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Dowop
I've never tried tis and am wondering if there are any gotcha's.
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TJ
Are you looking to refill yourself, or for carts that have been refilledDowop said:I've never tried tis and am wondering if there are any gotcha's.
by somebody else?
TJ
J
justme
www.bizco.com.au
they have both
they have both
TJ said:Are you looking to refill yourself, or for carts that have been refilled
by somebody else?
TJ
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Dowop
I went to bizco.com.au and could only find bulk for my HP. Perhaps I'm
missing something. My HP57 is 3 inks in one unit. I did not see this
also. I will contact the company and find out.
I did not realize that I could refill myself. How messy would somethig
like this be? I assume that the savings of doing myself is costs musch
less.
I've seen ads where you send in your cartridge, and they'll return
someone else's cartridge that they refilled. I was wondering if
companys use HP ink or other ink to bring down the cost. Has anyone had
any problems using these?
missing something. My HP57 is 3 inks in one unit. I did not see this
also. I will contact the company and find out.
I did not realize that I could refill myself. How messy would somethig
like this be? I assume that the savings of doing myself is costs musch
less.
I've seen ads where you send in your cartridge, and they'll return
someone else's cartridge that they refilled. I was wondering if
companys use HP ink or other ink to bring down the cost. Has anyone had
any problems using these?
T
TJ
Companies that refill cartridges do not use "Official" HP ink, becauseDowop said:I went to bizco.com.au and could only find bulk for my HP. Perhaps I'm
missing something. My HP57 is 3 inks in one unit. I did not see this
also. I will contact the company and find out.
I did not realize that I could refill myself. How messy would somethig
like this be? I assume that the savings of doing myself is costs musch
less.
I've seen ads where you send in your cartridge, and they'll return
someone else's cartridge that they refilled. I was wondering if
companys use HP ink or other ink to bring down the cost. Has anyone had
any problems using these?
HP will not sell it to them. Many refillers use ink that is "universal"
and is supposed to work in any printer, but it's best to avoid them
because there are subtle differences in color across different printer
brands. Other companies use inks that, while not sanctioned by HP, have
been developed especially for your HP printer. In general, those will
work much better than the universal inks.
The same goes for refilling yourself. As for the procedure, try
searching with Google for "HP 56 57 refill instructions" and you should
see some links that will direct you to videos showing the whole thing to
you. It's not difficult, and not messy with just a bit of practice. I
recommend buying a refill "kit" to start with, then bulk ink if you wish
to continue.
One warning: I have had uneven results with buying refilled or
"remanufactured" HP 56 and 57 cartridges, the tricolor cart especially.
While the refillers are supposed to be cleaning and checking the
cartridges before they refill them, some are better at it than others.
The last supplier I tried started off well, but fell off later. Now, I
buy expired genuine HP carts on Ebay. Only one so far, but so far, so good.
TJ
D
Dowop
Thank you! so very much for your fine and experienced information. I'veTJ said:Companies that refill cartridges do not use "Official" HP ink, because
HP will not sell it to them. Many refillers use ink that is "universal"
and is supposed to work in any printer, but it's best to avoid them
because there are subtle differences in color across different printer
brands. Other companies use inks that, while not sanctioned by HP, have
been developed especially for your HP printer. In general, those will
work much better than the universal inks.
The same goes for refilling yourself. As for the procedure, try
searching with Google for "HP 56 57 refill instructions" and you should
see some links that will direct you to videos showing the whole thing to
you. It's not difficult, and not messy with just a bit of practice. I
recommend buying a refill "kit" to start with, then bulk ink if you wish
to continue.
One warning: I have had uneven results with buying refilled or
"remanufactured" HP 56 and 57 cartridges, the tricolor cart especially.
While the refillers are supposed to be cleaning and checking the
cartridges before they refill them, some are better at it than others.
The last supplier I tried started off well, but fell off later. Now, I
buy expired genuine HP carts on Ebay. Only one so far, but so far, so good.
TJ
done the Google search and found 57,900 hits! Are there any places that
you know of that advertise that they have developed equivalent HP ink?
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Dowop
Thank you!WW said:I use MR INK. Buy it in pint size. Buy a starter kit first. That has
instructions and syringes. Be sure to specify HP printer. WW
M
measekite
It is a very messy nuisance and the print quality is less and the risk of
fading is greater.
fading is greater.
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TJ
If you don't print much, a pint is a LOT of ink to use up. Four ouncesDowop said:Thank you!
of each might be better.
When I started refilling my own 56 and 57 carts, I bought Inktec refill
kits. They come with a cart holder, syringes, needles, ink enough to
refill 2-3 times, and printed instructions. The company I originally
bought my kit from has become a victim of the economy, so there's no
point in recommending it. However, I'm sure you can find a refill kit by
using Google.
One of the best things you can do to make refilling a success is to try
to refill BEFORE any of the colors run out. If you continue printing
very long after the ink has run out, you risk damage to the printhead
part of the cartridge.
TJ
D
Dowop
Very important points I did know. Thank you.TJ said:If you don't print much, a pint is a LOT of ink to use up. Four ounces
of each might be better.
When I started refilling my own 56 and 57 carts, I bought Inktec refill
kits. They come with a cart holder, syringes, needles, ink enough to
refill 2-3 times, and printed instructions. The company I originally
bought my kit from has become a victim of the economy, so there's no
point in recommending it. However, I'm sure you can find a refill kit by
using Google.
One of the best things you can do to make refilling a success is to try
to refill BEFORE any of the colors run out. If you continue printing
very long after the ink has run out, you risk damage to the printhead
part of the cartridge.
TJ
D
Dowop
This is what I thought about being messy. Also the print quality.measekite said:It is a very messy nuisance and the print quality is less and the risk of
fading is greater.
thanks for your information.
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TJ
Dowop said:This is what I thought about being messy. Also the print quality.
thanks for your information.
Be aware that Measekite has zero experience with refilling HP
cartridges, and in using aftermarket inks. It is true that some
aftermarket inks have been tested by various agencies against OEM, and
have been found to fade more quickly under adverse conditions. However,
I don't know of any tests that pitted aftermarket ink from
higher-quality sources against OEM. Also, if you keep your photo prints
out of the light or under glass, they will last MUCH longer. Office-type
prints that are stored in filing cabinets should last as long as the
paper does.
As for the "mess," well, a lot depends on how much of a klutz you are.
If you can't put jam on your toast in the morning without dropping it,
refilling is not for you. If you don't dare eat soup without a bib,
refilling is not for you. But for most of us, a bit of care eliminates
any "mess."
TJ
D
Dowop
TJ said:thanks for the info on storing photos. I didn't realize this. I alsoDowop said:Be aware that Measekite has zero experience with refilling HP
cartridges, and in using aftermarket inks. It is true that some
aftermarket inks have been tested by various agencies against OEM, and
have been found to fade more quickly under adverse conditions. However,
I don't know of any tests that pitted aftermarket ink from
higher-quality sources against OEM. Also, if you keep your photo prints
out of the light or under glass, they will last MUCH longer. Office-type
prints that are stored in filing cabinets should last as long as the
paper does.
As for the "mess," well, a lot depends on how much of a klutz you are.
If you can't put jam on your toast in the morning without dropping it,
refilling is not for you. If you don't dare eat soup without a bib,
refilling is not for you. But for most of us, a bit of care eliminates
any "mess."
TJ
had to smile as I was reading your info. Of course, if your're a
klutz, this is not for you.
A
Arthur Entlich
Let me second a caveat regarding the person on this forum who is known
as either Measekite or inkystinky.
His "information" is heavily biased against refilling or any type, in
spite of his never having (admitted to have) used 3rd party or bulk
inks, or to refill cartridges. He uses one or two Canon printers only
with OEM inks, and does not have the experience or knowledge base to be
making his blanket statements.
There are many people who are completely independent of any ink supplier
who have used 3rd party inks for many years, saving hundreds and even
thousands of dollars. They will tell you there are both good and bad
3rd party ink vendors and can probably suggest good sources.
Although bad ink may cause your printer's head to clog temporarily, it
very very rarely causes any permanent damage. The issue really comes
down to if your time and effort is worth the savings, and for each of us
it will be different. If you have a lot of money accessible, and your
time is very valuable, you may not be able to justify refilling. If you
make a great deal of money and profit on your prints, again it may not
be worth your while. Then again, some inks offered by 3rd party
manufacturers or distributors can actually be of better quality than the
printer manufacturer's inks (OEM), and which may be why some people do
not use OEM inks.
What is absolutely true is that the majority of the profit computer
printer manufacturers make is from ink/toner and papers, not the
printers, which are often sold a a minor percentage above cost.
With laser printers (black and even more-so color), almost all now come
with partially filled cartridges, and the cost to replace the cartridges
is more than the cost of the printer with the so-called "starter"
cartridges.
Do some research to determine cost of refills, how involved it is and
how much it will save you and make you own decision if it works for you.
If your HP printer uses "incorporated heads in the cartridge (I believe
the 56 and 57 are these types) the heads will eventually fail. You may
get between 3 and 20 refills, depending upon the head. On average
probably 8-10 refills before the head begins to degrade or fails completely.
Art
If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:
http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/
as either Measekite or inkystinky.
His "information" is heavily biased against refilling or any type, in
spite of his never having (admitted to have) used 3rd party or bulk
inks, or to refill cartridges. He uses one or two Canon printers only
with OEM inks, and does not have the experience or knowledge base to be
making his blanket statements.
There are many people who are completely independent of any ink supplier
who have used 3rd party inks for many years, saving hundreds and even
thousands of dollars. They will tell you there are both good and bad
3rd party ink vendors and can probably suggest good sources.
Although bad ink may cause your printer's head to clog temporarily, it
very very rarely causes any permanent damage. The issue really comes
down to if your time and effort is worth the savings, and for each of us
it will be different. If you have a lot of money accessible, and your
time is very valuable, you may not be able to justify refilling. If you
make a great deal of money and profit on your prints, again it may not
be worth your while. Then again, some inks offered by 3rd party
manufacturers or distributors can actually be of better quality than the
printer manufacturer's inks (OEM), and which may be why some people do
not use OEM inks.
What is absolutely true is that the majority of the profit computer
printer manufacturers make is from ink/toner and papers, not the
printers, which are often sold a a minor percentage above cost.
With laser printers (black and even more-so color), almost all now come
with partially filled cartridges, and the cost to replace the cartridges
is more than the cost of the printer with the so-called "starter"
cartridges.
Do some research to determine cost of refills, how involved it is and
how much it will save you and make you own decision if it works for you.
If your HP printer uses "incorporated heads in the cartridge (I believe
the 56 and 57 are these types) the heads will eventually fail. You may
get between 3 and 20 refills, depending upon the head. On average
probably 8-10 refills before the head begins to degrade or fails completely.
Art
If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:
http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/
D
Dowop
Thank you for your very throughtful information and advice. FYI, I do
have the time to do the refills, thus my looking into this area.
have the time to do the refills, thus my looking into this area.
M
measekite
Dowop said:Be aware that Measekite has zero experience with refilling HP
cartridges, and in using aftermarket inks. It is true that some
aftermarket inks have been tested by various agencies against OEM, and
have been found to fade more quickly under adverse conditions. However,
I don't know of any tests that pitted aftermarket ink from
higher-quality sources against OEM. Also, if you keep your photo prints
out of the light or under glass, they will last MUCH longer. Office-type
prints that are stored in filing cabinets should last as long as the
paper does.
As for the "mess," well, a lot depends on how much of a klutz you are.
If you can't put jam on your toast in the morning without dropping it,
refilling is not for you. If you don't dare eat soup without a bib,
refilling is not for you. But for most of us, a bit of care eliminates
any "mess."
TJ
He forgot to say to you that the vast majority of what he prints are throw
away flyers where quality is totally unimportant.
M
measekite
Let me second a caveat regarding the person on this forum who is known
as either Measekite or inkystinky.
His "information" is heavily biased against refilling or any type, in
spite of his never having (admitted to have) used 3rd party or bulk
inks, or to refill cartridges. He uses one or two Canon printers only
with OEM inks, and does not have the experience or knowledge base to be
making his blanket statements
To show you that this top posting pious know it all knows is that I also
have an HP990Cse and I use HP ink there. I use my Canon mostly for
photos..
There are many people who are completely independent of any ink supplier
who have used 3rd party inks for many years, saving hundreds and even
thousands of dollars. They will tell you there are both good and bad
3rd party ink vendors and can probably suggest good sources.
There are many pretenders who post in this ng who either own or are
employed by many of the fly by nite ink sellers. Many of them have
multiple websites and sell the same crap under different names. One major
one went out of business.
Although bad ink may cause your printer's head to clog temporarily, it
very very rarely causes any permanent damage. The issue really comes
That is a lie.
down to if your time and effort is worth the savings, and for each of us
it will be different. If you have a lot of money accessible, and your
time is very valuable, you may not be able to justify refilling. If you
make a great deal of money and profit on your prints, again it may not
be worth your while. Then again, some inks offered by 3rd party
I do not sell my prints but I do pay a little more for better quality and
less aggravation.
manufacturers or distributors can actually be of better quality than the
printer manufacturer's inks (OEM), and which may be why some people do
not use OEM inks.
What is absolutely true is that the majority of the profit computer
printer manufacturers make is from ink/toner and papers, not the
printers, which are often sold a a minor percentage above cost.
With laser printers (black and even more-so color), almost all now come
with partially filled cartridges, and the cost to replace the cartridges
is more than the cost of the printer with the so-called "starter"
cartridges.
Laser is for business and not for photos.
T
TJ
measekite said:He forgot to say to you that the vast majority of what he prints are throw
away flyers where quality is totally unimportant.
I didn't say that because it's not true. While a lot of what I print is
those throw-aways, it is not the "vast majority." It's probably, oh,
35%. Another 35% or so would be office-type stuff, including tax forms,
spreadsheet financial and other bookkeeping documents, word processor
documents, photocopies, reports for the government, and farm maps for
reporting and planning purposes. The rest would be web pages, hard
copies of various downloaded manuals, the occasional glossy photo, plain
paper photo prints not meant to be archived, and driving directions from
Google now and then.
And by the way, it's now been 5 1/2 years, and I'm still waiting for the
first glossy photo that I printed with aftermarket ink to show signs of
fading. It's been hanging on my mother's bedroom wall all that time,
under glass, and looks as good now to me as it did the day I printed it.
TJ