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Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there is a freeware program that can transfer an exact
image of a hard drive (it full) to another larger hard drive so it can
replace the smaller drive and boot up the computer without having to reload
any of the programs. I assume I would have to change the cmos to reflect the
larger drive.
TIA Col
 
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there is a freeware program that can transfer an
exact image of a hard drive (it full) to another larger hard drive so
it can replace the smaller drive and boot up the computer without
having to reload any of the programs. I assume I would have to change
the cmos to reflect the larger drive.
TIA Col

HDCopy 2.104

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=1288

FDisk and Format your new drive.
Set the new drive as a slave on the same ide cable or as master at the
other,
open HDCopy and copy the entire "C" drive to the new "D" drive or
whatever it is designated by windows. Shut down.
Remove your original drive , set
the new drive to be the only drive, if you havent't done so use fdisk to
set the primary
partition to active, and reboot. That's it.
 
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there is a freeware program that can transfer an exact
image of a hard drive (it full) to another larger hard drive so it can
replace the smaller drive and boot up the computer without having to reload
any of the programs. I assume I would have to change the cmos to reflect the
larger drive.

This is not an image, but it will produce a perfect bootable copy!

http://www.xxcopy.com/

http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy10.htm

Works like a charm!
 
But, only through 98...will not do this with XP.

"Note: This version is compatible with WinXP SP1 and Win2K SP3."

I looked around and see nothing about XP exceptions. Can you direct
me? I just recommended to a friend an hour ago. I need to set the
record straight if it's not going to work for him.
 
As yet there are no known *freeware* imaging
programs ala Ghost, TerraByte, and others. But ..
TerraByte, at least, permits a working download
for trial and which expects you to pay for it if you
continue to use it. I did ... it was cheap and did
everything Ghost does at a fraction of the price.
 
I looked around and see nothing about XP exceptions. Can you direct
me? I just recommended to a friend an hour ago. I need to set the
record straight if it's not going to work for him.

This was in XXCopy Technical Bulletin Number 10 revised November 7,
2003:

The technique discussed in this article applies primarily for Windows
9x and ME cases. If your C: drive is loaded with Win NT4/2000/XP, you
will not get a bootable disk. If you have a dual-boot system (Win 9X
and NT/2000/XP), then it is best you perform the operation from Win
9x. But even in that case, the newly cloned drive will not be
dual-bootable because XXCOPY does not touch the Master Boot Record
(MBR) of a hard disk (we believe it should be handled by FDISK or
other tools). As of this writing, we do not have a simple solution to
reliably produce a bootable system disk for an NT4/2000/XP system
using the XXCOPY utility.
 
For 98 or ME. I found where it says xxcopy will not clone a bootable
XP partition :(
Wouldn't an older version of MaxBlast do what you need done? A link was
posted here a few weeks back. Maybe you can run it down along with the
thread containing, as I recall, a pretty good explaination of what to do
with that version of MaxBlast to get what you want done. juzme

http://tinyurl.com/36t3f

From the articles I see Maxblast did not make a clone.

"With the MaxBlast plus, I can partition and format the drive,
but I could not make an image copy of my C drive. The software
either hung up or gave me the following error messages:

Although the partitions were successfully created, formatting
of drive 2 failed.
Because copying of drive 1 to drive 2 failed.
Because copying of partition 1 failed.
Because directory Windows could not be copied.
Because directory Options could not be copied.
Because directory Wininf could not be copied.
Because directory Easy, ISDN, INF could not be copied.
There was a device select error on drive 2.

I have tried MaxBlast plus on another WD 6.4 GB hard drive,
it always hung up after formatting. The format processing was
amazingly fast, but the image copy never worked. This led me to
find a solution from the XXCOPY utility software from PixeLab."


Does anyone have a bootable clone solution for XP?

Xxcopy works perfectly for 98SE (and ME also I presume).


In this thread SOS suggests Maxblast v1.26 or v1.27:

http://tinyurl.com/22gdn

"Here's a link to the best version: Maxblast Plus v1.26 or 1.27s :)
Took some searching but this is the real deal..."

The link has changed to:

http://members.shaw.ca/rinocanada/hdutils.htm

There is still a problem of an old utility and a new OS (XP).

"Copy the MAXBLAST FILE to your Hard drive. This file can be run at a
DOS prompt or in a Windows environment (Windows 3.x, Windows 95A,
Windows 95B or Windows 98). The utility to create the MaxBlast Plus
diskette cannot be executed from a floppy disk, and cannot be executed
under Windows NT or OS/2."

I have no idea of the cloning abilities, I haven't tried it.
 
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there is a freeware program that can transfer an exact
image of a hard drive (it full) to another larger hard drive so it can
replace the smaller drive and boot up the computer without having to reload
any of the programs. I assume I would have to change the cmos to reflect the
larger drive.
TIA Col

First, you do not state the operating system you are using.
This makes an important difference calling for mostly
different answers. If you are using an OS other than XP/NT
based, the remainder of my answer can be ignored, dismissed
and flushed as inapplicable to your case.

Next, you may or may not have to do anything with the CMOS
depending on your machine. You may be able to get an update
for your BIOS from the machine or MB manufacturer if you
need anything at all. Many machines built over recent years
have no problem with this. Windows 9x will have a partition
size limit for the boot partition of about 8GB IIRC which
means you need more than one partition with most currently
available drives. WindowsXP essentially is not limited in
this way and can handle the big drives with only the machine
being the limiting factor. This generally applies only to
the active boot partition and not to any extended or logical
partitions which can be much larger. Personally, I wouldn't
even think about using a boot partition using the entire
drive.

Over the past several months, I have had several occasions
where I needed to replicate or move to a larger hard drive
because of the increase in graphical storage requirements.
After some rather extensive searching, I do not believe
there is any "freeware" that is a complete solution in one
package when you are using WindowsXP. If you are using Win
9x, there are several including xxcopy which can accomplish
the job in conjunction with or without fdisk. The closest I
have found to being a complete easy to use package is the
free version of CasperXP below.

http://www.fssdev.com/products/casperxp/

It is limited to replicating the hard drive using partitions
of identical size to the original leaving the remainder of a
larger hard drive unallocated. It cannot replicate to a
smaller hard drive AFIK. For the unallocated space, you can
use fdisk to install an additional partition after the drive
is replicated. For resizing partitions without losing data,
you can look for one of the Linux utilities to do that after
replicating the drive. I am sure there are several. There
are, of course, several popular packages that can get the
job done with many more features.

For my own solution, I chose to get off the few extra
dollars and download the commercial version of CasperXP
which allows resizing the partitions automatically or
manually or, even, adding a partion during the replication
process. I find either version to be every bit as fast or
faster than other replicators being able to complete the job
of replicating an 80GB drive in just over an hour on my
machine. The process is simple and fast enough along with
the fact that a 160GB HD can be had for $80US these days
that I use it for backup instead of other methads. If I
need, I can restore the needed components individually in
short order or simply replace the complete drive in a couple
of minutes ready to be back in business. This can be done
with either version.

I apologize for the mention of commercial ware in this NG,
but I just have not been able to find "freeware" that can
accomplish this task reliably or efficiently with the
WindowsXP system.

Good luck
 
Richard Steven Hack said:
This was in XXCopy Technical Bulletin Number 10 revised November 7,
2003:

The technique discussed in this article applies primarily for Windows
9x and ME cases. If your C: drive is loaded with Win NT4/2000/XP, you
will not get a bootable disk. If you have a dual-boot system (Win 9X
and NT/2000/XP), then it is best you perform the operation from Win
9x. But even in that case, the newly cloned drive will not be
dual-bootable because XXCOPY does not touch the Master Boot Record
(MBR) of a hard disk (we believe it should be handled by FDISK or
other tools). As of this writing, we do not have a simple solution to
reliably produce a bootable system disk for an NT4/2000/XP system
using the XXCOPY utility.

<? OT>

BTW, I notice the author has a beta project, for XP cloning:

http://www.xxclone.com/

I have seen no words on whether this project is headed in the freeware or
payware direction. I'm guessing the latter, but that's just an airy
speculation. As to right now, its betaware(*), which appears to be free for
use by anyone who wishes to sign up for the download.

(*betaware - and see below on the timeout and renewal situation)


Quoting web page (kind of excessively, please excuse):

| Now, with the new XXCLONE utility, cloning the XP system disk
| cannot be easier. Just select the drives and click the start button.
| The rest of the job will be taken care by XXCLONE.
|
| Initial backup may take anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour or
| more, depending on the amount of the data on the drive. Unlike other
| disk imaging tools, XXCLONE can incrementally save only the files
| that have been changed since the previous cloning.
|
| If you are installing a new hard with a larger capacity, the entire
| system disk (C:) can be cloned to the new drive. When XXCLONE
| finishes its job, you may swap the old system disk with the new one
| for a reboot. You will feel exactly where you were with the old
| drive, except, of course, with a lot more space in the drive.
|
| Or, the cloned disk can be kept as the destination for the daily
| backup. When you accidentally lose a file in the main disk, the
| copy you backed up last night is alway there. In the rare event of
| catastrophic failure of the main disk, the cloned disk is ready to
| replace the failed drive. Your computer will be back in operation
| within minutes.
|
| XXCLONE is a new product developed by the same software development
| team who created the highly acclaimed XXCOPY. While XXCOPY was
| primarily targeted for professional and advanced users, XXCLONE is
| designed with everyone in mind.
|
| The simple GUI design let anyone do the cloning job without hassle.
|
|
|
| Note: This beta test version will expire within 30 days from the
| release date of the program. We intend to release the next version
| before the current beta test version expires. If you *MUST* operate
| a verion of XXCLONE which does not expire (after a successful
| testing of the current version on your system), please contact
| Pixelab.
|
| The current version of XXCLONE works only on Windows NT/2K/XP.
| It does not support Windows 95/98/ME.
| It does not support non-standard partitionings or boot control
| schemes such as BootMagic.
| It may not work with SCSI-interfaced disks.


</? OT>
 
omega said:
Richard Steven Hack <[email protected]>:
[snip]

<? OT>

Just after posting occurs to me my notation above could be misread. It was
to preface what I wanted to add in - and absolutely was /not/ suggesting that
the preceding part of the discussion (about freeware XXCopy) was OT.
 
Richard Steven Hack said:
There's a free version? Can't see it on the site. Do you have a direct
URL?
======================================

There are still a lot of visitors to a.c.f that confuse the
terms 'freeware' with 'free download'. It is trialware
that does not expire, but it expects you to pay if kept.
 
There are still a lot of visitors to a.c.f that confuse the
terms 'freeware' with 'free download'. It is trialware
that does not expire, but it expects you to pay if kept.

Okay, that solves that.

Only reason I was interested is because I've just got a copy of
Windows XP and also I thought it might be useful to my tech support
clients to know about it. I kept the URL though since it's still an
interesting product if it works as advertised. But it's not freeware.
 
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:54:01 GMT, "netnews" <Chief
URL?
======================================

There are still a lot of visitors to a.c.f that confuse the
terms 'freeware' with 'free download'. It is trialware
that does not expire, but it expects you to pay if kept.

I suppose it could also be called crippleware. It is in the
"Free Stuff" category on the url I posted. You are correct
that it is trial ware but, the way I read it, the software
is free hoping you will purchase the full version. I see no
limitation of using it as freeware as long as you are
willing to put up with it's limitations which I tried to
express in my response above. It remains a very effective
way to replicate a hard drive very quickly and efficiently
as long as you can use the same size partitions or, don't
mind using an additional utility to complete the partition
adjustments. It is the only thing I have found that is
capable of moving windows xp without having to make
additional tweaks or even re-install win xp to get the
machine back up. Shuck, you don't even have to re-activate
the thing - windows doesn't even know it has been moved to a
replacement drive. I wouls also be interested in learning
there is something as good or better with no strings
attached.

Regards to all.
 
lugnut wrote in said:
I suppose it could also be called crippleware. It is in the
"Free Stuff" category on the url I posted. You are correct
that it is trial ware but, the way I read it, the software
is free hoping you will purchase the full version.

[...]

Therefore, it is *not* freeware -- period.
 
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there is a freeware program that can transfer an exact
image of a hard drive (it full) to another larger hard drive so it can
replace the smaller drive and boot up the computer without having to reload
any of the programs. I assume I would have to change the cmos to reflect the
larger drive.
TIA Col

If you've got a fat enough pipe to download and burn Knoppix, you could
give that a try (bottom of the page):

http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/ImageYourHardDriveUsingKnoppix
 
I suppose it could also be called crippleware. It is in the
"Free Stuff" category on the url I posted. You are correct
that it is trial ware but, the way I read it, the software
is free hoping you will purchase the full version.

[...]

Therefore, it is *not* freeware -- period.

Why? The website is pretty confusing. It is listed under "free stuff,"
which certainly implies freeware. But the program description refers to
it as a "30-day trial version," which implies shareware. So what makes
you so certain that it's not freeware?

http://www.fssdev.com/products/free/

"30-day trial version of Casper XP. While fully operational, this trial
version does not provide support for volume resizing. For example, using
the trial version of Casper XP to copy a 10GB drive to a new 100GB hard
disk will result in a 10GB copy being created on the 100GB hard disk; the
additional 90GB of space on the new hard disk will remain unpartitioned
space. This is only a limitation of the trial version. The full release
version of Casper XP will permit the copy of the 10GB drive to be resized
to 100GB, making the additional 90GB of free space on the drive available
for new files, folders, and programs. (Download size approximately 2.5 MB
)."

As limitations go, that's pretty negligible, considering there is
freeware that will handle resizing.

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Why? The website is pretty confusing. It is listed under "free stuff,"
which certainly implies freeware. But the program description refers to
it as a "30-day trial version," which implies shareware. So what makes
you so certain that it's not freeware?
</snip>

Freeware does not;

1. Contain adverts (adware)
2. Require payment (shareware/commercialware)
3. Require registration (registrationware)
4. Have crippled features (crippleware)
5. Contain time limits (trialware)

Freeware is software that is completely free of costs on the users part and
does not require the user hand over any personal information (name, address,
e-mail etc) before they are permitted to use it, or during use of such
software. Any software that is one or more of the above 5, is NOT freeware.
 
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