Having network problems.

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I am having trouble with other people seeing my computer or connecting to me.
All firewalls are disabled. The IP I see in games I create or in the
network adapter properties (the adapter with the internet connection) is not
my acual IP address. The address I'm getting (192.168.2.10) looks like a
router assigned the IP except I'm not using a router. I believe when I ran
the setup program for Bell's Sympatico HighSpeed internet, it installed a
gateway using DHCP through the modem ... the gateway IP and DHCP server IP
are the same as the modems IP. I contacted Sympatico and they told me the
the modem does assign an IP but it is supposed to be the Dynamic IP they
assign from their servers, not the Static one I'm getting. The tech I spoke
to said he couldn't really help me but I probed furture and he said that the
modem has a feature (can't remember the exact words) that assigns the virtual
IP or something (kinda lost me there) and that it could be diabled. I tried
this but everytime I tried to save or re-access the modem it had re-enabled
it (GRRR). Both my net controlers are onboard and I do have a network but
not one that accesses the internet. Only my computer is used for that but I
do have another computer connected (and was when I ran Bell's setup prog I
think). Anyone want to help me solve this problem? ... does windows SP2
interfier with this or anything? I can provide any other info that might be
pertinent that I overlooked. Thx.
 
Chrejo said:
I am having trouble with other people seeing my computer or connecting to
me.
All firewalls are disabled. The IP I see in games I create or in the
network adapter properties (the adapter with the internet connection) is
not
my acual IP address. The address I'm getting (192.168.2.10) looks like a
router assigned the IP except I'm not using a router.
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In a command prompt, type

ipconfig /all

and see whether this is a DHCP-assigned address. It should tell you what the
IP address of the DHCP server is/was, if so.
I believe when I ran
the setup program for Bell's Sympatico HighSpeed internet, it installed a
gateway using DHCP through the modem ... the gateway IP and DHCP server IP
are the same as the modems IP. I contacted Sympatico and they told me the
the modem does assign an IP but it is supposed to be the Dynamic IP they
assign from their servers, not the Static one I'm getting.
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You don't have a static - you have a private IP. Something is doing NAT.
The tech I spoke
to said he couldn't really help me but I probed furture and he said that
the
modem has a feature (can't remember the exact words) that assigns the
virtual
IP or something (kinda lost me there) and that it could be diabled. I
tried
this but everytime I tried to save or re-access the modem it had
re-enabled
it (GRRR). Both my net controlers are onboard
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Ah. Why do you have two NICs? Disable one. Are you using ICS? Don't.

I suggest you get yourself a decent, inexpensive broadband router firewall
appliance (Netgear, Linksys, Dlink, etc) and stick it betwen your DSL modem
& network/computers. Let it do DHCP and NAT. You don't need to install any
klugy ISP-provided software on your computers that way. I never do...

That said - there are two issues here, it seems. You stated that you were
having problems with others connecting *to* you. What do they need to
connect to, and how, and for what purpose?

Get your internal network fixed, your internet connectivity cleaned up &
working, and *then* deal with inbound access to your network from the
Internet.

and I do have a network but
not one that accesses the internet. Only my computer is used for that but
I
do have another computer connected (and was when I ran Bell's setup prog I
think). Anyone want to help me solve this problem? ... does windows SP2
interfier with this or anything? I can provide any other info that might
be
pertinent that I overlooked. Thx.
Click to expand...

Well, perhaps, but I don't know which particular deity is responsible for
troubleshooting TCP/IP connectivity issues, so it's probably not relevant
here.
 
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God is good!


Lanwench said:
In a command prompt, type

ipconfig /all

and see whether this is a DHCP-assigned address. It should tell you what the
IP address of the DHCP server is/was, if so.


You don't have a static - you have a private IP. Something is doing NAT.


Ah. Why do you have two NICs? Disable one. Are you using ICS? Don't.

I suggest you get yourself a decent, inexpensive broadband router firewall
appliance (Netgear, Linksys, Dlink, etc) and stick it betwen your DSL modem
& network/computers. Let it do DHCP and NAT. You don't need to install any
klugy ISP-provided software on your computers that way. I never do...

That said - there are two issues here, it seems. You stated that you were
having problems with others connecting *to* you. What do they need to
connect to, and how, and for what purpose?

Get your internal network fixed, your internet connectivity cleaned up &
working, and *then* deal with inbound access to your network from the
Internet.



Well, perhaps, but I don't know which particular deity is responsible for
troubleshooting TCP/IP connectivity issues, so it's probably not relevant
here.
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Thanks a ton for your reply, it helps me alot and I'll get back to the
forums I'm sure when I have more questions. I just hope this solves the
problem of people bieng able to connect to me. I have been wanting a good
router anyways but didn't realize it was that much better. You know I'm
kinda stupid when it comes to netoworking so maybe you can explain why it's
better to me (lol). As for the software I'll definately use the windows
setup wizzard instead of Bell's :-p, thx for the advise. what's a good easy
sourse to find out all about networking, or where would I find out? I'm very
curious and would love to be more adept in the area as I love everything
about computers. The issue with the modem, a router will solve that problem
then?
 
--
God is good!


Chrejo said:
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God is good!




Thanks a ton for your reply, it helps me alot and I'll get back to the
forums I'm sure when I have more questions. I just hope this solves the
problem of people bieng able to connect to me. I have been wanting a good
router anyways but didn't realize it was that much better. You know I'm
kinda stupid when it comes to netoworking so maybe you can explain why it's
better to me (lol). As for the software, I'll definately use the windows
setup wizzard instead of Bell's :-p, thx for the advise. What's a good easy
source to find out all about networking, or where would I find out? I'm very
curious and would love to be more adept in the area as I love everything
about computers. The issue with the modem, a router will solve that problem
then?
Click to expand...

I just did the the command ipconfig /all in the command prompt and it said
that the ip is a DHCP assigned address so is it doing this because I have 2
ethernet controlers? Is there a way around not using ICS (the other
controller is used for LAN only not internet)? No I'm not using ICS to my
knowledge and I really don't wan't to if I don't have to. Please explain
things a little better, I sort-of understand what's going on but not fully
(what's NAT :-p). But I did catch what you were saying about cleaning up the
network first, this will make everything easier to troubleshoot and more
efficient I'm assuming and thank you for that. Hopefully I can come to a
greater understanding of all this :-).

P.S. Don't mind my signature :-).
 
Chrejo said:
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Thanks a ton for your reply, it helps me alot and I'll get back to the
forums I'm sure when I have more questions. I just hope this solves the
problem of people bieng able to connect to me.
Click to expand...

That's going to be another story entirely - please provide info on what they
are going to be connecting to, and for what purpose.
I have been wanting a good
router anyways but didn't realize it was that much better.
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I think it makes life a lot easier, and adds a layer of security.
You know I'm
kinda stupid when it comes to netoworking
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I know nothing of the kind. :)
so maybe you can explain why it's
better to me (lol). As for the software I'll definately use the windows
setup wizzard instead of Bell's :-p,
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Actually, you don't even need a wizard.
thx for the advise. what's a good easy
sourse to find out all about networking, or where would I find out?
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Lurk in microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web, and see www.wown.com and
www.practicallynetworked.com, and perhaps pick up a couple of tech books on
the topic - there should be a wealth of them at your nearest chain-behemoth
book-and-cappuccino store.
I'm very
curious and would love to be more adept in the area as I love everything
about computers.
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Surely not *everything*!
The issue with the modem, a router will solve that problem
then?
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Not sure...but I'd think it would make things work better and easier to
troubleshoot.

Good luck.
 
Chrejo said:
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I just did the the command ipconfig /all in the command prompt and it said
that the ip is a DHCP assigned address so is it doing this because I have
2
ethernet controlers?
Possibly.

Is there a way around not using ICS (the other
controller is used for LAN only not internet)?
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Yes; if you have a router, you do not need ICS, and you don't need two NICs.
You can just disable the one you aren't using.
No I'm not using ICS to my
knowledge and I really don't wan't to if I don't have to.
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You will likely want a router - but then, you also haven't mentioned whether
you have more than one PC in the first place.
Please explain
things a little better, I sort-of understand what's going on but not fully
(what's NAT :-p).
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Google :)
But I did catch what you were saying about cleaning up the
network first, this will make everything easier to troubleshoot and more
efficient I'm assuming and thank you for that. Hopefully I can come to a
greater understanding of all this :-).

P.S. Don't mind my signature :-).
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I don't mind much, actually. :)
 
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