These issues are contradicting that what is told on the website(s)
please correct this.

How does the following and anti virus program relate to Service Pack 2
for Windows XP (the above URL)?

Computers that have lower microprocessors than Pentium 1 still can
access the internet and ofcourse -can- spread computervirusses and
other malware. In a new version it may be possible to program the
install so there will be a suitable antivirus program for everyone
even if you have x86 by simply look up your microprocessor in the
startup screen on your computer then apply the correct choice in the
install file. Then the installfile will install a working version for
your computer. I remember there was a norton antivirus for even a
8086. With special TCP/IP interface extended this program may even
scan for the most "modern" computervirusses which ended up on a x86
computer ;-))

Why is support for ancient computers necessary?

Hans Kamp.

 

[Uncle Mortimer]

Why should there be different versions for each microprocessor type?

Code can be more efficiently executed without having to deal with multiple layers of abstraction but with the speed of execution on
todays processors there is little need for this small gain.

First, there is a Windows API function that queries the processor
type, and second, the most used standard is Win32.

Is 32 bit supported as a subset of 64 bit as is the case with 16 and 32?

 

[Wim Hamhuis]

(e-mail address removed) (WimHamhuis) wrote in message

How does the following and anti virus program relate to Service Pack 2
for Windows XP (the above URL)?

Service pack 2 (SP2) is still to be examined by professionals, i don't
recommend installing this crap yet. There are too many bugs inside this
service pack.

Why is support for ancient computers necessary?

Because a fast but also a slow computer -is able to- can spread
computervirusses on the internet.

Hans Kamp.

A floppy can go with anyone. When you are in another country where they use
ancient computers a virus doesn't care *shitt* which microprocessor there
is. But your programs does react on the instructions your microprocessor
uses. When done correctly, this will speed up the antivirus program
dramatically.
For example :
* Launch Install file :

<Which microprocessor does your computer have>
#O 8086
#1 80286
#2 80386
#3 80486
#4 80586
#5 Pentium 2
#6 Pentium 3
#7 Pentium 4
#8 Cyrix
</end list>

Each of those processors have a different instruction set. They are
Downwards compatible i.e. a program written specially for a Pentium 3 will
not work correctly on a Pentium 2. But the correct scan engine extracts the
data for the signatures from a coded file. To maintain a basic code to read
the signatures, different scanengines could scan the appropriate computer
Very Fast. So the real solution is to code the scan engine for each
microprocessor, but maintain a definitionlist all these programs can read.
It will make the program a lot faster specially designed for your computer,
and much less crashes because of correct memory handling. The way the
situation is now i can see the program gobbling up too much resources and
there are even memory leaks.

Second step in the installation :
The loaded program reads the updated signature file via TCP/IP protocol.
Since the TCP/IP is the same for all these computers on the Internet, each
different written program can read the signatures correctly. The gain is
speed, a thing we value nowadays. It will dramatically increase the speed
and flexibility of this antivirus vendor if they would implement this. I
think more antivirus vendors are interested. Also the process which runs the
antivirusprogram should be protected against shutdown, the program should
react immediatlely some program tries to shut it down, leaving another
computervirus bites the dust.

with friendly greetings,
Wim Hamhuis

 

[Hans Kamp]

Service pack 2 (SP2) is still to be examined by professionals, i don't
recommend installing this crap yet. There are too many bugs inside this
service pack.

Possibly. Again: How do anti virus programs relate to SP2?

Hans Kamp.

 

[Wim Hamhuis]

Possibly. Again: How do anti virus programs relate to SP2?

Hans Kamp.

The answer is bypassed by you, because The article states this in the
beginning :

"Programs that are known to experience a loss of functionality when they run
on a Windows XP Service Pack 2-based computer"

That's how it's related.

Wim

 

[Hans Kamp]

The answer is bypassed by you, because The article states this in the
beginning :

"Programs that are known to experience a loss of functionality when they run
on a Windows XP Service Pack 2-based computer"

That's how it's related.

No, it's not. And I give it up. I cannot get the question answered by
you. SP2 has bugs, but that has nothing to do with viruses, unless you
give proofs that I am wrong.

Hans Kamp.

 

[Wim Hamhuis]

The answer is bypassed by you, because The article states this in the
beginning :

"Programs that are known to experience a loss of functionality when they run
on a Windows XP Service Pack 2-based computer"

That's how it's related.

No, it's not.[/QUOTE]

Yes it is.

And I give it up.

You don't have to, because clearly this is stated to be influenced by SP2:

Windows XP SP2-based client programs that receive data from a server.
Windows XP SP2-based server programs that respond to client requests.

I cannot get the question answered by
you.

Me eighter with you because THAT it is influenced, they let us all know, but
HOW it is influenced, they don't tell to both of us....

SP2 has bugs, but that has nothing to do with viruses, unless you
give proofs that I am wrong.

If you had a virus when installing SP2 it may be possible. But to do so
would be very inaccurate and sloppy, because when you be carefull with each
floppy you insert in your computer (activate your UPDATED virusscanner
first) you won't have a virus anyway.

Hans Kamp.

Remember backups are the best cure to get rid of virusses. But a nice
written antivirus program, suitable for every computer would make this work
a lot easier. They just have to write scan engines that work per computer
but can swap the signature files like BASICODE 3 (Sent out by N.O.S. by
hobbyscoop on the radio a while ago)

Wim Hamhuis