HDTV Wonder No video on Channel 9???

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Biggy

After several attempts installing the software I got it going. Problem is I
am getting a strong signal on CFTO-DT via my channel master I hear the audio
portion but no video. All the other stations I get both audio and video. I
removed all video drivers and followed all ATI installations instructions.
Boy this software really sucks.

Anyone had this problem?? Any suggestions?

Thanks!
 
Biggy said:
After several attempts installing the software I got it going. Problem is
I am getting a strong signal on CFTO-DT via my channel master I hear the
audio portion but no video. All the other stations I get both audio and
video. I removed all video drivers and followed all ATI installations
instructions. Boy this software really sucks.

Anyone had this problem?? Any suggestions?

If all the other stations are working well and you're showing a strong
digital signal I'd watch it periodically for a week and make sure it wasn't
the station.

I don't know if it's the networks or the stations but one or the other are
still having real trouble coming to grips with HD. I've seen the voice
channel on "CSI:Miami" disappear for example with the music still going
strong--one time the station swapped out the HD transmission for the
upconverted analog in mid-show. Other times I've watched a show on the
local NBC outlet only to have dead air at the end when the next was
supposed to start. Transmitting the voice channel with no picture would
not surprise me at all.
 
J. Clarke said:
If all the other stations are working well and you're showing a strong
digital signal I'd watch it periodically for a week and make sure it wasn't
the station.

I don't know if it's the networks or the stations but one or the other are
still having real trouble coming to grips with HD. I've seen the voice
channel on "CSI:Miami" disappear for example with the music still going
strong--one time the station swapped out the HD transmission for the
upconverted analog in mid-show. Other times I've watched a show on the
local NBC outlet only to have dead air at the end when the next was
supposed to start. Transmitting the voice channel with no picture would
not surprise me at all.

I agree but you might want to check this out too.
http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/silver.html

Don't worry about it being for a Silver Sensor look at the section:
Urban Ghosts (inner-city multi-path) See if that applies to you. What video
card are you using?

The software sucks compared to what? You can get another free program to use
that has some useful features including a better strength meter, but lacks
some of the features DTV has.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=590020&page=1&pp=30
 
Thanks for the quick response!

I forgot to mention I also have my "HDTV" hooked up to the channel master
via a UHF amp. the HDTV picks up the station (9) with no problem. When I
install the software to my computer the first time I received all the
stations audio and video with not problem.

BTW I have a new All wonder 2006 9600 video card.

This is my software uninstall procedure:

.... Uninstalled all ATI software using ati uninstall file.
.... Regedit all references and programs related to ati including all temp
files in windows related to ati.

Installation:

.... Download latest XP display drv for All in wonder 2006 9600
NOTE: I only installed this driver not the catalyst control center.

DL four HDTV wonder files and installed as follows:

....DAO
....HDTV WONDER DRV
....DTV DECODER
.... MULTI MEDIA

I think it has something to do with installation of the software??
 
T said:
I agree but you might want to check this out too.
http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/silver.html

Don't worry about it being for a Silver Sensor look at the section:
Urban Ghosts (inner-city multi-path) See if that applies to you. What
video card are you using?

The software sucks compared to what? You can get another free program to
use that has some useful features including a better strength meter, but
lacks some of the features DTV has.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=590020&page=1&pp=30

I agree with that but I think if everything seems to be working on the other
stations there's one digital station that's acting up and its analog
equivalent on the same bearing is coming in reasonably well it's best to
watch for a while and make sure it's not the station before putting a lot
of effort into corrective action.
 
J. Clarke said:
T Shadow wrote:
Snip

I agree with that but I think if everything seems to be working on the other
stations there's one digital station that's acting up and its analog
equivalent on the same bearing is coming in reasonably well it's best to
watch for a while and make sure it's not the station before putting a lot
of effort into corrective action.


--
It's looking like you are right.
 
Biggy said:
Thanks for the quick response!

I forgot to mention I also have my "HDTV" hooked up to the channel master
via a UHF amp. the HDTV picks up the station (9) with no problem. When I
install the software to my computer the first time I received all the
stations audio and video with not problem.

BTW I have a new All wonder 2006 9600 video card.

This is my software uninstall procedure:

... Uninstalled all ATI software using ati uninstall file.
... Regedit all references and programs related to ati including all temp
files in windows related to ati.

Installation:

... Download latest XP display drv for All in wonder 2006 9600
NOTE: I only installed this driver not the catalyst control center.

DL four HDTV wonder files and installed as follows:

...DAO
...HDTV WONDER DRV
...DTV DECODER
... MULTI MEDIA

I think it has something to do with installation of the software??
Is "channel 9" the stations analog channel or the actual digital channel?
Highly unlikely the install would only affect one channel unless it's the
only 1080i channel you get. Especially if all the drivers are installed
correctly. How many channels are you getting? In the beginning every time I
had a problem I thought it was my system. The stations are getting better
but they still screw up often.
avsforum has threads by broadcast area or you could call the station. Are
you in an area where multipath might be a problem?
The WatchHDTV.exe I posted the link for is the only practical way I know of
to use the AIW and HDTV W at the same time. At least till MMC 9.12 comes
out.
 
I get on the average 18 channels several (7) HD channels and some side bands
DT and SD. I pickup the Toronto HD signals which include channel 9 CFTO ,
CBC and CITY TV and Sun all HD plus a some from Buffalo NY.

The funny thing is when I loaded the software the first time I had no
trouble I was getting channel 9-1 HD. The signal is 77 to 82 to percent,
after re-installing the software I just recevie the audio portion now. My
HDTV receives both audio and video no problem.

This really strange can't figure it out, why do I loose the video portion of
the signal. Oh yes one more thing I did notice one of the stations from
Buffalo shows a signal but I don't get anything on it. My HDTV also doesn't
receive anything on this channel as well.

To Bad I really like this channel :-(

As for the software what I found the installation procedure sure takes along
time and seems to have some bugs as well. I am still trying to get it right
after 5 days :-(

Then again it could be just me :-(
 
Biggy said:
Thanks for the quick response!

I forgot to mention I also have my "HDTV" hooked up to the channel master
via a UHF amp. the HDTV picks up the station (9) with no problem. When I
install the software to my computer the first time I received all the
stations audio and video with not problem.

BTW I have a new All wonder 2006 9600 video card.

This is my software uninstall procedure:

... Uninstalled all ATI software using ati uninstall file.
... Regedit all references and programs related to ati including all temp
files in windows related to ati.

Installation:

... Download latest XP display drv for All in wonder 2006 9600
NOTE: I only installed this driver not the catalyst control center.

DL four HDTV wonder files and installed as follows:

...DAO
...HDTV WONDER DRV
...DTV DECODER
... MULTI MEDIA

I think it has something to do with installation of the software??
<snip>
I also use the ATI software though my video card is a 9600 pro. I had
problems with CCC 5.9 and 5.10 when I was loading the machine up in
October. I went back to CCC 5.5 because the release date of the driver
is the same as the release for 3 of the 4 components 5-17-05. This
MOSTLY works as advertised.

I didn't have to use Regedit when using the ATI unstall utility. BEFORE
the 4 steps you mentioned I loaded

SP2
..NET Framework Version 1.1
directx 9.0c
CCC5.5



This is what I wrote 12-31-05. I have since found out about leaving DTV
on a DIFFERENT channel.

Suggestions for using 'schedule record' in MMC 9.08

1: type any name at all for the recording. It will change it to
something else, usually what channel it was last used but seems to make
the file name match the Library entry so it works. ALSO it goofs up the
library entry IF you leave DTV on the SAME channel it is programmed to
record.

You can 'Change Title' within Library to put in the actual show name
and it still
works. If it doesn't play from the Library, try 'File Player'. The
files are in a hidden folder. On my machine its

C:\documents and settings\<my user name>\application data\ATI MMC.

I have also played them by using Windows Explorer and double clicking
on one of the 2 Kbyte *.VCR files. To find the files you'll have to
select 'show hidden files' in the Windows 'folder options' ' view'
tab.

2: always select 'close MMC when complete' when scheduling a recording.
Needed if you're scheduling another record later.

3: always allow 1 minute between recordings. To avoid truncating the
shows, set your computer clock 10 seconds fast so it all begins a few
seconds before the start of the show.

4: Suggest NOT checking 'preserve TV on demand between sessions' in the
initialization wizard. If you leave it checked (default), it will chew
through your hard drive at 6-8 Gigs/hour and have a HUGE nmber of
selections in the Library.

5: Defragment the hard drive frequently -- like every week.

Good luck with this

GG
 
Biggy said:
I get on the average 18 channels several (7) HD channels and some side bands
DT and SD. I pickup the Toronto HD signals which include channel 9 CFTO ,
CBC and CITY TV and Sun all HD plus a some from Buffalo NY.

The funny thing is when I loaded the software the first time I had no
trouble I was getting channel 9-1 HD. The signal is 77 to 82 to percent,
after re-installing the software I just recevie the audio portion now. My
HDTV receives both audio and video no problem.

This really strange can't figure it out, why do I loose the video portion of
the signal. Oh yes one more thing I did notice one of the stations from
Buffalo shows a signal but I don't get anything on it. My HDTV also doesn't
receive anything on this channel as well.

To Bad I really like this channel :-(

As for the software what I found the installation procedure sure takes along
time and seems to have some bugs as well. I am still trying to get it right
after 5 days :-(

Then again it could be just me :-(
Get the WatchHDTV program. It uses the HDTV Wonder drivers but not
MMC(DTV). It's a very simple but useful program and may help troubleshoot
your problem, if it's in your system. It has a tuner tweak that DTV
doesn't(probably doesn't need it). I use it when I'm only kind of watching
(because recording to the HDD can be turned off) or to silent record when
doing something on the AIW that's connected to cable.
Not familiar with Canadian DTV but under the impression they are just
starting up. Expect a lot of problems first year anyway.
Good Luck.
 
T Shadow said:
Get the WatchHDTV program. It uses the HDTV Wonder drivers but not
MMC(DTV). It's a very simple but useful program and may help troubleshoot
your problem, if it's in your system. It has a tuner tweak that DTV
doesn't(probably doesn't need it). I use it when I'm only kind of watching
(because recording to the HDD can be turned off) or to silent record when
doing something on the AIW that's connected to cable.
Not familiar with Canadian DTV but under the impression they are just
starting up. Expect a lot of problems first year anyway.
Good Luck.

Thanks T Shadow for your help!

I have search all over the internet and found many others have exactly the
same problem, but no one has a real answer how solve it.

I have tried pretty well everything no luck.

But I know one thing for sure it has to do with ATI software again I think
it really sucks!

How do I know, well I installed another program Beyond TV and I had no
problem receiving video and audio on channel 9.

Sure wish ATI would get their act together.

My system is as follows

XP 2800
1g RAM PC 3200 400 MHz
ATI 2006 9600 266 DDR
200g hd
HDTV wonder
XP2 Pro Updated

All are newly purchased,

This has been the most difficult installation I have ever done on a
computer. Everything works except ATI HDTV.

If anyone really has answer to ATI software issue please let me know.

Thanks Again!
 
Biggy said:
snip

I have search all over the internet and found many others have exactly the
same problem, but no one has a real answer how solve it.

I have tried pretty well everything no luck.

But I know one thing for sure it has to do with ATI software again I think
it really sucks!

How do I know, well I installed another program Beyond TV and I had no
problem receiving video and audio on channel 9.

Sure wish ATI would get their act together.

My system is as follows

XP 2800
1g RAM PC 3200 400 MHz
ATI 2006 9600 266 DDR
200g hd
HDTV wonder
XP2 Pro Updated

All are newly purchased,

This has been the most difficult installation I have ever done on a
computer. Everything works except ATI HDTV.

If anyone really has answer to ATI software issue please let me know.

Thanks Again!
AFAIK others that had the same complaint as you seems they were using video
cards that did not conform to DX9. If Beyond TV is working maybe doing a
repair install of MMC would help. I have an AIW9600XT plus the HDTV Wonder
and haven't had any major problems with MMC since 9.03. Maybe I've just been
lucky.
 
Hi Shadow,

I called ATI and after waiting hour I finally got a tech went through
uninstall and then installation of their software which took 25 mins. No
luck :-( no solution so far. I am now trying to help ATI resolve this
problem.

I tried repairing MMC as you suggested, no luck but I did download a new
trial version of Beyond TV ver. 4 and it seems to work very nice I finally
can see and hear Channel 9 CFTO. The software installation went so easy
and I really like the way they setup their software for changing channels. I
haven't really tried recording or any other options, only viewing TV live so
far and I receive all stations.

As I see it until ATI gets their software issues solved maybe they should
include Beyond TV software or at least sent us a key to register Beyond TV
4.

I hope this helps others?

Thanks Again!
 
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