Ghosting | Cloning HDD with WinXP

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Dan

Sometime ago I was easily making images of HDDs (such as case where I
had to get a bigger HDD without having to install everything) using
Symantec Ghost.

I am now faced with more or less similar problem, I have a small HDD
with Win XP that I'd like to place on a bigger HDD. Both are Win32.
Seems my Ghost (running from command prompt) doesn't work with these
newer OS's. Can someone tell me where to get a tool that works,
preferably free or evaluation?
 
Sometime ago I was easily making images of HDDs (such as case where I
had to get a bigger HDD without having to install everything) using
Symantec Ghost.

I am now faced with more or less similar problem, I have a small HDD
with Win XP that I'd like to place on a bigger HDD. Both are Win32.
Seems my Ghost (running from command prompt) doesn't work with these
newer OS's. Can someone tell me where to get a tool that works,
preferably free or evaluation?
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What version are you using?

All Ghost has to do is support is (presumably you're
using...) NTFS.

However, you might check for a HDD manufacturer's utility,
many can clone a smaller drive to larger. The OS used
really isn't an issue at all, only the partitioning and
filesystem. On the other hand, after you clone a partition,
the OS could expect it to be at a certain logical controller
position, especially if windows and you'd already booted
windows with the new drive connected it may have enumerated
and assigned a different drive letter.

More info about exactly what you're dealing with might help,
if the above doesn't.
 
What version are you using?

All Ghost has to do is support is (presumably you're
using...) NTFS.

However, you might check for a HDD manufacturer's utility,
many can clone a smaller drive to larger. The OS used
really isn't an issue at all, only the partitioning and
filesystem. On the other hand, after you clone a partition,
the OS could expect it to be at a certain logical controller
position, especially if windows and you'd already booted
windows with the new drive connected it may have enumerated
and assigned a different drive letter.

More info about exactly what you're dealing with might help,
if the above doesn't.
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Thanks for quick response.

Ghost 2000 is my version that doesn't seem to work: running it from XP
command prompt does nothing. Task manager lists it as "running"
although it does nothing, just blink-blink of cursor till you kill it.

Both HDDs are FAT32. One is Western Digital 10 GB with WinXP and some
programs on it, the other is Seagate, 40 GB (There is another 40 GB
one I've backupped some stuff which is NTFS, but doesn't feature in my
current problem, just data files for copying later--it's quite visible
when I boot with the XP thingy I wanna clone).

BTW I browsed relevant msgs on the Group, didn't find a satisfactory
solution.
 
Ghost 2000 is my version that doesn't seem to work: running it from XP
command prompt does nothing. Task manager lists it as "running"
although it does nothing, just blink-blink of cursor till you kill it.
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If it's a DOS version, you'll need to boot DOS to use it.
That doesn't necessarily mean it can't do NTFS backup or
restore, it's just the environment to run it.


Both HDDs are FAT32.
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Oh, even moreso, you should have no problems using even very
old versions so long as they support the capacity which
isnt' any recent issue. Just boot to DOS via your chosen
method instead of a command prompt. Further, many legay
utils won't work at the command prompt because windows is
running (that filesystem).


One is Western Digital 10 GB with WinXP and some
programs on it, the other is Seagate, 40 GB (There is another 40 GB
one I've backupped some stuff which is NTFS, but doesn't feature in my
current problem, just data files for copying later--it's quite visible
when I boot with the XP thingy I wanna clone).

BTW I browsed relevant msgs on the Group, didn't find a satisfactory
solution.
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Run it from a DOS boot floppy, CD, or thumbdrive. Main
thing with these legacy utils is, it's not running windows
at the moment.
 
Somewhere on teh intarweb "Dan" typed:
programs on it, the other is Seagate,
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Then you can download and use Seagate's free "DiskWizard" software. It's
excellent for ghosting/cloning HDDs, as long as one of them is either
Seagate or Maxtor. It's simply a cut-down version of Acronis True Image and
works really well. If I didn't already use solely Seagate drives that free
software would be a compelling reason to do so.
--
TTFN,

Shaun.

"another academic failure.... trying to prove that your smart"
'blanking', nz.comp, 20 Dec 2007.

"your so predictable misfit"
'blanking', nz.comp, 21 Dec 2007.
 
Somewhere on teh intarweb "Dan" typed:


Then you can download and use Seagate's free "DiskWizard" software. It's
excellent for ghosting/cloning HDDs, as long as one of them is either
Seagate or Maxtor. It's simply a cut-down version of Acronis True Image and
works really well. If I didn't already use solely Seagate drives that free
software would be a compelling reason to do so.
--
TTFN,

Shaun.

"another academic failure.... trying to prove that your smart"
'blanking', nz.comp, 20 Dec 2007.

"your so predictable misfit"
'blanking', nz.comp, 21 Dec 2007.
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Dear all, I am happy to report that my matter has been resolved, thanx
to all who contributed.

I partiuIarly thank Kony who always responds to posts immediately
(what material are these guys made of, rock??) I am going to be very
wordy, hoping someone who's gone through my problem before or in
future will learn something here. One well-meaning fella suggested I
should use Seagate utility. I did visit the Seagate website and saw
the suggested download. it would cost me 30+ dollars to download the
hundred-plus megabyte utility at home where my isp charges by
megabyte.

I then tried hard to get Kony suggestion work. I have a Win98 floppy
which still works (small miracle!) that I used to boot the P3 Dell.
Whoever followed this thread from the beginning would recall I
mentioned somewhere about the older Ghost2000 not doing anything when
run. Apparently the program I was attempting to run was a file that
had been "cured" by some antivirus after detecting infection, in the
process damaging the EXE file.

This must be the case because when I managed to get a backup CD copy I
discovered that the original file was some 5 megabyte smaller than
what i'd been attemting to use. and when run, the smaller file worked
fine.

Before browsing my archives I attempted to download some stuff from
Symantec, got 56 MB trial that was supposed to keep your network
backed up, which was not my interest. The HDD clone feature was not
available, only for licenced users.
I thank you guys who came forth with suggestions, again.
 
Dear all, I am happy to report that my matter has been resolved, thanx
to all who contributed.

I partiuIarly thank Kony who always responds to posts immediately
(what material are these guys made of, rock??) I am going to be very
wordy, hoping someone who's gone through my problem before or in
future will learn something here. One well-meaning fella suggested I
should use Seagate utility. I did visit the Seagate website and saw
the suggested download. it would cost me 30+ dollars to download the
hundred-plus megabyte utility at home where my isp charges by
megabyte.
Click to expand...

Ouch! I'd try to find another ISP and consider using a
usenet server to access messages instead of the larger data
stream from Google Groups, but of course Google Groups is
one of the only reasonable ways to search past topics beyond
what you'd already downloaded and stored.


I then tried hard to get Kony suggestion work. I have a Win98 floppy
which still works (small miracle!) that I used to boot the P3 Dell.
Whoever followed this thread from the beginning would recall I
mentioned somewhere about the older Ghost2000 not doing anything when
run. Apparently the program I was attempting to run was a file that
had been "cured" by some antivirus after detecting infection, in the
process damaging the EXE file.

This must be the case because when I managed to get a backup CD copy I
discovered that the original file was some 5 megabyte smaller than
what i'd been attemting to use. and when run, the smaller file worked
fine.

Before browsing my archives I attempted to download some stuff from
Symantec, got 56 MB trial that was supposed to keep your network
backed up, which was not my interest. The HDD clone feature was not
available, only for licenced users.
I thank you guys who came forth with suggestions, again.
Click to expand...


Gotta love backups. They seem so boring till you need them.
Sometimes when you're only missing (or there's damage to) a
file or two you can find them on the internet by searching
for the filename, though you have to also check whether it's
the right version of the file.
 
Somewhere on teh intarweb "Dan" typed:
Dear all, I am happy to report that my matter has been resolved, thanx
to all who contributed.

I partiuIarly thank Kony who always responds to posts immediately
(what material are these guys made of, rock??) I am going to be very
wordy, hoping someone who's gone through my problem before or in
future will learn something here. One well-meaning fella suggested I
should use Seagate utility. I did visit the Seagate website and saw
the suggested download. it would cost me 30+ dollars to download the
hundred-plus megabyte utility at home where my isp charges by
megabyte.
Click to expand...

Nasty! You might be better served buying the full version of the software
locally then. It's Acronis True Image.
I then tried hard to get Kony suggestion work. I have a Win98 floppy
which still works (small miracle!) that I used to boot the P3 Dell.
Whoever followed this thread from the beginning would recall I
mentioned somewhere about the older Ghost2000 not doing anything when
run. Apparently the program I was attempting to run was a file that
had been "cured" by some antivirus after detecting infection, in the
process damaging the EXE file.

This must be the case because when I managed to get a backup CD copy I
discovered that the original file was some 5 megabyte smaller than
what i'd been attemting to use. and when run, the smaller file worked
fine.

Before browsing my archives I attempted to download some stuff from
Symantec, got 56 MB trial that was supposed to keep your network
backed up, which was not my interest. The HDD clone feature was not
available, only for licenced users.
I thank you guys who came forth with suggestions, again.
Click to expand...

Odd that you'd download that blindly when I'd told you about a utility that
*will* do the job and is less than twice the size. <shrug>

Good luck.
--
TTFN,

Shaun.

"your a moron"
"Neoren", alt.drugs.hard. 20 Oct 2007

"another academic failure.... trying to prove that your smart"
'blanking', nz.comp, 20 Dec 2007.
 
Nasty! You might be better served buying the full version of the software
locally then. It's Acronis True Image.
Click to expand...

Acronis actually offered a full version for free, download,
at some point in the past year. Looking in my archive it
seems it was version 7 and I downloaded it on either Oct.
'06 or Jan. '07., probably Oct. '06.

I've no idea if it's possible to still get that old version
for free but it's a thought. It does "seem" (hard to
remember the details of something that was free?) at the
time one had to create an account and provide an email
address so you'd be emailed the installation key or serial
number.

I just don't know enough about TrueImage to know what
milestones were reached in which version(s).
 
kony said:
Acronis actually offered a full version for free, download,
at some point in the past year. Looking in my archive it
seems it was version 7 and I downloaded it on either Oct.
'06 or Jan. '07., probably Oct. '06.

I've no idea if it's possible to still get that old version
for free but it's a thought. It does "seem" (hard to
remember the details of something that was free?) at the
time one had to create an account and provide an email
address so you'd be emailed the installation key or serial
number.

I just don't know enough about TrueImage to know what
milestones were reached in which version(s).
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The Seagate branded version allows for creation of a bootable ISO with a
great variety of drivers. This functionality is, AFAIK, identical to
premium versions of TrueImage. Functionality within Windows is crippled
compared to premium versions.
 
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