have maxtor 80 gb 133 mhz hdd but bios only shows ultra dma 2 !! whats wrong?

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knowing that ultra dma 2 = 33 mhz the full potential of this fast hdd
is not utilized.

how to turn on 133 mhz mode on a7v8x mambo.

thanks
 
run sandra file sys benchmark and got only 22000 kB/s. which is about
equal to ata 100 mhz drive speed.
ridiculous
 
run sandra file sys benchmark and got only 22000 kB/s. which is about
equal to ata 100 mhz drive speed.
ridiculous


First of all, forget Sandra. If all this is based on Sandra, find
other benchmarks. Try Atto Bench32...
http://www.attotech.com/software/app1.html , the "Windows SCSI
Utilities" download. Just install and run "bench32.exe" with default
settings and report average score.

I have a Maxtor 80GB, Plus 9 Drive, model (err, I forget the model
number), on a motherboard running it at either ATA100 or ATA133. The
specifics escape me at the moment but I'll test it later and report
scores on Atto Bench32 when I get a chance.

If yours is a different Model/family Maxtor drive, you migh mention
what it is since I have several and might have a similar drive if it
isn't a Plus 9.


Dave
 
Greetings...

knowing that ultra dma 2 = 33 mhz the full potential of this fast hdd
is not utilized.

how to turn on 133 mhz mode on a7v8x mambo.

thanks

Lack of info:

Standard checks....

Make sure you have any needed motherboard drivers installed. I don't know what a a7v8x
is but if it needs drivers to enable features...

Make sure DMA is on in BIOS. Some Bios' have a turn it off and on feature. Make sure
it's on...

If you have it connected to a controller card, have you loaded it's drivers?


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You figure it out...
 
will install and tell the score but it doesn't say which mode it uses
(only points to likely hood of a mode usage inferred from speed). How
do you choose which mode you'r running (ata100/133)?

My matrox is the plus 9 - 80 gb 7200 rpm 2mb cache
 
will install and tell the score but it doesn't say which mode it uses
(only points to likely hood of a mode usage inferred from speed). How
do you choose which mode you'r running (ata100/133)?

My matrox is the plus 9 - 80 gb 7200 rpm 2mb cache

The drive I mentioned above, the Maxtor 80GB Plus 9, 7K2 RPM, has 8MB
cache. Currently it's attached to a system with Via 8233 Southbridge
(IDE controller supporting up to ATA100), is a FAT32, formatted empty
drive. The accoustic management mode was not changed, left at factory
default which (IIRC) is set to AM-On, Fast, which is a median setting,
faster seeks than AM Slow but slower than AM-Off. It's interesting to
note that this Maxtor drive "appears" to be nearly the opposite of a
Western Digital 8MB cache drive, with the WD having much better write
scores but lower read scores in same system... unfortunately I don't
have a spare WD at the moment so benchmarks in same environment can't
be included below. I presume it's due to WD having a better caching
algorithm, as it's writes are significantly faster than the reads, at
least in a few, < ~8MB at a time.

The test system wasn't tweaked in any way, just happened to have a
Win98 installation on a difference, Maxtor Plus 8 HDD and threw it
into a case that already had the board/CPU/etc in it, then chipset
driver & Via Latency Patch PFD v1.05 installed.

ATTO peak write was 65MB/s, peak read 55 MB/s (average of 5 longest
transfers) on a board running it in ATA100 mode.

Sandra 2002 File System Benchmark for that drive was 38204 KB/s, avg.
of 3 runs which varied only 0.2% . At this point I'll mention that
the ~ 22MB/s range you reported previously from the Sandra Benchmark
isn't THAT far off from what this version of Sandra shows as a
baseline score for an ATA100 7K2 80GB NTFS drive, 29200 KB/s.

HDTach read testing showed burst rate off the scale (> 80 MB/s) and
read Max: 63042, Avg: 47890. HDTach suggests some sort of problem
because CPU utilization was at 55% (Athlon XP2000) for both the Plus 8
and Plus 9 drives... this is not typical of the chipset, the OS or
chipset driver may be misconfigured, it's usually closer to 5%. I
then uninstalled the Via Latency Patch (PFD 1.05) and reinstalled the
Via 4in1 v4.35 chipset driver.

With the Latench Patch removed, HDTach CPU Utilization dropped back to
reasonable levels, 4.5%. Max and Avg read speed in HDTach stayed same
as with Latency Patch installed. Sandra scores "might" have dropped a
few small amount after removing the Latency Patch, but I don't have
time at the moment to do enough runs with & without the patch to do a
meaningful enough comparision as the difference is small.

Another Maxtor (Plus 8) ATA133 drive (2MB cache, 7K2 RPM) is attached
to same system, FAT32, relatively highly fragmented (testbed system
with a LOT of reconfigurations) and scores a little lower, around
46MB/s read & write on ATTO and 36329 KB/s on Sandra File System
Benchmark. HDTach scores for it were Max: 62828 KB/s, Avg: 51287
KB/s.

At this point in the testing I disabled DMA for the drive in Windows,
and/or replaced the ATA133 cable with an ATA33 cable. All following
scores were with one or both of those misconfigurations present:


DMA OFF, ATA133 Cable
ATTO - Write 7 MB/s, Read 6 MB/s
HDTach - Burst 6 MB/s, Max 6 MB/s , Avg 6 MB/s
Sandra - (took so long I went and had a snack) 5299 KB/s

DMA OFF, ATA33 Cable
ATTO - Write 7MB/s, Read 6 MB/s
HDTach - Burst 6MB/s, Max 6MB/s, Avg 6 MB/s
Sandra - I don't need another snack, sorry.

DMA ON, ATA33 Cable
ATTO - Write 31 MB/s, Read 29 MB/s
HDTach - Burst 31 MB/s, Max 31 MB/s, Avg 30 MB/s
Sandra - 21603 KB/s


Based on your previous question about ATA33 cables, and that last
"21603 KB/s" score I posted, it makes sense you'd be getting 22000
MB/s with that drive if using the wrong cable, so it's running in
ATA33 mode.


Dave
 
am also guessing that after tweaking manually dma to mode 6 in bios
its increased scores of 27000 in sandra which = 66 mhz mode.

Thanks for the in depth testing. I will now go and buy one of those
fancy round 133 mhz cables.

To change the subject i've tried to do a cd rom benchmark from sandra
and was told to put a cd with large file. did so by putting a divx
movie 700mb. Even though sandra persisted in asking the same question
without recognizing the cd rom with data. i was able to access this
data through win explorer and watch the movie.

how to check the dma mode of cd rom & which mode it supports?
 
am also guessing that after tweaking manually dma to mode 6 in bios
its increased scores of 27000 in sandra which = 66 mhz mode.

I doubt it, ATA66 mode should give you over 85% of the available
performance. You can't run ATA66 mode with a 40-conductor ATA33 cable
anyway, regardless of the bios setting. I don't know why it's
affecting Sandra but Sandra has never been very good for benchmarks,
it's just quick and easy. The BIOS should ALWAYS be left to auto on a
semi-modern system. If the bios isn't working properly you should
check for a BIOS update, as a problem that significant should be fixed
with the first bios revision or two.
Thanks for the in depth testing. I will now go and buy one of those
fancy round 133 mhz cables.

I guess you bought an OEM drive? The retail drives come with an
ATA66-133 cable. 'Round here they're cheaper too, I think I picked up
this 80Gb 8MB cache Plus 9 for somewhere between $30-45.
To change the subject i've tried to do a cd rom benchmark from sandra
and was told to put a cd with large file. did so by putting a divx
movie 700mb. Even though sandra persisted in asking the same question
without recognizing the cd rom with data. i was able to access this
data through win explorer and watch the movie.

how to check the dma mode of cd rom & which mode it supports?

There is little point in checking these things until after you're set
them all up properly, including BIOS set to auto and DMA enabled in
Device manager (if running windows). "Almost" all CDRW drives are
ATA33, though a few now are ATA66 but generally not. More important
is to test the drive througput, like with Nero's CDSpeed (also
available seperately as (freeware?) though a Google search.

CDSpeed is a much better test than Sandra. Most of Sandra's tests are
near worthless. http://www.cdspeed2000.com/go.php3?link=download.html



Dave
 
am also guessing that after tweaking manually dma to mode 6 in bios
its increased scores of 27000 in sandra which = 66 mhz mode.

Thanks for the in depth testing. I will now go and buy one of those
fancy round 133 mhz cables.

To change the subject i've tried to do a cd rom benchmark from sandra
and was told to put a cd with large file. did so by putting a divx
movie 700mb. Even though sandra persisted in asking the same question
without recognizing the cd rom with data. i was able to access this
data through win explorer and watch the movie.

how to check the dma mode of cd rom & which mode it supports?

Nero Info tool,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/diag.html
Is the drive correctly seen in the BIOS?





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