Has the 64bit Version of Vista Home Premium been Discontinued?

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I have the 32 bit version of home premium running, and I ordered the dvd for
the 64bit version, and paid shippiong charges, about a month ago. Today I
received a letter in the mail telling me that the 64bit version of windows
vista home premium has been discontinued. Is this true?
 
No. Who sent you the letter and what exactly did the letter say?

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I have the 32 bit version of home premium running, and I ordered the dvd for
the 64bit version, and paid shippiong charges, about a month ago. Today I
received a letter in the mail telling me that the 64bit version of windows
vista home premium has been discontinued. Is this true?
 
JustWondering said:
I have the 32 bit version of home premium running, and I ordered the dvd
for
the 64bit version, and paid shippiong charges, about a month ago. Today I
received a letter in the mail telling me that the 64bit version of windows
vista home premium has been discontinued. Is this true?
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What is the name of the company you placed your order with?

C.B.
 
I placed the order with microsoft corporation, and the letter is from
microsoft. The return address ont eh envelope is Microsoft Corporation, PO
box 1096, Buffalo, NY 14240
 
I says thanks for my interest in the product, but the product I have ordered,
660-00565 windows vista home premium 64bit en have been discontinued. Then it
gives me a phone number, 1-800-834-6037 to call monday-friday for customer
service.
 
I have the 32 bit version of home premium running, and I ordered the
dvd for
I says thanks for my interest in the product, but the product I have
ordered, 660-00565 windows vista home premium 64bit en have been
discontinued. Then it gives me a phone number, 1-800-834-6037 to call
monday-friday for customer service.
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That's the non-SP1 version, which may very well have been discontinued, since
the current Vista Home Premium 64-Bit available on the website comes with
SP1?

If I had to guess.
 
AH-HA! I wonder if that means I can't get the 64 bit version that they said I
could get with my 32 bit purchase? And, they have kept, to date, my shipping
charges.
 
I have the 32 bit version of home premium running, and I ordered
AH-HA! I wonder if that means I can't get the 64 bit version that they
said I could get with my 32 bit purchase? And, they have kept, to
date, my shipping charges.
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Beats me. Call the phone numbe ron Monday and find out?
 
John said:
Beats me. Call the phone numbe ron Monday and find out?
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Hey John. Do you still work for MSFT?

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free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
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DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=435&tag=nl.e101
 
Hey John. Do you still work for MSFT?
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Nope, they decided that the regular internal support channels could support
the newsgroup infrastructure and they didn't need a person whose sole purpose
would be managing these cesspools =) I was gone before these Vista groups
got created (which, frankly, half of them shouldn't have been created... ).

As for any rumours certain trolls might spread saying that their complaints
to upper management were what drove me off, my manager and their manager
never heard anything about these supposed complaints.
 
John said:
Nope, they decided that the regular internal support channels could
support the newsgroup infrastructure and they didn't need a person whose
sole purpose would be managing these cesspools =) I was gone before
these Vista groups got created (which, frankly, half of them shouldn't
have been created... ).
Agreed.


As for any rumours certain trolls might spread saying that their
complaints to upper management were what drove me off, my manager and
their manager never heard anything about these supposed complaints.
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Wow, MSFT is loosing all you guys! Mike left, you are gone, I guess
they still have Doug H.

Well, it's just my opinion, but I would suspect you are better off now
than you were then when you were working for MFST. But I also think
it's a shame that MSFT is investing less in one of their primary free
support avenues.

Anyhow, nice to see you poke your head in the group a bit.

--
"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett

DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=435&tag=nl.e101
 
"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"
Wow, MSFT is loosing all you guys! Mike left, you are gone, I guess they
still have Doug H.

Well, it's just my opinion, but I would suspect you are better off now
than you were then when you were working for MFST. But I also think it's
a shame that MSFT is investing less in one of their primary free support
avenues.

Anyhow, nice to see you poke your head in the group a bit.
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Yes, it is.

I perhaps am reading between the lines but did MSFT shoot the news group
person because they didn't like the posts? Would not surprise me one bit
having seen a similar situation recently. Management propensity to fix
everything but the problem. Never ceases to astound me.

Even if MSFT didn't create these, they would have been created in
alt.microsoft.vista or something.

What is going to be interesting is the long term implications. New Coke
anyone?
 
Hey John.  Do you still work for MSFT?
Yes, it is.

I perhaps am reading between the lines but did MSFT shoot the news group
person because they didn't like the posts?  Would not surprise me one bit
having seen a similar situation recently.  Management propensity to fix
everything but the problem.  Never ceases to astound me.
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a) I wasn't "shot". Plus, I have to ask, didn't like what posts?
b) It wasn't anything to do with my performance. It was to do with
today's SNAFU'd business model where outsourcing/contracting is the
optimal solution to problems. As a stockholder, I don't wholly
disagree with the decision to get rid of my old position. However, as
the person who did the job and saw what happened to the duties the job
performed, I know it was the wrong decision. Good financial decisions
are not always the same as wise decisions.
Even if MSFT didn't create these, they would have been created in
alt.microsoft.vista or something.
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? Odds are, no, they wouldn't. Many of the vista newsgroups would
have been created. However, there would have been discussions as to
which groups were necessary and which weren't, rather than a wholesale
copy of the beta newsgroup hierarchy into the public space. Plus
(speaking as the microsoft.* admin that I'm not), the alt.* hierarchy
does not concern me. *My* hierarchy is what concerns me.
What is going to be interesting is the long term implications.  New Coke
anyone?
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Eh? If you're trying to start some sort of flame-ish discussion about
the viability of Vista as an operating system, as opposed to the
discussion that this particular thread offshoot has gone into, that of
the newsgroup infrastructure itself, you'll find yourself wanting. As
much as I enjoy a good argument, and believe me, I enjoy a good
argument so much that I'll make my oppositions points for them if I
think they're doing it wrong, that isn't what I want to talk about,
and isn't what I've set out to talk about, so, take it elsewhere.

Now, if you are trying to discuss the newsgroup hierarchy, then, I'm
sorry, but you'll have to clarify what you're saying because,
honestly, I haven't a clue what in the blue blazes you may have meant
by the New Coke reference.
 
Agreed.
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I was shocked when I saw the new groups come scrolling across my
screen. The Vista request was just beginning to be floated when I was
'leaving' and when I saw the avalanche I knew that whoever was
approving newsgroup requests at that point was just a rubber stamp
machine. That isn't to say that all the Vista groups were bad
decisions. Just that many of them weren't actually needed. I just
wish the old Netscan project in MSR kept getting funded, I'd love to
see the relative traffic numbers of all the groups. Would be nice to
be proven wrong. There have been other groups since then that have
made me shake my head sadly too. But, y'know, what can you do.
Unfortunately, there isn't much call for a USENET admin anymore, which
means my last few years at MS were kinda wasted in terms of career
growth, because no one can actually see how that relates to current
job market needs, despite the fact that with online communities being
such a big deal all across the board, I'm a perfect fit.
Wow, MSFT is loosing all you guys!  Mike left, you are gone, I guess
they still have Doug H.
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There's quite a few Mikes, so, you'll excuse me if I just smile and
nod. As for Doug, no idea. And, even if I knew, I couldn't really
say what he's working on and where.
Well, it's just my opinion, but I would suspect you are better off now
than you were then when you were working for MFST.  But I also think
it's a shame that MSFT is investing less in one of their primary free
support avenues.
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Actually, no, I'm not. But thanks for thinking positive.
Anyhow, nice to see you poke your head in the group a bit.
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I think my name came up in a different thread, or maybe I was
following someone whose name is, like mine, still in my google
alerts. I saw this thread and thought 'I bet I could answer that
one.' I'm actually still wondering if the OP called in and what he
found out, but I doubt I'll jump in more threads.
 
Jayde said:
I was shocked when I saw the new groups come scrolling across my
screen. The Vista request was just beginning to be floated when I was
'leaving' and when I saw the avalanche I knew that whoever was
approving newsgroup requests at that point was just a rubber stamp
machine. That isn't to say that all the Vista groups were bad
decisions. Just that many of them weren't actually needed. I just
wish the old Netscan project in MSR kept getting funded, I'd love to
see the relative traffic numbers of all the groups. Would be nice to
be proven wrong. There have been other groups since then that have
made me shake my head sadly too. But, y'know, what can you do.
Unfortunately, there isn't much call for a USENET admin anymore, which
means my last few years at MS were kinda wasted in terms of career
growth, because no one can actually see how that relates to current
job market needs, despite the fact that with online communities being
such a big deal all across the board, I'm a perfect fit.
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It's a bit disconcerting that it has been maintained by MSFT employees
who post in here that there was no 'constant presence' of their staff on
their newsgroups. It might not have ever been said outright like that,
but I remember getting that impression in the XP newsgroups a few years
back. Basically the message was 'these newsgroups aren't worth that
much effort or attention from MS.'
There's quite a few Mikes, so, you'll excuse me if I just smile and
nod. As for Doug, no idea. And, even if I knew, I couldn't really
say what he's working on and where.
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I was talking about Mike Brannigan, but he's posted in here since he
moved on from MSFT and has said as much. Smile and nod is fine because
to divulge any info about your ex-coworkers at MSFT on their newsgroups
would be improper methinks. :)
Actually, no, I'm not. But thanks for thinking positive.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
I think my name came up in a different thread, or maybe I was
following someone whose name is, like mine, still in my google
alerts. I saw this thread and thought 'I bet I could answer that
one.' I'm actually still wondering if the OP called in and what he
found out, but I doubt I'll jump in more threads.
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Faire well wherever you faire.

--
"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett
 
It's a bit disconcerting that it has been maintained by MSFT employees
who post in here that there was no 'constant presence' of their staff on
their newsgroups.  It might not have ever been said outright like that,
but I remember getting that impression in the XP newsgroups a few years
back.  Basically the message was 'these newsgroups aren't worth that
much effort or attention from MS.'
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Actually, that was more or less a hope and a design. The hope of the
newsgroups was that the users would assist each other. Some groups
would monitor the groups, but, the number of ones who didn't far
outweighed the ones who did. It wasn't a matter of the groups not
being worth it, in fact, they were worth much more than that. It's
just that it was really supposed to be a community space. Heck, I
might have read groups like xp.general as part of my job, but I wasn't
participating in the group. Heck, I wasn't even looking for recurring
issues. I was doing the news admin side of the job.

So, please, don't take away from it that MS doesn't have a presence in
all of the microsoft.public.* newsgroups because they don't think it's
worth the effort. The groups are what they are. User to User support
vehicles.
 
Jayde said:
Actually, that was more or less a hope and a design. The hope of the
newsgroups was that the users would assist each other. Some groups
would monitor the groups, but, the number of ones who didn't far
outweighed the ones who did. It wasn't a matter of the groups not
being worth it, in fact, they were worth much more than that. It's
just that it was really supposed to be a community space. Heck, I
might have read groups like xp.general as part of my job, but I wasn't
participating in the group. Heck, I wasn't even looking for recurring
issues. I was doing the news admin side of the job.

So, please, don't take away from it that MS doesn't have a presence in
all of the microsoft.public.* newsgroups because they don't think it's
worth the effort. The groups are what they are. User to User support
vehicles.
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Thanks for the explanation.

--
"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett
 
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