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zach
anyone have any good PC cases?? thanks for the help
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Frank McCoy
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt zach said:
I like the case I have.
Got it for about $70 US down at Computer Renaissance.
What I like most about it is the hole in the side ....
A hole with a duct attached.
The duct fits over the CPU fan and heatsink; thus bringing in cool air
from outside the case instead of the same hot air all the other devices
have to put up with. This lowers the CPU temperature considerably.
Having an *exhaust* fan near the CPU to push out the heated air also
helps.
I also have a very *pretty* acrylic case, and some pretty green lights
to spiff it up with. Haven't gotten around to actually using it yet
though. Looked really nice in the store ....
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John Doe
zach said:
A case with the lower front intake fan blowing air through the hard
drive rack, or similar.
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DevilsPGD
In message <[email protected]> zach
Antec P180, if you're serious about quiet and cool systems rather then
flashy lights and transparent sidewalls.
Antec P180, if you're serious about quiet and cool systems rather then
flashy lights and transparent sidewalls.
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SteveH
DevilsPGD said:
Indeed - got 2 of 'em here.
SteveH
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Phisherman
I like cases that take the larger 120mm fans, have convenient USB
ports in the front, and a simple appearance. Antec makes good
inexpensive cases. I build my own custom wooden base with wheels
which lifts the case slightly off the floor for less dust and easier
cleaning/maintenance.
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32andtwentyseven
Well after reading this thread I starting reading up on the Antec
P180, and read a review for it.
Here is the conclusion page for the review.
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6012&page=7
After reading that through fully, I realised it has some flaws which
might be a pain for someone like me who hasn't been in PC building
very long. It's also a rather large beast.
Phisherman suggested that Antec make good cases, so I started looking
around for some more Antec cases. I came across an "Antec Solo Midi
Tower" http://www.thecoolingshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=2326
I was very impressed. It has space for a larger 120mm fan (just how
Phisherman wanted it
TWO lower intake fans (as John Doe suggested),and it has sound proofing. As well as front mounted ports, and some
rather nice options for mounting your drives.
Here is page 3 of the XSReview, as I feel it gives the best pictures
all on one page.
http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/cases/antec-solo-midi-tower-case/3/
Page 4 also gives you information about the drive mounting options.
Page 5 is a conclusion. And in case you want to start at the
beginning, page 1 + 2 give you some history about Antec and a first
impression of the outside of the case.
http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/cases/antec-solo-midi-tower-case/1/
http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/cases/antec-solo-midi-tower-case/2/
http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/cases/antec-solo-midi-tower-case/3/
http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/cases/antec-solo-midi-tower-case/4/
http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/cases/antec-solo-midi-tower-case/5/
Take your pick!
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geoff
Yes, my old case was an Inwin, beige, I am not really on board with all
black. I looked at cases at a store because I wanted to make sure they were
large enough. I finally got the P180 with silver (dull) like panels
outside.
The large 180 mm fans really cool the MB big time. With the Inwin, the MB
was around 31 or 32c. With the Antec, it stays around 24c.
-g
black. I looked at cases at a store because I wanted to make sure they were
large enough. I finally got the P180 with silver (dull) like panels
outside.
The large 180 mm fans really cool the MB big time. With the Inwin, the MB
was around 31 or 32c. With the Antec, it stays around 24c.
-g
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Ed Medlin
I also like them. I have the Antec P180 modded for liquid cooling bySteveH said:
Swiftech (labeled as Quiet Power) and it is great. It is about as silent as
it gets.
Ed
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Travis McGee
All good cases. I don't build much, but have used Enermax (good), Irwin
(fair), and my current Cooler Master (great).
Roswill silent PSU, big fan with variable speed, very quiet.
(fair), and my current Cooler Master (great).
Roswill silent PSU, big fan with variable speed, very quiet.
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DevilsPGD
In message <_%[email protected]> "Ed Medlin"
With all due respect, why bother with a P180 if you're going to liquid
cool?
It's a fantastic case, specifically built to optimize airflow, I would
think you could do much better, without some of the P180's limits, if
you didn't care about airflow.
With all due respect, why bother with a P180 if you're going to liquid
cool?
It's a fantastic case, specifically built to optimize airflow, I would
think you could do much better, without some of the P180's limits, if
you didn't care about airflow.
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zach
Thanks for all the help every1, This is the case i had in mind, It has
a 120mm in the back and a 120mm fan in the front and side fan... any1
tell me if its any good? http://www.pccasegear.com/prod5282.htm
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DevilsPGD
In message <[email protected]> zach
I can't say I'd go near it myself, the location of the drives and not
nearly enough clearance between the power supply and motherboard.
That being said, if you're building the machine and not tinkering down
the road, it will probably do the trick.
I also would not touch a toolless anything, although perhaps I've had
bad experiences here previously.
I can't say I'd go near it myself, the location of the drives and not
nearly enough clearance between the power supply and motherboard.
That being said, if you're building the machine and not tinkering down
the road, it will probably do the trick.
I also would not touch a toolless anything, although perhaps I've had
bad experiences here previously.
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zach
Not to get off the subject but is Rosewell a good PS??
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DevilsPGD
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Travis McGee
One of the best!
DevilsPGD said:
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zach
Sweet thanks becaues i have a Rosewill Stallion Series RD500-2-DB ATX
V2.2 500W Dual 8cm Ball Bearing Fan Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA,
TUV, FCC - Retail , well i am going to get it, since its a good PS and
i am spending abotu 1200 on my computer all together, ( not including
shipping) for all my items i wan to order, thanks for the help heres
the list of everything im going to use
Motherboard:Fata1ty AN9
Hard Drive: Western Digital 74gb 10,000 RPM Raptor
Video Card:XFX 7950GT 512MB
Proceessor: AMD Athlon 5000+ 2.6ghz
Memory: 4Gb kit Crucial (So i dont waste money on upgrade((mobob
supports 8gb))
Power supply: (up there)
Case: Antec Solo
Well built system??
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Ed Medlin
The P180's size and construction is almost made for a liquid cooling system.DevilsPGD said:
The radiator fits in the rear-top, water pump in the bottom tunnel and tank
just behind the top HDD tray. It still has the large (120mm??) quiet fans
and they work great for cooling the rest of the components. I just liquid
cool the processor right now because everything else is so quiet. Even the
two 8800 GTX cards are extremely quiet.
Ed
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DevilsPGD
In message <[email protected]> zach
I'm not familiar with that motherboard, or XFX cards in general, so I
can't speak to that combination.
Memory wise, what operating system? If you're staying in the 32-bit
world, you'll likely be limited to ~3.2GB-3.5GB (or less, depending on
motherboard architecture) of usable RAM. Not necessarily a problem, but
it's something to research before purchasing 4GB of RAM.
My motherboard needs reserves around 400MB of address space for itself,
so when you add that to the two 512MB video cards I have, I can barely
use over 2.5GB.
Second, I'd stay away from the Raptor series of drives, look at
something like the ST3400620AS instead. This drive will outperform the
Raptors under most real-world circumstances due to the substantially
higher density of the bits (in other words, create a 74GB partition and
you'll find it actually seeks within that 74GB faster then the Raptor),
plus the ST3400620AS actually supports NCQ (which fails to actually work
on the Raptor)
The Raptor drives are good in theory, but in my own experience, modern
7200rpm drives out perform the Raptors at a fraction of the cost, heat,
and noise.
I'm not familiar with that motherboard, or XFX cards in general, so I
can't speak to that combination.
Memory wise, what operating system? If you're staying in the 32-bit
world, you'll likely be limited to ~3.2GB-3.5GB (or less, depending on
motherboard architecture) of usable RAM. Not necessarily a problem, but
it's something to research before purchasing 4GB of RAM.
My motherboard needs reserves around 400MB of address space for itself,
so when you add that to the two 512MB video cards I have, I can barely
use over 2.5GB.
Second, I'd stay away from the Raptor series of drives, look at
something like the ST3400620AS instead. This drive will outperform the
Raptors under most real-world circumstances due to the substantially
higher density of the bits (in other words, create a 74GB partition and
you'll find it actually seeks within that 74GB faster then the Raptor),
plus the ST3400620AS actually supports NCQ (which fails to actually work
on the Raptor)
The Raptor drives are good in theory, but in my own experience, modern
7200rpm drives out perform the Raptors at a fraction of the cost, heat,
and noise.
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DevilsPGD
In message <[email protected]> "Ed
Interesting -- I wouldn't bother with liquid cooling until it could cool
practically everything. Makes sense though, with that approach
Medlin said:
Interesting -- I wouldn't bother with liquid cooling until it could cool
practically everything. Makes sense though, with that approach