Ghost or better copy application.

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I have Ghost 2002 on original floppy that is no longer booting any more. I
think it is missing a file. I would like to find out how to restore this
application so I can use it again or find another way to ghost my 80 Gig
System drive back up before I upgrade to a larger main drive. Does the
installation disk of the new drive come with a ghosting application?

Thanks for any help.

CW
 
CW said:
I have Ghost 2002 on original floppy that is no longer booting any more. I
think it is missing a file. I would like to find out how to restore this
application so I can use it again or find another way to ghost my 80 Gig
System drive back up before I upgrade to a larger main drive. Does the
installation disk of the new drive come with a ghosting application?
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If you buy a retail hard drive, it will come with a utility to copy the
old drive to the new one. If you buy whitebox, you can download the
utility from the hard drive mftr.'s website.

Or you can buy Acronis True Image for your imaging and backup needs. No,
I don't work for them - I just like their software!


Malke
 
Malke said:
If you buy a retail hard drive, it will come with a utility to copy
the old drive to the new one. If you buy whitebox, you can download
the utility from the hard drive mftr.'s website.

Or you can buy Acronis True Image for your imaging and backup needs.
No, I don't work for them - I just like their software!


Malke
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How would it be better then some of the backup software that is free or
comes bundled with so many other applications? I have Nero BackitUp and NT
Backup Express to mention a few. I have never used anything other than that
old Ghost floppy. I would like to use one that lets you create a floppy like
Ghost if this feature is available.

The simplest thing that would help me is to find out what file is missing
from the floppy I have and download it somewhere.

What is your opinion in light of the option I have? I am in favor of
paying for Acronis if it is somehow more useful than what I already have.

Thanks.
 
CW said:
How would it be better then some of the backup software that is free or
comes bundled with so many other applications? I have Nero BackitUp and NT
Backup Express to mention a few. I have never used anything other than that
old Ghost floppy. I would like to use one that lets you create a floppy like
Ghost if this feature is available.

The simplest thing that would help me is to find out what file is missing
from the floppy I have and download it somewhere.

What is your opinion in light of the option I have? I am in favor of
paying for Acronis if it is somehow more useful than what I already have.
Click to expand...

I've never used Nero BackItUp so I can't comment on it. Does it do
imaging? If not, then it isn't the same as Ghost. NTBackup is an old
backup program designed for NT4 and tape drives. It doesn't do imaging.
From your original post, I thought you were looking to replace Norton
Ghost. I have no idea why your floppy doesn't work any more. The error
message you are getting means that either the disk itself is damaged or
the floppy drive is damaged, not that a file needs to be replaced.
Either instance would not be unusual. Troubleshooting steps would be to
create a new floppy boot disk from your Norton program and try it. You
could also see if the current disk works in another drive. If it does,
then you know your drive needs to be replaced. If it doesn't, you know
it's the floppy disk.

If you no longer have the original Ghost program installed anywhere, you
won't be able to make a new bootdisk and if it turns out that the floppy
disk is no good, then you'll have no choice but to try another imaging
program. Ghost, True Image, and BootIT NG are imaging programs.


Malke
 
Doen't the original Norton Ghost 2002 program come with an option to CREATE
a boot-up floppy? If so, just create another one. My problem with Norton
Ghost 2002 is that it wants to make the floppy on either floppy drive A or
B -- I don't have a floppy drive on either of my laptops. I have CD drives
and an External HD. I cannot get either of those drives to accept Drive
Letters A or B. So how do I create the bootup floppy? Do you know?
 
CW said:
I have Ghost 2002 on original floppy that is no longer booting any more. I
think it is missing a file. I would like to find out how to restore this
application so I can use it again or find another way to ghost my 80 Gig
System drive back up before I upgrade to a larger main drive. Does the
installation disk of the new drive come with a ghosting application?

Thanks for any help.

CW
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CW:
First of all...I would recommend you jettison the Ghost 2002 program. We
have found it most unreliable using that program in a Windows XP
environment.

In a later post you indicated you preferred a disk imaging (disk cloning)
program that could be contained on a bootable floppy disk. At least that's
what I understood you to want. If that *is* the case then you should
consider the Ghost 2003 program which generally works fine in an XP
environment for basic disk-to-disk cloning of hard drives. A Ghost bootable
floppy disk can be easily created from the program.

The problem is finding a vendor who has the Ghost 2003 program available for
sale. This software has virtually disappeared from the market as a
standalone product (although the Ghost 9 & 10 retail, boxed versions contain
a copy).

We've been able to locate only two online vendors who seem to carry the
product (in the $25 - $30 range the last time we checked)...
http://www.viosoftware.com/Ghost/Ghost+2003+(CD+Only).html

http://www.pricegrabber.com/user_sales_getprod.php?masterid=606754&lot_id=1133654

If having a bootable floppy disk of the disk imaging program isn't crucial
to your needs then I would second Malke's recommendation re the Acronis
program.
Anna
 
Malke said:
I've never used Nero BackItUp so I can't comment on it. Does it do
imaging? If not, then it isn't the same as Ghost. NTBackup is an old
backup program designed for NT4 and tape drives. It doesn't do
imaging. From your original post, I thought you were looking to
replace Norton Ghost. I have no idea why your floppy doesn't work any
more. The error message you are getting means that either the disk
itself is damaged or the floppy drive is damaged, not that a file
needs to be replaced. Either instance would not be unusual.
Troubleshooting steps would be to create a new floppy boot disk from
your Norton program and try it. You could also see if the current
disk works in another drive. If it does, then you know your drive
needs to be replaced. If it doesn't, you know it's the floppy disk.

If you no longer have the original Ghost program installed anywhere,
you won't be able to make a new bootdisk and if it turns out that the
floppy disk is no good, then you'll have no choice but to try another
imaging program. Ghost, True Image, and BootIT NG are imaging
programs.

Malke
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I am looking to replace my Ghost boot floppy without having to buy the
software again. I noticed you had recommended Acronis. I was curious how it
compared to other backup packages. It seems hard to tell from reading if one
or the other will indeed allow you to create a boot floppy. I can do
everything I think I need to do unless someone can tell me why Acronis is
superior to the others.

What other back up software have you use that you can make a comparison?
 
Doen't the original Norton Ghost 2002 program come with an option to
CREATE a boot-up floppy? If so, just create another one. My problem
with Norton Ghost 2002 is that it wants to make the floppy on either
floppy drive A or B -- I don't have a floppy drive on either of my
laptops. I have CD drives and an External HD. I cannot get either
of those drives to accept Drive Letters A or B. So how do I create
the bootup floppy? Do you know?
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Maybe you can change your external drive letter to A or B. I have never
heard of this working but it is something I would try.


All I have left of my Norton software is a floppy that from what I can tell
is an original. It has a printed label that has Ghost 2002 printed on the
front with a 12 digit lic: number that needs to be entered before you can
use it. It also says "Network Boot Disk" and "Xircom RealPort PCMCIA" in
small print on the front. I can't even remember what drive or software
package it came with.

If you manage to get a floppy made I would like to find out what the file
names are that get written.

Good luck and please post back and let me know what you end up doing.
 
Anna said:
CW:
First of all...I would recommend you jettison the Ghost 2002 program.
We have found it most unreliable using that program in a Windows XP
environment.

In a later post you indicated you preferred a disk imaging (disk
cloning) program that could be contained on a bootable floppy disk.
At least that's what I understood you to want. If that *is* the case
then you should consider the Ghost 2003 program which generally works
fine in an XP environment for basic disk-to-disk cloning of hard
drives. A Ghost bootable floppy disk can be easily created from the
program.
The problem is finding a vendor who has the Ghost 2003 program
available for sale. This software has virtually disappeared from the
market as a standalone product (although the Ghost 9 & 10 retail,
boxed versions contain a copy).

We've been able to locate only two online vendors who seem to carry
the product (in the $25 - $30 range the last time we checked)...
http://www.viosoftware.com/Ghost/Ghost+2003+(CD+Only).html

http://www.pricegrabber.com/user_sales_getprod.php?masterid=606754&lot_id=1133654

If having a bootable floppy disk of the disk imaging program isn't
crucial to your needs then I would second Malke's recommendation re
the Acronis program.
Anna
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I have used Ghost 2002 on that floppy many times. Mainly because it has
always worked fine and it is all I have ever used. I was disappointed to
find that it no longer works for some reason.

I was trying to copy the files from it to back them up in a folder when I
clocked move by mistake. I then moved them back and I thought all went well
but when I went to use is it now gives me a boot error. I thought maybe I
removed a needed hidden file and failed to move it back.

As I mentioned in another post all I really need is that one ability to
boot image writing software without purchase of app with features I don;t
need.

Thanks for your reply Anna

Regards

CW
 
I wrote: " cannot get either of those drives to accept Drive Letters A or
B." I should have been more clear -- I have tried to change the drive
letters for the CD drive, the USB flash drive, and the USB external drive.
None of the utilities I have will allow those drives to be changed to A or
B.
 
Anna --
Can you give us a list of the files that ARE on your Ghost boot floppy?

<*(((><

~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Acronis requires a boot floppy, and has a utility to make them.
Acronis won't let you work with images saved on an external HD, unless the
external HD is in the BIOS. I guess that means it is listed as a boot-up
device in BIOS? Can anybody clarify?
I'm speaking of Acronis 8.

<*(((><

~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
I wrote: " cannot get either of those drives to accept Drive Letters
A or B." I should have been more clear -- I have tried to change
the drive letters for the CD drive, the USB flash drive, and the USB
external drive. None of the utilities I have will allow those drives
to be changed to A or B.
Click to expand...
You were clear. I just missed it. Doh.
 
I wrote: " cannot get either of those drives to accept Drive Letters
A or B." I should have been more clear -- I have tried to change
the drive letters for the CD drive, the USB flash drive, and the USB
external drive. None of the utilities I have will allow those drives
to be changed to A or B.
Click to expand...

Sorry for the name change. I am now having troubles with one machine
sending and tried a different account.

CW
 
I wrote: " cannot get either of those drives to accept Drive Letters A or B." I should have been more clear -- I have tried to
change the drive letters for the CD drive, the USB flash drive, and the USB external drive. None of the utilities I have will allow
those drives to be changed to A or B.
Click to expand...

You might try mounting a virtual floppy, creating the boot disk and then
creating a boot CD from the floppy.

VM Back - Virtual Floppy Drive 2.1
http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html

The program syntax is fairly terse. From a cmd prompt you'd run something
like-

vfd start
(to start the driver, then)
vfd open c:\MyFloppy.vfd /new /w /1.44

See the readme for more details.
 
Can you read the contents of the floppy from within Windows? If you can , is
ghost.exe and ghreboot.exe on it?

If they are, copy both files to another blank floppy disk.
Now boot up with a 98 DOS boot disk, it will prompt a warning during boot that the C:
drive is not FAT yada yada, the warning can be ignored.
Once you are at the command prompt remove the 98 DOS boot disk and insert the disk
that has ghost.exe and ghreboot.exe on it.
At the prompt type: ghost.exe and press Enter.
Ghost will now run so you can perform backup/recovery tasks.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
 
Brian said:
Can you read the contents of the floppy from within Windows? If you
can , is ghost.exe and ghreboot.exe on it?

If they are, copy both files to another blank floppy disk.
Now boot up with a 98 DOS boot disk, it will prompt a warning during
boot that the C: drive is not FAT yada yada, the warning can be
ignored. Once you are at the command prompt remove the 98 DOS boot disk
and
insert the disk that has ghost.exe and ghreboot.exe on it.
At the prompt type: ghost.exe and press Enter.
Ghost will now run so you can perform backup/recovery tasks.
Click to expand...

What I have showing on my disk is a folder named GHOST in that is an
application named GHOSTPE along with a text file named GHOSTERR

Next is a folder named NET in it an MS DOS application named Ce3pd

Next there are MS-DOS applications named IBMBIO, IBMDOS, MOUSE, and
configuration settings file named MOUSE.

It would at one time boot to a screen where I had to enter the serial
number and the rest was easy.

CW
 
CW said:
What I have showing on my disk is a folder named GHOST in that is an application
named GHOSTPE along with a text file named GHOSTERR
Click to expand...

That would be GhostPE.exe, correct? That's essentially Ghost, with the disk in the
drive, at a command prompt type the below command and press Enter. If you get a
"path not found" or similar message, you will have to use the "cd" (change directory)
command.

ghost\ghostpe.exe

Ghost should start.
Next is a folder named NET in it an MS DOS application named Ce3pd
Click to expand...

The folder will contain the files needed for a network boot, Ce3pd is the packet
drivers for the NIC.
Next there are MS-DOS applications named IBMBIO, IBMDOS, MOUSE, and configuration
settings file named MOUSE.
Click to expand...

Files needed to boot to PC DOS and DOS mouse support.
It would at one time boot to a screen where I had to enter the serial number and
the rest was easy.
Click to expand...

I've never seen that, however I've always used the full version of Ghost. I've
never needed to enter an SN no matter which type of boot disk was used, which I
haven't used in a very very long time. All backup images and restores are now done
via network to a dedicated BU pc.
CW
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--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
 
Brian said:
That would be GhostPE.exe, correct? That's essentially Ghost, with
the disk in the drive, at a command prompt type the below command and
press Enter. If you get a "path not found" or similar message, you
will have to use the "cd" (change directory) command.

ghost\ghostpe.exe

Ghost should start.
Click to expand...
If I try to run this file a windows that looks like DOS shows up for a
while and nothing happens. Should I be booting to DOS to run this file? This
floppy used to boot right to the application. That is why I thought a boot
file might be corrupt and maybe I can replace it.

CW
 
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