HDD recommendations for new mainbaord

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Hi,

I have recently purchased the P5GD1 Pro
(http://au.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=24&model=163&modelmenu=1
) mainboard, and today I'm about to add the HDD, CD-ROM & CD-RW, and
realised there is only _one_ IDE controller. (... doh).

The HDD is not a Serial ATA, I thought it would do, only a few months
old, 80Gb, but IDE, the 'old' type. I really do need to use that single
IDE controller for the CD-ROM and CD-RW, so my options were to either
buy an IDE card ($40), or a new SATA 80Gb HDD for $89. My thinking is
why mess around with an IDE card, when for another $49, I can get the
new type of HDD's, and also use RAID with it. I can't see any need at
all for using additional older drives, hence no real perceived need for
the IDE card, besides the 120Gb SATA at $110 seems even better value
(more Gb / dollar).

I haven't been able to research much into ATA hard drives, and only so
far, am looking at either one of these two:

* Western Digital IDE 120Gb 7200RPM ATA-100
* Seagate IDE 120Gb 7200RPM ATA-100

Can someone recommend which one would be better, or possibly some other
make/models can be recommended please ?

Thanks,

Peter
 
Hi,

I have recently purchased the P5GD1 Pro
(http://au.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=24&model=163&modelmenu=1
) mainboard, and today I'm about to add the HDD, CD-ROM & CD-RW, and
realised there is only _one_ IDE controller. (... doh).

The HDD is not a Serial ATA, I thought it would do, only a few months
old, 80Gb, but IDE, the 'old' type. I really do need to use that single
IDE controller for the CD-ROM and CD-RW, so my options were to either
buy an IDE card ($40), or a new SATA 80Gb HDD for $89. My thinking is
why mess around with an IDE card, when for another $49, I can get the
new type of HDD's, and also use RAID with it. I can't see any need at
all for using additional older drives, hence no real perceived need for
the IDE card, besides the 120Gb SATA at $110 seems even better value
(more Gb / dollar).

I haven't been able to research much into ATA hard drives, and only so
far, am looking at either one of these two:

* Western Digital IDE 120Gb 7200RPM ATA-100
* Seagate IDE 120Gb 7200RPM ATA-100

Can someone recommend which one would be better, or possibly some other
make/models can be recommended please ?

Thanks,

Peter
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Well actually you can get 4 devices on one IDE

Primary....master and slave
Secondary...master and slave
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Hi,
Well actually you can get 4 devices on one IDE

Primary....master and slave
Secondary...master and slave
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As stated in my original post, the mainboard only has one IDE
controller, so I cannot get 4 devices via that controller, only 2,
because it only has a primary IDE controller, ... no secondary at all.

The controllers that come with this mainboard are 4 SATA controllers,
in addition to the single IDE controller.

Can anyone recommend a Serial ATA 120Gb hard drive please.

Thanks,

Peter
 
Hi Peter,
the 2 that you listed are NOT SATA
SATA drives are listed as SATA drives with a 150speed rating.ATA is a
speed...ata100/ata133/ata66
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?minorcatid=109&subminorcatid=63
See how all the drives say SATA.......thats what your looking for
I use a couple of Western Digitals 120 in my machine and they work great
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Okay, thanks for the correction there, I thought those two were SATA.
I'm glad you responded now, because I was waiting on final prices, but
now will ask for prices on the Western Digital 120 that you use, and
also the Seagate 120, both of the ones shown on that website as SATA.

No doubt the faster speed rating will help, I'd like to set the drive
up as a RAID if I can work out how to do it.

Thanks,

Peter
 
I am not familiar with your board but on mine it says to use 2 SATA HD that
are the same before attempting RAID.
Since I have no intention of using RAID I just bought another SATA drive a
Seagate Barracuda120 for 99.00 $can.
The drives are rated at that speed but I doubt if that speed is attained
continously.
peterk
 
Hi,

I have recently purchased the P5GD1 Pro
(http://au.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=24&model=163&modelmenu=1
) mainboard, and today I'm about to add the HDD, CD-ROM & CD-RW, and
realised there is only _one_ IDE controller. (... doh).

The HDD is not a Serial ATA, I thought it would do, only a few months
old, 80Gb, but IDE, the 'old' type. I really do need to use that single
IDE controller for the CD-ROM and CD-RW, so my options were to either
buy an IDE card ($40), or a new SATA 80Gb HDD for $89. My thinking is
why mess around with an IDE card, when for another $49, I can get the
new type of HDD's, and also use RAID with it. I can't see any need at
all for using additional older drives, hence no real perceived need for
the IDE card, besides the 120Gb SATA at $110 seems even better value
(more Gb / dollar).

I haven't been able to research much into ATA hard drives, and only so
far, am looking at either one of these two:

* Western Digital IDE 120Gb 7200RPM ATA-100
* Seagate IDE 120Gb 7200RPM ATA-100

Can someone recommend which one would be better, or possibly some other
make/models can be recommended please ?

Thanks,

Peter
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I'd certainly choose the Seagate because of its 5-year warranty; the
others are only guaranteed one year and you'll be lucky beyond that
with most of the crap drives nowdays. On my system here I average
about one drive loss per year (excluding the SCSI main drive). I fail
to see any significant difference between brands, apart from the
warranty (that you'll likely need).

If you are really serious about performance forget about either IDE or
SATA. Real speed still belongs to SCSI, since it offloads the disk
operations to its own CPU. I use a Fujitsu 78 Gb 15,000 rpm Ultra-320
drive & Adaptec controller. This makes a world of difference in
booting up and loading programs. Drives this fast may not be
available in larger sizes, but the boot drive needn't be anyway. You
can pick up drives like this on eBay, usually pulled out of servers or
overstock.

-kBob
 
Hi Bob,
I'd certainly choose the Seagate because of its 5-year warranty; the
others are only guaranteed one year and you'll be lucky beyond that
with most of the crap drives nowdays.
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I had only just ordered a SATA Seagate Barracuda 120 Gb HDD, 7200 RPM,
8 Mb cache just this morning, and then saw your message. I have always
used Seagate, but did have a choice between Seagate and Western
Digital, and went for the Seagate because the only problems I have ever
had with them, was when the power supply dropped in and out every few
seconds, causing physical damage, ..... soon after that I bought a
small UPS. Actually, I have one Seagate 1.2 Gb that is over 10 years
old (I think it is that old), and decided to 'retire' it. The early
Barracuda drives apparently had heat problems, they say an egg could be
fried off them.
On my system here I average
about one drive loss per year (excluding the SCSI main drive). I fail
to see any significant difference between brands, apart from the
warranty (that you'll likely need).
Click to expand...

Wow, that is incredible, you must give the HDD's a lot of work.
If you are really serious about performance forget about either IDE or
SATA. Real speed still belongs to SCSI, since it offloads the disk
operations to its own CPU. I use a Fujitsu 78 Gb 15,000 rpm Ultra-320
drive & Adaptec controller. This makes a world of difference in
booting up and loading programs. Drives this fast may not be
available in larger sizes, but the boot drive needn't be anyway. You
can pick up drives like this on eBay, usually pulled out of servers or
overstock.
Click to expand...

It's just for desktop usage, and I'm sure I'm going to notice a big
difference between the ATA and SATA drives, in terms of performance.
It's not for server type usage, but that SCSI sounds a nice setup.

Thanks for your help,

Peter
 
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