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Pegasus \(MVP\)
dc said:
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D
dc
Had a HDD failure overnight. Installed working HDD and immediately
got a blue screen. Rebooted to the BIOS and noticed the HDD was
showing as Primary Slave, I had checked before install and I'm pretty
sure they were in Cable Select. I entered each section and backed out
the same way entered and saved. Entered section on Boot Devices and
reset 1st to Floppy, 2nd to DVD and 3rd to HDD, and saved. Rebooted
with a W98SE bootdisk with DVD support, waxed the old partitions, and
established one basic partition. Pulled the floppy and inserted a W2K
install CD and rebooted with it and the install went smooth.
Could have done without all of that preliminary hogwash I guess. I
did fail to mention the last time a format was attempt on that HDD, I
did with a OS CD and powered down before the install started, just
after the format was supposed to be complete.
After the install was successful, went back into the BIOS and the HDD
is still showing as Primary Slave. I don't have a problem, but a
question. How did this work?
Oh, the DVD is showing as the Secondary Master, as it should.
Sorry for taking band width. The MB is a FS51 Shuttle small form
factor
tia,
dcdon
got a blue screen. Rebooted to the BIOS and noticed the HDD was
showing as Primary Slave, I had checked before install and I'm pretty
sure they were in Cable Select. I entered each section and backed out
the same way entered and saved. Entered section on Boot Devices and
reset 1st to Floppy, 2nd to DVD and 3rd to HDD, and saved. Rebooted
with a W98SE bootdisk with DVD support, waxed the old partitions, and
established one basic partition. Pulled the floppy and inserted a W2K
install CD and rebooted with it and the install went smooth.
Could have done without all of that preliminary hogwash I guess. I
did fail to mention the last time a format was attempt on that HDD, I
did with a OS CD and powered down before the install started, just
after the format was supposed to be complete.
After the install was successful, went back into the BIOS and the HDD
is still showing as Primary Slave. I don't have a problem, but a
question. How did this work?
Oh, the DVD is showing as the Secondary Master, as it should.
Sorry for taking band width. The MB is a FS51 Shuttle small form
factor
tia,
dcdon
D
dc
| | > Had a HDD failure overnight. Installed working HDD and
immediately
| > got a blue screen. Rebooted to the BIOS and noticed the HDD was
| > showing as Primary Slave, I had checked before install and I'm
pretty
| > sure they were in Cable Select. I entered each section and backed
out
| > the same way entered and saved. Entered section on Boot Devices
and
| > reset 1st to Floppy, 2nd to DVD and 3rd to HDD, and saved.
Rebooted
| > with a W98SE bootdisk with DVD support, waxed the old partitions,
and
| > established one basic partition. Pulled the floppy and inserted a
W2K
| > install CD and rebooted with it and the install went smooth.
| >
| > Could have done without all of that preliminary hogwash I guess.
I
| > did fail to mention the last time a format was attempt on that
HDD, I
| > did with a OS CD and powered down before the install started,
just
| > after the format was supposed to be complete.
| >
| > After the install was successful, went back into the BIOS and the
HDD
| > is still showing as Primary Slave. I don't have a problem, but a
| > question. How did this work?
| >
| > Oh, the DVD is showing as the Secondary Master, as it should.
| >
| > Sorry for taking band width. The MB is a FS51 Shuttle small form
| > factor
| >
| > tia,
| > dcdon
|
| What actually is your question?
|
| P.S. Fix your clock and/or your time zone. You're posting in
| the future.
==============================
Hello Mr. Pegasus,
First, thank you for the heads up on my clock... Clean install and my
clock showed the same time as the other computers, so I didn't pay
any attention to it.
The question is, how did the HDD format and load the OS showing it as
a Primary Slave? There is NO primary Master. Thanks for your
enlightenment.
smiles,
dcdon
==============================
immediately
| > got a blue screen. Rebooted to the BIOS and noticed the HDD was
| > showing as Primary Slave, I had checked before install and I'm
pretty
| > sure they were in Cable Select. I entered each section and backed
out
| > the same way entered and saved. Entered section on Boot Devices
and
| > reset 1st to Floppy, 2nd to DVD and 3rd to HDD, and saved.
Rebooted
| > with a W98SE bootdisk with DVD support, waxed the old partitions,
and
| > established one basic partition. Pulled the floppy and inserted a
W2K
| > install CD and rebooted with it and the install went smooth.
| >
| > Could have done without all of that preliminary hogwash I guess.
I
| > did fail to mention the last time a format was attempt on that
HDD, I
| > did with a OS CD and powered down before the install started,
just
| > after the format was supposed to be complete.
| >
| > After the install was successful, went back into the BIOS and the
HDD
| > is still showing as Primary Slave. I don't have a problem, but a
| > question. How did this work?
| >
| > Oh, the DVD is showing as the Secondary Master, as it should.
| >
| > Sorry for taking band width. The MB is a FS51 Shuttle small form
| > factor
| >
| > tia,
| > dcdon
|
| What actually is your question?
|
| P.S. Fix your clock and/or your time zone. You're posting in
| the future.
==============================
Hello Mr. Pegasus,
First, thank you for the heads up on my clock... Clean install and my
clock showed the same time as the other computers, so I didn't pay
any attention to it.
The question is, how did the HDD format and load the OS showing it as
a Primary Slave? There is NO primary Master. Thanks for your
enlightenment.
smiles,
dcdon
==============================
F
Frank Booth Snr
Whether the disk is formatted should not be relevant to the BIOS issue.dc said:After the install was successful, went back into the BIOS and the HDD
is still showing as Primary Slave. I don't have a problem, but a
question. How did this work?
It's possibly showing there as 'slave', because that's where the hdd is
positioned on the cable ribbon, or possibly you have incorrect
jumpering. What is make of drive, and is it attached on the end
connector or middle one?
P
Pegasus \(MVP\)
dc said:| | > Had a HDD failure overnight. Installed working HDD and
immediately
| > got a blue screen. Rebooted to the BIOS and noticed the HDD was
| > showing as Primary Slave, I had checked before install and I'm
pretty
| > sure they were in Cable Select. I entered each section and backed
out
| > the same way entered and saved. Entered section on Boot Devices
and
| > reset 1st to Floppy, 2nd to DVD and 3rd to HDD, and saved.
Rebooted
| > with a W98SE bootdisk with DVD support, waxed the old partitions,
and
| > established one basic partition. Pulled the floppy and inserted a
W2K
| > install CD and rebooted with it and the install went smooth.
| >
| > Could have done without all of that preliminary hogwash I guess.
I
| > did fail to mention the last time a format was attempt on that
HDD, I
| > did with a OS CD and powered down before the install started,
just
| > after the format was supposed to be complete.
| >
| > After the install was successful, went back into the BIOS and the
HDD
| > is still showing as Primary Slave. I don't have a problem, but a
| > question. How did this work?
| >
| > Oh, the DVD is showing as the Secondary Master, as it should.
| >
| > Sorry for taking band width. The MB is a FS51 Shuttle small form
| > factor
| >
| > tia,
| > dcdon
|
| What actually is your question?
|
| P.S. Fix your clock and/or your time zone. You're posting in
| the future.
==============================
Hello Mr. Pegasus,
First, thank you for the heads up on my clock... Clean install and my
clock showed the same time as the other computers, so I didn't pay
any attention to it.
The question is, how did the HDD format and load the OS showing it as
a Primary Slave? There is NO primary Master. Thanks for your
enlightenment.
smiles,
dcdon
==============================
Newer versions of Windows appear to have the ability at times to
boot off a slave disk. I have seen this several times before but with
no consistency. I would not rely on it.
D
dc
| dc wrote:
| > After the install was successful, went back into the BIOS and the
HDD
| > is still showing as Primary Slave. I don't have a problem, but a
| > question. How did this work?
| >
| Whether the disk is formatted should not be relevant to the BIOS
issue.
| It's possibly showing there as 'slave', because that's where the
hdd is
| positioned on the cable ribbon, or possibly you have incorrect
| jumpering. What is make of drive, and is it attached on the end
| connector or middle one?
========================
Hello again and Thanks,
The pdf for the jumpering I obtained at Amazon.com. Here is the link.
It's left side near the top.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007L65R
I've double checked both your suggestions.
I checked it to be on EF+BD, and that was where it was located for
cable select.
I had put the ribbon cable in the correct location.
I've loaded everything without a hitch.
The only thing that bothered me was getting the blue screen the first
time I turned it on. After checking in the BIOS the first time, and
not doing anything exception changing the boot order items and
saving, didn't have any further trouble. But I was just curious after
loading the OS if anything had changed and it had not. I really don't
think it will hurt anything, just floored me that it reported it as
slave. Guess I could go back and jump it to master, instead of cable
select. What do you think?
thank you again,
dcdon
=========================
| > After the install was successful, went back into the BIOS and the
HDD
| > is still showing as Primary Slave. I don't have a problem, but a
| > question. How did this work?
| >
| Whether the disk is formatted should not be relevant to the BIOS
issue.
| It's possibly showing there as 'slave', because that's where the
hdd is
| positioned on the cable ribbon, or possibly you have incorrect
| jumpering. What is make of drive, and is it attached on the end
| connector or middle one?
========================
Hello again and Thanks,
The pdf for the jumpering I obtained at Amazon.com. Here is the link.
It's left side near the top.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007L65R
I've double checked both your suggestions.
I checked it to be on EF+BD, and that was where it was located for
cable select.
I had put the ribbon cable in the correct location.
I've loaded everything without a hitch.
The only thing that bothered me was getting the blue screen the first
time I turned it on. After checking in the BIOS the first time, and
not doing anything exception changing the boot order items and
saving, didn't have any further trouble. But I was just curious after
loading the OS if anything had changed and it had not. I really don't
think it will hurt anything, just floored me that it reported it as
slave. Guess I could go back and jump it to master, instead of cable
select. What do you think?
thank you again,
dcdon
=========================
D
dc
|
| | >
| > | > | | > | > Had a HDD failure overnight. Installed working HDD and
| > immediately
| > | > got a blue screen. Rebooted to the BIOS and noticed the HDD
was
| > | > showing as Primary Slave, I had checked before install and
I'm
| > pretty
| > | > sure they were in Cable Select. I entered each section and
backed
| > out
| > | > the same way entered and saved. Entered section on Boot
Devices
| > and
| > | > reset 1st to Floppy, 2nd to DVD and 3rd to HDD, and saved.
| > Rebooted
| > | > with a W98SE bootdisk with DVD support, waxed the old
partitions,
| > and
| > | > established one basic partition. Pulled the floppy and
inserted a
| > W2K
| > | > install CD and rebooted with it and the install went smooth.
| > | >
| > | > Could have done without all of that preliminary hogwash I
guess.
| > I
| > | > did fail to mention the last time a format was attempt on
that
| > HDD, I
| > | > did with a OS CD and powered down before the install started,
| > just
| > | > after the format was supposed to be complete.
| > | >
| > | > After the install was successful, went back into the BIOS and
the
| > HDD
| > | > is still showing as Primary Slave. I don't have a problem,
but a
| > | > question. How did this work?
| > | >
| > | > Oh, the DVD is showing as the Secondary Master, as it should.
| > | >
| > | > Sorry for taking band width. The MB is a FS51 Shuttle small
form
| > | > factor
| > | >
| > | > tia,
| > | > dcdon
| > |
| > | What actually is your question?
| > |
| > | P.S. Fix your clock and/or your time zone. You're posting in
| > | the future.
| >
| > ==============================
| > Hello Mr. Pegasus,
| >
| > First, thank you for the heads up on my clock... Clean install
and my
| > clock showed the same time as the other computers, so I didn't
pay
| > any attention to it.
| >
| > The question is, how did the HDD format and load the OS showing
it as
| > a Primary Slave? There is NO primary Master. Thanks for your
| > enlightenment.
| >
| > smiles,
| > dcdon
| > ==============================
|
| Newer versions of Windows appear to have the ability at times to
| boot off a slave disk. I have seen this several times before but
with
| no consistency. I would not rely on it.
|
=========================
Thank you for the enlightenment. Does, "I would not rely on it" mean
that I should take some corrective action now, and if so what would
that be? To pull the box down and repin to master rather than cable
select. The pins are in the following diagram are plugged into EF+BD.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007L65R
(pdf located on left near top)
I also noticed the post fragmentation in our replies. My line length
is set at 69. Should I change this to better the post structure?
thanks (and I still think you have a great approach to your method)
dcdon
P.S. We had that conversation several years ago. Didn't know if you
would recall without this added. Thanks Peg.
=========================
| | >
| > | > | | > | > Had a HDD failure overnight. Installed working HDD and
| > immediately
| > | > got a blue screen. Rebooted to the BIOS and noticed the HDD
was
| > | > showing as Primary Slave, I had checked before install and
I'm
| > pretty
| > | > sure they were in Cable Select. I entered each section and
backed
| > out
| > | > the same way entered and saved. Entered section on Boot
Devices
| > and
| > | > reset 1st to Floppy, 2nd to DVD and 3rd to HDD, and saved.
| > Rebooted
| > | > with a W98SE bootdisk with DVD support, waxed the old
partitions,
| > and
| > | > established one basic partition. Pulled the floppy and
inserted a
| > W2K
| > | > install CD and rebooted with it and the install went smooth.
| > | >
| > | > Could have done without all of that preliminary hogwash I
guess.
| > I
| > | > did fail to mention the last time a format was attempt on
that
| > HDD, I
| > | > did with a OS CD and powered down before the install started,
| > just
| > | > after the format was supposed to be complete.
| > | >
| > | > After the install was successful, went back into the BIOS and
the
| > HDD
| > | > is still showing as Primary Slave. I don't have a problem,
but a
| > | > question. How did this work?
| > | >
| > | > Oh, the DVD is showing as the Secondary Master, as it should.
| > | >
| > | > Sorry for taking band width. The MB is a FS51 Shuttle small
form
| > | > factor
| > | >
| > | > tia,
| > | > dcdon
| > |
| > | What actually is your question?
| > |
| > | P.S. Fix your clock and/or your time zone. You're posting in
| > | the future.
| >
| > ==============================
| > Hello Mr. Pegasus,
| >
| > First, thank you for the heads up on my clock... Clean install
and my
| > clock showed the same time as the other computers, so I didn't
pay
| > any attention to it.
| >
| > The question is, how did the HDD format and load the OS showing
it as
| > a Primary Slave? There is NO primary Master. Thanks for your
| > enlightenment.
| >
| > smiles,
| > dcdon
| > ==============================
|
| Newer versions of Windows appear to have the ability at times to
| boot off a slave disk. I have seen this several times before but
with
| no consistency. I would not rely on it.
|
=========================
Thank you for the enlightenment. Does, "I would not rely on it" mean
that I should take some corrective action now, and if so what would
that be? To pull the box down and repin to master rather than cable
select. The pins are in the following diagram are plugged into EF+BD.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007L65R
(pdf located on left near top)
I also noticed the post fragmentation in our replies. My line length
is set at 69. Should I change this to better the post structure?
thanks (and I still think you have a great approach to your method)
dcdon
P.S. We had that conversation several years ago. Didn't know if you
would recall without this added. Thanks Peg.
=========================
F
Frank Booth Snr
For the time being ignore the BSOD. You need to get a correct hdd specdc said:Hello again and Thanks,
The pdf for the jumpering I obtained at Amazon.com. Here is the link.
It's left side near the top.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007L65R
I've double checked both your suggestions.
I checked it to be on EF+BD, and that was where it was located for
cable select.
I had put the ribbon cable in the correct location.
I've loaded everything without a hitch.
The only thing that bothered me was getting the blue screen the first
time I turned it on. After checking in the BIOS the first time, and
not doing anything exception changing the boot order items and
saving, didn't have any further trouble. But I was just curious after
loading the OS if anything had changed and it had not. I really don't
think it will hurt anything, just floored me that it reported it as
slave. Guess I could go back and jump it to master, instead of cable
select. What do you think?
reading in CMOS (BIOS) first.
The jumpering diagram is very odd. I've never used Samsung hdds, but on
all other makes I've seen only one jumper is required, regardless of
disk size. However I've checked on Samsungs site and can confirm their
weird jumpering diagram. I suggest you switch jumpers to master position
AB FH position as shown on diagram. I assume there is no other device
attached to the cable. Please confirm.
I'm not sure what you mean by "I had put the ribbon cable in the correct
location". On WHICH ribbon connector did you actually attach the drive?
It must be the end connector on the cable. Please confirm. Go into CMOS.
In the CMOS is the drive properly recognised for (a) Correct capacity
(120GB), (b) As Master, (c) On IDE 0 controller?? Depending on the BIOS
you may have to press Return to autodetect disk and reconfigure to
correct reading. Is this now showing correctly?