*********HELP---1ch Domain Controller record problem after seizure operation

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Dear all,
(I re-posted it because it might have been forgotten, but I need help please
!!)

Thanks for your quick reply Richard. Before I proceeded by your suggestion,
I demoted 3rd DC, cleared out the record of 3rd DC as domain controller 1ch.
So there is only 1 DC now with WINS on itself. I followed your instruction,
it is not created yet the 'domain controller [1ch] record. Do we have to
wait hours until the record to be created ? It was strange to me when I
added the 3rd DC in, the domain controller [1ch] record created
automatically on the 3rd DC.
Should I remove and re-add the WINS on 2nd DC ? (it might not be the case
because we were having bunch of record of servers, clients active on the 2nd
DC's WINS)

Please help, (any one please help !!)
Thanks,
J.H
'Domain Controller [1ch] record type' in the 2nd DC's WINS yet.
Richard McCall said:
Restart the netlogon and server service on the Second DC and then run
nbtstat -RR on the second DC.

--
Richard McCall [MSFT]

"This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights."
J.H said:
Hi there,

After the seizure operation to replace the 1st DC downed by 2nd DC,
The WINS on 2nd DC does not have the [1ch] Domain Controller record type
any more (can not be automatically created, but not prefer to manually
created)
I had to add another DC to the domain and install the WINS, so the WINS on
3rd DC
now has the record [1ch] Domain Controller record type.
Can any one tell me what wrong it is with 2nd DC's WINS ?
I supposed after the seizure operation (5 roles + PDC role also) to
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2nd
DC
the 2nd DC is supposed to have [1ch] Domain Controller record type in its
WINS, but it won't. Now the new added 3rd DC has [1ch] Domain Controller
record type, it is weird to me that [1ch] can never be created on 2nd DC's
WINS (automatically)

HELP PLEASE,
JPTH
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While 2k can and will sometimes use netbios, it much prefers and defaults to
dns, so if you're having AD problems, for win2k dc's especially, I'd
concentrate on resolving dns records instead of wins. The most important
wins registration for this would be your 1B record for the domain (with IP
address of the pdc) and you can look at the following to help with lmhosts
as temporary fix if nbtstat -RR isn't registering the records;
180094 How to Write an LMHOSTS File for Domain Validation and Other Name
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=180094

However dns is most important in any 2k domain.
Verify that you have a valid win2k dns server for your domain, see the 4 "_"
folders under your <domainname> zone in Forward Lookup Zones, and are able
to ping your domain name (xyz.com) sucessfully from any XP or 2k machine.
If dns is working properly, just about everything tends to work as well.

--
David Brandt
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for
newsgroup purposes only.
J.H said:
Dear all,
(I re-posted it because it might have been forgotten, but I need help please
!!)

Thanks for your quick reply Richard. Before I proceeded by your suggestion,
I demoted 3rd DC, cleared out the record of 3rd DC as domain controller 1ch.
So there is only 1 DC now with WINS on itself. I followed your instruction,
it is not created yet the 'domain controller [1ch] record. Do we have to
wait hours until the record to be created ? It was strange to me when I
added the 3rd DC in, the domain controller [1ch] record created
automatically on the 3rd DC.
Should I remove and re-add the WINS on 2nd DC ? (it might not be the case
because we were having bunch of record of servers, clients active on the 2nd
DC's WINS)

Please help, (any one please help !!)
Thanks,
J.H
'Domain Controller [1ch] record type' in the 2nd DC's WINS yet.
Richard McCall said:
Restart the netlogon and server service on the Second DC and then run
nbtstat -RR on the second DC.

--
Richard McCall [MSFT]

"This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights."
J.H said:
Hi there,

After the seizure operation to replace the 1st DC downed by 2nd DC,
The WINS on 2nd DC does not have the [1ch] Domain Controller record type
any more (can not be automatically created, but not prefer to manually
created)
I had to add another DC to the domain and install the WINS, so the
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
WINS
on
3rd DC
now has the record [1ch] Domain Controller record type.

Can any one tell me what wrong it is with 2nd DC's WINS ?
I supposed after the seizure operation (5 roles + PDC role also) to 2nd
DC
the 2nd DC is supposed to have [1ch] Domain Controller record type in its
WINS, but it won't. Now the new added 3rd DC has [1ch] Domain Controller
record type, it is weird to me that [1ch] can never be created on 2nd DC's
WINS (automatically)

HELP PLEASE,
JPTH
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Hi David,

Thanks for your reponse. I have checked by nbtstat -A DC3_IP, the [1B]
record is registered (also20, 00,1C,1E,1D), but not in the WINS's 'Find
Name' database when I used WINS console to find those records. So far we
have no problem for domain validation, passwordchange, joining the
domain...etc, every thing seems to be functional. I was worrying of having
problem for not having [1ch] record, that will create the problem for master
browser role in our network (correct me if i am wrong).

- Do you have any idea why [1ch] does not get registered after the seizure
operation ?
- if there is no [1ch] record, what will be happening ?

Thank you very much,
J.H
but when I checked in the
David Brandt said:
While 2k can and will sometimes use netbios, it much prefers and defaults to
dns, so if you're having AD problems, for win2k dc's especially, I'd
concentrate on resolving dns records instead of wins. The most important
wins registration for this would be your 1B record for the domain (with IP
address of the pdc) and you can look at the following to help with lmhosts
as temporary fix if nbtstat -RR isn't registering the records;
180094 How to Write an LMHOSTS File for Domain Validation and Other Name
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=180094

However dns is most important in any 2k domain.
Verify that you have a valid win2k dns server for your domain, see the 4 "_"
folders under your <domainname> zone in Forward Lookup Zones, and are able
to ping your domain name (xyz.com) sucessfully from any XP or 2k machine.
If dns is working properly, just about everything tends to work as well.

--
David Brandt
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for
newsgroup purposes only.
J.H said:
Dear all,
(I re-posted it because it might have been forgotten, but I need help please
!!)

Thanks for your quick reply Richard. Before I proceeded by your suggestion,
I demoted 3rd DC, cleared out the record of 3rd DC as domain controller 1ch.
So there is only 1 DC now with WINS on itself. I followed your instruction,
it is not created yet the 'domain controller [1ch] record. Do we have to
wait hours until the record to be created ? It was strange to me when I
added the 3rd DC in, the domain controller [1ch] record created
automatically on the 3rd DC.
Should I remove and re-add the WINS on 2nd DC ? (it might not be the case
because we were having bunch of record of servers, clients active on the 2nd
DC's WINS)

Please help, (any one please help !!)
Thanks,
J.H
'Domain Controller [1ch] record type' in the 2nd DC's WINS yet.
Richard McCall said:
Restart the netlogon and server service on the Second DC and then run
nbtstat -RR on the second DC.

--
Richard McCall [MSFT]

"This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights."
Hi there,

After the seizure operation to replace the 1st DC downed by 2nd DC,
The WINS on 2nd DC does not have the [1ch] Domain Controller record type
any more (can not be automatically created, but not prefer to manually
created)
I had to add another DC to the domain and install the WINS, so the
Click to expand...
WINS
on
3rd DC
now has the record [1ch] Domain Controller record type.

Can any one tell me what wrong it is with 2nd DC's WINS ?
I supposed after the seizure operation (5 roles + PDC role also)
Click to expand...
to
2nd
DC
the 2nd DC is supposed to have [1ch] Domain Controller record type
Click to expand...
in
its
WINS, but it won't. Now the new added 3rd DC has [1ch] Domain Controller
record type, it is weird to me that [1ch] can never be created on
Click to expand...
2nd
DC's
WINS (automatically)

HELP PLEASE,
JPTH
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