HD crash. Need some help

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Carpenter

Here's what I have.


C: drive was giving the old clunk of death, click ,clunk. the PC
locked up and when I rebotted it would load up till the WIN XP logo
appeared then it locked upand went to a blue screen.
the error was that the drive was not able to me mounted or something
to that effect.
I put a new hard drive in. My BIOS can detect the old drive, Win XP
does not list it but it appears under disk management although it
won't initialize. I've tried a few disk utilites ( run times disk
explorer, and stellar phoenix for ntfs) Stellar Phoenix can scan the
drive but after 18 hours it it was at 80% completion and just started
at the begining again.

is this hopless or is there a better utility i can try.

Any advice would be helpful.

Thanks

Carpenter
 
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Hi

Have a look at http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm - its not free but
is a very good data recovery program. Sounds like the HD is more or
loss ****ed if its making noises but Spinrite may be able to help you
get the data off it.

Thanks.

Rich

Here's what I have.


C: drive was giving the old clunk of death, click ,clunk. the PC
locked up and when I rebotted it would load up till the WIN XP logo
appeared then it locked upand went to a blue screen.
the error was that the drive was not able to me mounted or
something
to that effect.
I put a new hard drive in. My BIOS can detect the old drive, Win XP
does not list it but it appears under disk management although it
won't initialize. I've tried a few disk utilites ( run times disk
explorer, and stellar phoenix for ntfs) Stellar Phoenix can scan
the drive but after 18 hours it it was at 80% completion and just
started at the begining again.

is this hopless or is there a better utility i can try.

Any advice would be helpful.

Thanks

Carpenter
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Here's what I have.


C: drive was giving the old clunk of death, click ,clunk. the PC
locked up and when I rebotted it would load up till the WIN XP logo
appeared then it locked upand went to a blue screen.
the error was that the drive was not able to me mounted or something
to that effect.
I put a new hard drive in.
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And you partitioned and formatted it?
My BIOS can detect the old drive,
Click to expand...

With the old drive out?...or do you have both drives in?
Win XP
does not list it
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Take all your 'its' out...and put in 'old drive' or 'new drive'.

Did you partition, format, and install XP on the new drive?
but it appears under disk management although it
won't initialize. I've tried a few disk utilites ( run times disk
explorer, and stellar phoenix for ntfs) Stellar Phoenix can scan the
drive but after 18 hours it it was at 80% completion and just started
at the begining again.

is this hopless or is there a better utility i can try.
Click to expand...

Let us know what you did for the new drive...other than just
physically install it into the machine.



Have a nice week...

Trent©

NUDITY...birth control for folks over 50!
 
Here's what I have.


C: drive was giving the old clunk of death, click ,clunk. the PC
locked up and when I rebotted it would load up till the WIN XP logo
appeared then it locked upand went to a blue screen.
the error was that the drive was not able to me mounted or something
to that effect.
I put a new hard drive in. My BIOS can detect the old drive, Win XP
does not list it but it appears under disk management although it
won't initialize. I've tried a few disk utilites ( run times disk
explorer, and stellar phoenix for ntfs) Stellar Phoenix can scan the
drive but after 18 hours it it was at 80% completion and just started
at the begining again.

is this hopless or is there a better utility i can try.

Any advice would be helpful.

Thanks

Carpenter
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Take the old drive back out.

Send it to a data recovery company and pay them thousands of dollars to
retrieve all the data they can.

Other than that, welcome to the land of those who lost everything in a
hd crash.

(at least it wasn't your fault... I once told xp setup to format the
wrong partition...)
 
Here's what I have.


C: drive was giving the old clunk of death, click ,clunk. the PC
locked up and when I rebotted it would load up till the WIN XP logo
appeared then it locked upand went to a blue screen.
the error was that the drive was not able to me mounted or something
to that effect.
I put a new hard drive in. My BIOS can detect the old drive, Win XP
does not list it but it appears under disk management although it
won't initialize. I've tried a few disk utilites ( run times disk
explorer, and stellar phoenix for ntfs) Stellar Phoenix can scan the
drive but after 18 hours it it was at 80% completion and just started
at the begining again.

is this hopless or is there a better utility i can try.

Any advice would be helpful.

Thanks

Carpenter
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Do a google search on . . .

200 ways to revive a hard drive

Various html and pdf versions to choose from. Might help you out.
 
And you partitioned and formatted it?
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Yes, new drive is 200 gig partitioned as follows 1-10 gig 1- 90
gig and 1 -100gig
With the old drive out?...or do you have both drives in?
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Both drives are in. I better add that although the BIOS sees the old
drive there is some coruption when it list the make and model the name
is right but the model comes up as ST-310##########3kjj### it is a
40gig seagate
Take all your 'its' out...and put in 'old drive' or 'new drive'.

Did you partition, format, and install XP on the new drive?
Click to expand...

Yes, win XP is on the new drive on a 10gig partition
 
Carpenter said:
Here's what I have.


C: drive was giving the old clunk of death, click ,clunk. the PC
locked up and when I rebotted it would load up till the WIN XP logo
appeared then it locked upand went to a blue screen.
the error was that the drive was not able to me mounted or something
to that effect.
I put a new hard drive in. My BIOS can detect the old drive, Win XP
does not list it but it appears under disk management although it
won't initialize. I've tried a few disk utilites ( run times disk
explorer, and stellar phoenix for ntfs) Stellar Phoenix can scan the
drive but after 18 hours it it was at 80% completion and just started
at the begining again.

is this hopless or is there a better utility i can try.

Any advice would be helpful.
Click to expand...

If the data is important to you, you could invest in a specialist HD
recovery unit
http://products.geappliances.com/ProdContent/images/t06/0000013/r13063v-1.jpg
 
A recap thought, I guess...

What are you trying to ACCOMPLISH now?

Are you trying to check the integrity of the old drive? If so, put it
in the machine as the only drive...then boot to a floppy to do your
diagnostics.

If you don't need the data on it, I'd start with a re-partition and
re-format.

Let us know what yer tryin' to do.



Have a nice week...

Trent©

NUDITY...birth control for folks over 50!
 
Yes, new drive is 200 gig partitioned as follows 1-10 gig 1- 90
gig and 1 -100gig
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Which drive is your boot drive? Do you have them both on the same
controller? Did you set the jumpers on BOTH drives properly?
Both drives are in. I better add that although the BIOS sees the old
drive there is some coruption when it list the make and model the name
is right but the model comes up as ST-310##########3kjj### it is a
40gig seagate
Click to expand...

Is the ATA speed on the new drive (both drives, actually) set to match
the FSB of the mainboard? Are you usin' the proper IDE cables? If
this is the IDE cable that you always used on the old drive, try
swapping cables.


Have a nice week...

Trent©

NUDITY...birth control for folks over 50!
 
Trent© said:
Let us know what yer tryin' to do.
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I thought it was obvious. He's trying to retrieve the data off the old drive before throwing it in the bin. He can't boot of it (the
old drive for you trent :-) so he's installed a new drive and put XP on it (the new drive). This is exactly the procedure I followed
when a customer's drive crashed with 363 days worth of unbacked up accounting data on it on 28th june and it worked well enough.
Although it seems the OPs drive is in much worse shape than the one I had!

Here's some tips for the OP:
Disk utilities in the situation might make things worse than they already are, I would try all other options first. Basically
anything that just reads from the drive without writing to it should be used first.
The boot from floppy idea that someone suggested is a good idea, I believe there is software available so a bootable floppy will
read an ntfs partition.
Maybe the circuit board on the hdd is faulty or even the cable or the IDE controller. The type of drive would be stored on a chip
somewhere I would imagine and if this is coming back corrupt it seems to indicated that the board is faulty rather than the
platters. If this is the case disk recovery software will just **** things up even more. Try getting another board if possible.
Or, just restore from your backups. :-)
 
yak said:
(at least it wasn't your fault... I once told xp setup to format the
wrong partition...)
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I've done that before, I formatted what I thought was a new drive. About half way through I looked down at the drive that was not in
the PC and thought to myself "why have I got 2 new drives?".
 
When there's messed name string, there might be some problem with wires.
Check if you have one drive master, second slave, or both at different wires
(its the best solution)
(suppose you are using PATA)
Maybe there is some problem with IC on old HDD.

btw, if you get your old HDD working back again, throw it out or use it just
as swap-drive or so. It would fall out damaged again after some time.

Zdenek Sojka
 
Michael said:
I've done that before, I formatted what I thought was a new drive. About half way through I looked down at the drive that was not in
the PC and thought to myself "why have I got 2 new drives?".
Click to expand...

In those cases I find that the damage doesn't hurt as badly as the humility.
 
Here is an up date.
Put the drive in the deep freez for 3 hours. Stuck it in the box,
booted it up and windows could see the drive. It said it was not
allocated and but "R_STUDIO- NTFS was able to scan it and recover
about 6 gig of the 37 that where there before it shit the bed again.
I'm just getting ready for my 3rd run from the freezer to the office.

who would of thunk it.

Carpenter
 
CARPENTER said:
Here is an up date.
Put the drive in the deep freez for 3 hours. Stuck it in the box,
booted it up and windows could see the drive. It said it was not
allocated and but "R_STUDIO- NTFS was able to scan it and recover
about 6 gig of the 37 that where there before it shit the bed again.
I'm just getting ready for my 3rd run from the freezer to the office.

who would of thunk it.
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I've never heard of that before, where'd you get that idea from?
 
Well, I heard it about 5 years ago and never gave it any thought
untill one of the guys (ANDY FOSTER) in this thread had a link to the
answer. It was just a picture of a freezer. So I thought why not try
it? By the way I have recovered everything I needed. What a break.
Also "get-data back" was able to recover alot of files. 67,000

Carpenter
 
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