Having trouble with layout master slides

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First off:

1. I am very new to PowerPoint.

2. I checked Microsoft's Knowledge Base and didn't find what I needed, but
that could be because I don't know the exact terminology to use to find it?

That said, I am working on a PowerPoint template and have set up some layout
master slides. For purposes of illustration I will focus on just one of them
- "Staffing/Personnel". It has a title at the top ("Staffing/Personnel"), and
two columns of copy that are made up of an indented heirarchy of bulleted
text - First 24 point (no indent), then a line of 20 point (tabbed once), and
then multiple lines of 14 point (tabbed again).

When I add a new slide in normal view and specify the "Staffing/Personnel"
layout, it gives me the correct title but only gives me the first line of
text at 24 point.

Is there a way to ensure that I can have it display both whole, formatted
columns of copy when a new page is created? I would like end users to be able
to just replace copy and not worry about tabbing or formatting. We're
figuring that this will help us keep the end users from screwing up the
layout too much.

I hope that makes sense and thank you for any information you can give.
 
2007. Sorry for forgetting to specify that.

Echo S said:
Which version of PowerPoint are you using?

--
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What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



shs said:
First off:

1. I am very new to PowerPoint.

2. I checked Microsoft's Knowledge Base and didn't find what I needed, but
that could be because I don't know the exact terminology to use to find
it?

That said, I am working on a PowerPoint template and have set up some
layout
master slides. For purposes of illustration I will focus on just one of
them
- "Staffing/Personnel". It has a title at the top ("Staffing/Personnel"),
and
two columns of copy that are made up of an indented heirarchy of bulleted
text - First 24 point (no indent), then a line of 20 point (tabbed once),
and
then multiple lines of 14 point (tabbed again).

When I add a new slide in normal view and specify the "Staffing/Personnel"
layout, it gives me the correct title but only gives me the first line of
text at 24 point.

Is there a way to ensure that I can have it display both whole, formatted
columns of copy when a new page is created? I would like end users to be
able
to just replace copy and not worry about tabbing or formatting. We're
figuring that this will help us keep the end users from screwing up the
layout too much.

I hope that makes sense and thank you for any information you can give.
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Great, thanks.

I asked because PPT 2007 has custom prompt text, but 2003 doesn't. I wanted
to make sure you were at least seeing that much. Although in retrospect, it
probably doesn't matter too much because the custom prompt text is only one
bullet-worth. I would often like multi-level prompt text to show up when I
insert a new slide, but I can also see why it doesn’t work that way. For
example, if I as a user had to delete 2nd and 3rd level text each time I
inserted a slide (because I often only have first-level bulleted text), it
would make me nuts!

What I do is create a couple of sample slides in the template and put
instruction text in them. So the sample slides are based on the appropriate
layout, the user can see what a completed slide would look like, and the
text itself is the instructions -- basically what you put on the slide
layout, just repeated on an actual slide.

Most users (not all, sure, but most) know how to hit Tab to create a second
level of text. I haven't found this to be a huge issue (unless the first
level doesn't have a bullet point, then it becomes a bit more problematic).

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



shs said:
2007. Sorry for forgetting to specify that.

Echo S said:
Which version of PowerPoint are you using?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



shs said:
First off:

1. I am very new to PowerPoint.

2. I checked Microsoft's Knowledge Base and didn't find what I needed,
but
that could be because I don't know the exact terminology to use to find
it?

That said, I am working on a PowerPoint template and have set up some
layout
master slides. For purposes of illustration I will focus on just one of
them
- "Staffing/Personnel". It has a title at the top
("Staffing/Personnel"),
and
two columns of copy that are made up of an indented heirarchy of
bulleted
text - First 24 point (no indent), then a line of 20 point (tabbed
once),
and
then multiple lines of 14 point (tabbed again).

When I add a new slide in normal view and specify the
"Staffing/Personnel"
layout, it gives me the correct title but only gives me the first line
of
text at 24 point.

Is there a way to ensure that I can have it display both whole,
formatted
columns of copy when a new page is created? I would like end users to
be
able
to just replace copy and not worry about tabbing or formatting. We're
figuring that this will help us keep the end users from screwing up the
layout too much.

I hope that makes sense and thank you for any information you can give.
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Thanks for your reply. I do understand why multi-level prompt text isn't a
good idea in new slides. I was just trying to figure out the best way to
ensure that non PowerPoint users don't mess everything up for us. I don't
really know what is and isn't possible with PowerPoint yet, so though I can
intuit a lot of it, I'm still in the dark on most of it. It's very helpful to
have the opinions/advice of expert users. Again, thank you!

Echo S said:
Great, thanks.

I asked because PPT 2007 has custom prompt text, but 2003 doesn't. I wanted
to make sure you were at least seeing that much. Although in retrospect, it
probably doesn't matter too much because the custom prompt text is only one
bullet-worth. I would often like multi-level prompt text to show up when I
insert a new slide, but I can also see why it doesn’t work that way. For
example, if I as a user had to delete 2nd and 3rd level text each time I
inserted a slide (because I often only have first-level bulleted text), it
would make me nuts!

What I do is create a couple of sample slides in the template and put
instruction text in them. So the sample slides are based on the appropriate
layout, the user can see what a completed slide would look like, and the
text itself is the instructions -- basically what you put on the slide
layout, just repeated on an actual slide.

Most users (not all, sure, but most) know how to hit Tab to create a second
level of text. I haven't found this to be a huge issue (unless the first
level doesn't have a bullet point, then it becomes a bit more problematic).

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



shs said:
2007. Sorry for forgetting to specify that.

Echo S said:
Which version of PowerPoint are you using?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



First off:

1. I am very new to PowerPoint.

2. I checked Microsoft's Knowledge Base and didn't find what I needed,
but
that could be because I don't know the exact terminology to use to find
it?

That said, I am working on a PowerPoint template and have set up some
layout
master slides. For purposes of illustration I will focus on just one of
them
- "Staffing/Personnel". It has a title at the top
("Staffing/Personnel"),
and
two columns of copy that are made up of an indented heirarchy of
bulleted
text - First 24 point (no indent), then a line of 20 point (tabbed
once),
and
then multiple lines of 14 point (tabbed again).

When I add a new slide in normal view and specify the
"Staffing/Personnel"
layout, it gives me the correct title but only gives me the first line
of
text at 24 point.

Is there a way to ensure that I can have it display both whole,
formatted
columns of copy when a new page is created? I would like end users to
be
able
to just replace copy and not worry about tabbing or formatting. We're
figuring that this will help us keep the end users from screwing up the
layout too much.

I hope that makes sense and thank you for any information you can give.
Click to expand...
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Oh, I totally understand, believe me! It's really easy for users to go down
a path that's not easy for them, nor easy to get out of.

I think the bulleted text isn't so bad, though. Maybe just make the prompt
text say something like, "Type your text here. Press Enter, then Tab to
create a secondary bullet." And then create a sample slide with that as the
first line of text.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



shs said:
Thanks for your reply. I do understand why multi-level prompt text isn't a
good idea in new slides. I was just trying to figure out the best way to
ensure that non PowerPoint users don't mess everything up for us. I don't
really know what is and isn't possible with PowerPoint yet, so though I
can
intuit a lot of it, I'm still in the dark on most of it. It's very helpful
to
have the opinions/advice of expert users. Again, thank you!

Echo S said:
Great, thanks.

I asked because PPT 2007 has custom prompt text, but 2003 doesn't. I
wanted
to make sure you were at least seeing that much. Although in retrospect,
it
probably doesn't matter too much because the custom prompt text is only
one
bullet-worth. I would often like multi-level prompt text to show up when
I
insert a new slide, but I can also see why it doesn’t work that way. For
example, if I as a user had to delete 2nd and 3rd level text each time I
inserted a slide (because I often only have first-level bulleted text),
it
would make me nuts!

What I do is create a couple of sample slides in the template and put
instruction text in them. So the sample slides are based on the
appropriate
layout, the user can see what a completed slide would look like, and the
text itself is the instructions -- basically what you put on the slide
layout, just repeated on an actual slide.

Most users (not all, sure, but most) know how to hit Tab to create a
second
level of text. I haven't found this to be a huge issue (unless the first
level doesn't have a bullet point, then it becomes a bit more
problematic).

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



shs said:
2007. Sorry for forgetting to specify that.

:

Which version of PowerPoint are you using?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



First off:

1. I am very new to PowerPoint.

2. I checked Microsoft's Knowledge Base and didn't find what I
needed,
but
that could be because I don't know the exact terminology to use to
find
it?

That said, I am working on a PowerPoint template and have set up
some
layout
master slides. For purposes of illustration I will focus on just one
of
them
- "Staffing/Personnel". It has a title at the top
("Staffing/Personnel"),
and
two columns of copy that are made up of an indented heirarchy of
bulleted
text - First 24 point (no indent), then a line of 20 point (tabbed
once),
and
then multiple lines of 14 point (tabbed again).

When I add a new slide in normal view and specify the
"Staffing/Personnel"
layout, it gives me the correct title but only gives me the first
line
of
text at 24 point.

Is there a way to ensure that I can have it display both whole,
formatted
columns of copy when a new page is created? I would like end users
to
be
able
to just replace copy and not worry about tabbing or formatting.
We're
figuring that this will help us keep the end users from screwing up
the
layout too much.

I hope that makes sense and thank you for any information you can
give.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
That's a great idea! Thank you for helping me with this.



Echo S said:
Oh, I totally understand, believe me! It's really easy for users to go down
a path that's not easy for them, nor easy to get out of.

I think the bulleted text isn't so bad, though. Maybe just make the prompt
text say something like, "Type your text here. Press Enter, then Tab to
create a secondary bullet." And then create a sample slide with that as the
first line of text.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



shs said:
Thanks for your reply. I do understand why multi-level prompt text isn't a
good idea in new slides. I was just trying to figure out the best way to
ensure that non PowerPoint users don't mess everything up for us. I don't
really know what is and isn't possible with PowerPoint yet, so though I
can
intuit a lot of it, I'm still in the dark on most of it. It's very helpful
to
have the opinions/advice of expert users. Again, thank you!

Echo S said:
Great, thanks.

I asked because PPT 2007 has custom prompt text, but 2003 doesn't. I
wanted
to make sure you were at least seeing that much. Although in retrospect,
it
probably doesn't matter too much because the custom prompt text is only
one
bullet-worth. I would often like multi-level prompt text to show up when
I
insert a new slide, but I can also see why it doesn’t work that way. For
example, if I as a user had to delete 2nd and 3rd level text each time I
inserted a slide (because I often only have first-level bulleted text),
it
would make me nuts!

What I do is create a couple of sample slides in the template and put
instruction text in them. So the sample slides are based on the
appropriate
layout, the user can see what a completed slide would look like, and the
text itself is the instructions -- basically what you put on the slide
layout, just repeated on an actual slide.

Most users (not all, sure, but most) know how to hit Tab to create a
second
level of text. I haven't found this to be a huge issue (unless the first
level doesn't have a bullet point, then it becomes a bit more
problematic).

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



2007. Sorry for forgetting to specify that.

:

Which version of PowerPoint are you using?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



First off:

1. I am very new to PowerPoint.

2. I checked Microsoft's Knowledge Base and didn't find what I
needed,
but
that could be because I don't know the exact terminology to use to
find
it?

That said, I am working on a PowerPoint template and have set up
some
layout
master slides. For purposes of illustration I will focus on just one
of
them
- "Staffing/Personnel". It has a title at the top
("Staffing/Personnel"),
and
two columns of copy that are made up of an indented heirarchy of
bulleted
text - First 24 point (no indent), then a line of 20 point (tabbed
once),
and
then multiple lines of 14 point (tabbed again).

When I add a new slide in normal view and specify the
"Staffing/Personnel"
layout, it gives me the correct title but only gives me the first
line
of
text at 24 point.

Is there a way to ensure that I can have it display both whole,
formatted
columns of copy when a new page is created? I would like end users
to
be
able
to just replace copy and not worry about tabbing or formatting.
We're
figuring that this will help us keep the end users from screwing up
the
layout too much.

I hope that makes sense and thank you for any information you can
give.
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You're very welcome.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



shs said:
That's a great idea! Thank you for helping me with this.



Echo S said:
Oh, I totally understand, believe me! It's really easy for users to go
down
a path that's not easy for them, nor easy to get out of.

I think the bulleted text isn't so bad, though. Maybe just make the
prompt
text say something like, "Type your text here. Press Enter, then Tab to
create a secondary bullet." And then create a sample slide with that as
the
first line of text.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



shs said:
Thanks for your reply. I do understand why multi-level prompt text
isn't a
good idea in new slides. I was just trying to figure out the best way
to
ensure that non PowerPoint users don't mess everything up for us. I
don't
really know what is and isn't possible with PowerPoint yet, so though I
can
intuit a lot of it, I'm still in the dark on most of it. It's very
helpful
to
have the opinions/advice of expert users. Again, thank you!

:

Great, thanks.

I asked because PPT 2007 has custom prompt text, but 2003 doesn't. I
wanted
to make sure you were at least seeing that much. Although in
retrospect,
it
probably doesn't matter too much because the custom prompt text is
only
one
bullet-worth. I would often like multi-level prompt text to show up
when
I
insert a new slide, but I can also see why it doesn’t work that way.
For
example, if I as a user had to delete 2nd and 3rd level text each time
I
inserted a slide (because I often only have first-level bulleted
text),
it
would make me nuts!

What I do is create a couple of sample slides in the template and put
instruction text in them. So the sample slides are based on the
appropriate
layout, the user can see what a completed slide would look like, and
the
text itself is the instructions -- basically what you put on the slide
layout, just repeated on an actual slide.

Most users (not all, sure, but most) know how to hit Tab to create a
second
level of text. I haven't found this to be a huge issue (unless the
first
level doesn't have a bullet point, then it becomes a bit more
problematic).

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



2007. Sorry for forgetting to specify that.

:

Which version of PowerPoint are you using?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



First off:

1. I am very new to PowerPoint.

2. I checked Microsoft's Knowledge Base and didn't find what I
needed,
but
that could be because I don't know the exact terminology to use
to
find
it?

That said, I am working on a PowerPoint template and have set up
some
layout
master slides. For purposes of illustration I will focus on just
one
of
them
- "Staffing/Personnel". It has a title at the top
("Staffing/Personnel"),
and
two columns of copy that are made up of an indented heirarchy of
bulleted
text - First 24 point (no indent), then a line of 20 point
(tabbed
once),
and
then multiple lines of 14 point (tabbed again).

When I add a new slide in normal view and specify the
"Staffing/Personnel"
layout, it gives me the correct title but only gives me the first
line
of
text at 24 point.

Is there a way to ensure that I can have it display both whole,
formatted
columns of copy when a new page is created? I would like end
users
to
be
able
to just replace copy and not worry about tabbing or formatting.
We're
figuring that this will help us keep the end users from screwing
up
the
layout too much.

I hope that makes sense and thank you for any information you can
give.
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