Guided help for registry

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I have downloaded a guided help from the KB onto a usb flash drive, for
fixing a corrupt registry on my laptop that is preventing windows from
loading. How do I get the program from the flash drive to start if windows
will not load?
 
Thanks, but I need to run the program on the corrupt computer. What I can't
understand is that Microsoft have produced a guided help program to fix a
registry problem where the OS doesn't load, but how do you run the program!?
Am I being a bit dense?
 
langholme said:
I have downloaded a guided help from the KB onto a usb flash drive,
for fixing a corrupt registry on my laptop that is preventing windows
from loading. How do I get the program from the flash drive to start
if windows will not load?



Have to tried to start Windows in Safe mode and running the program for
there?
 
Perhaps reveal the KB article number, or link

langholme said:
Thanks, but I need to run the program on the corrupt computer. What I can't
understand is that Microsoft have produced a guided help program to fix a
registry problem where the OS doesn't load, but how do you run the program!?
Am I being a bit dense?
 
I have tried every kind of startup available but it is having none of it! The
KB article identified the error (stop c0000218,
.......system32/config/SOFTWARE is corrupt, and the manual fix is very complex
and fraught with danger to a relative novice. But why did they produce a
guided help for this problem when you can't run it?
 
But what is the KB number!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

langholme said:
I have tried every kind of startup available but it is having none of it! The
KB article identified the error (stop c0000218,
......system32/config/SOFTWARE is corrupt, and the manual fix is very complex
and fraught with danger to a relative novice. But why did they produce a
guided help for this problem when you can't run it?
 
Thats the point! kb915092 is very informative but how can you run an
executable program on an operating system that will not load in safe, normal,
command prompt or any other mode?
 
Oh I see now;
You will have to use the section under "Manual steps to recover....."
If you are not able to follow this from a working sys, with your dead sys
next to it, print the page out.
Providing you take it steady and double check what you are doing all should
be OK
 
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 15:14:02 -0700, langholme
Thats the point! kb915092 is very informative but how can you run an
executable program on an operating system that will not load in safe, normal,
command prompt or any other mode?

From the same or compatible operating system that is not booted from
the (damaged, corrupted, infected, etc.) hard drive.

Alas, out of the box this is not possible with XP, unless you make
your own bootable CDR using Bart PE (do a search for "Bart PE"). Even
then, certain tools that assume they are running from the same Windows
installation they are to work on (e.g. if they involve the registry)
won't work as expected, requiring careful assessment on the part of
the user or tech as to whether the Bart plugin RunScanner will help.

OTOH, if you've lost a registry hive, you may be able to replace that
hive via Bart CDR boot or from another XP installation running on
another PC (NB: Never allow an XP hard drive to boot in the wrong PC!)

The generic approach is:
- ensure hardware is OK (RAM, HD)
- rename away the bad hive file
- find other hive files of that name
- copy the latest-dated one to the active location

You rename away the old hive file so that it is not overwritten, so
that if you mess up, you can Undo back to where you started.

You first check hardware (MemTest86, HD Tune) because if the hardware
is bad, anything you try to do could make things worse.

There are two sets of registry hive files in XP:

1) The system-level files

These reside in System32\Config, and have no file name extension. You
won't see them properly, if at all, unless Explorer (or 3rd-party
shell) shows hidden and system files, and shows file name extensions,
else the associated fallback and log files will appear to have the
same name as the "real" hive files - which are...
- SYSTEM
- SAM
- SECURITY
- DEFAULT
- SOFTWARE
....and the associated file types are, AFAIK,...
- *. (no extension) = the "live" hives
- *.sav = original installation-time hives
- *.log = logging file, I presume (too small to be a hive)
- *.evt = no idea, sorry! (too small to be a hive)

2) The user-level files

This is a single NTUSER.DAT file that resides in the user account's
base directory (or for system, in System32\Config\systemprofile).


Notice that unlike Win9x, XP does NOT maintain backups of the registry
hives, to fall back to if something goes wrong. The "last known good"
state is merely a copy of a few keys that is AFAIK physically stored
in the same file as the "live" ones, so that anything that eats the
file will also eat the fallback.

However, if you have System Restore running, then copies of the
registry hives will be kept as part of each restore point. Once you
aren't running the Windows installation, these can be searched for (I
use Agent Ransack running from Bart PE CDR) and copied about,
including over the damaged hive files you want to replace.

You can attempt an "easier" fix by doing a System Restore, which will
cause all monitored files (including all of the registry) to fall back
to the state at the time the restore point was made. However, AFAIK
that can only be done from the stricken installation, so if that
installation cannot boot, you have a problem.

If you do favor the System Restore fallback option, then you could try
this (I've never done this, so use at your own risk...)
- from Bart or other PC's XP, rename away existing active hives
- copy the .SAV equivalents in as active
- if this boots up, do a System Restore rollback from there
"langholme" wrote:

You don't easily do that, because
- of difficulties doing that
- you don't know what the tool will do if run when OS not booted

Bart PE can, if USB is in when Bart boots, but the second factor is
what would make me nervous about trying it.


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