Hi up again. poota switched itself off again and had apaddy about going back on line. Must of been invented by a male..... Anyway "Muckshifter" you say to start a new thread. erm whats that? How do I do that? Fraid this ole bird is severley lacking in the jargon. Step by step instructions please. And a great big hello to all who have greeted me. Its great that there is someone out there who maybe able to help me and my lil ole laptop which has been threatened with going out the window (whilst shut) if it doesnt behave x