G
Guest
how do i get rid of it? i dont use it , but everytime i log on to the web, it asks me do i want to update. its really annoying
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Tee
First reboot you computer in safe mode (press F8 at
startup) select command promt mode.
type
cd\
cd\program files\messenger
rename msmsgs.exe,stoploading.exe
By renaming the file it will not load at startup, and if
you ever want to use it just go back and rename it
msmsgs.exe again
You must do this in safe mode or it will not let you
change the file name.
Works for me.
really annoying
startup) select command promt mode.
type
cd\
cd\program files\messenger
rename msmsgs.exe,stoploading.exe
By renaming the file it will not load at startup, and if
you ever want to use it just go back and rename it
msmsgs.exe again
You must do this in safe mode or it will not let you
change the file name.
Works for me.
log on to the web, it asks me do i want to update. its-----Original Message-----
how do i get rid of it? i dont use it , but everytime i
really annoying
G
Guest
MSN messenger is a curse apoun all users{just for the record
i believe the way mentined before, will only keep you from being bothered by messenger. i believe the service still loads, on startup, which tasks resources, and time
startout by going under administratie tools, and select computer managment, on the left side br there should be a a link to services, under their there will be a sercive caalled messenger. this sercive is upposedly used by outlook, outlook express, and msn explorer. i do not know for sure for i've un-instaled all of them. if you uses these other programs u should just rename the messenger folder, and described ealier
now on to the fu
now right click on the messenger service, and select stop, then right click it again and select properties, and disable the service. Now goto C:\windows\inf {the folder'inf' is a hidden file, so you will need to go to tools, and select folder options, and make sure view hidden folders is unchecked, and hide protected operating system files is un-checked. inside the inf folder their will be a file called sysco. this file should look something like thi
[Components
NtComponents=ntoc.dll,NtOcSetupProc,,
WBEM=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wbemoc.inf,hide,
Display=desk.cpl,DisplayOcSetupProc,,
Fax=fxsocm.dll,FaxOcmSetupProc,fxsocm.inf,,
NetOC=netoc.dll,NetOcSetupProc,netoc.inf,,
iis=iis.dll,OcEntry,iis.inf,,
com=comsetup.dll,OcEntry,comnt5.inf,hide,
dtc=msdtcstp.dll,OcEntry,dtcnt5.inf,hide,
IndexSrv_System = setupqry.dll,IndexSrv,setupqry.inf,,
TerminalServer=TsOc.dll, HydraOc, TsOc.inf,hide,
msmq=msmqocm.dll,MsmqOcm,msmqocm.inf,,
ims=imsinsnt.dll,OcEntry,ims.inf,,
fp_extensions=fp40ext.dll,FrontPage4Extensions,fp40ext.inf,,7
AutoUpdate=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,au.inf,hide,
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,
WMAccess=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wmaccess.inf,,
RootAutoUpdate=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,rootau.inf,,
IEAccess=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,ieaccess.inf,,
OEAccess=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,oeaccess.inf,,
WMPOCM=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wmpocm.inf,,
now this is the line we are intrested i
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,
notice how their is a hide towards the en
we want it to look more like thi
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,,
it is very important that you leave the ,, in place and only remove the hid
now under the add/remove programs their will be a new icon below the msn messenger. it is going to ac like a bitch but unclick it andremove them, and restart. if it is still their, try again ...
,good luck, and happy hunting
bluegeek out
i believe the way mentined before, will only keep you from being bothered by messenger. i believe the service still loads, on startup, which tasks resources, and time
startout by going under administratie tools, and select computer managment, on the left side br there should be a a link to services, under their there will be a sercive caalled messenger. this sercive is upposedly used by outlook, outlook express, and msn explorer. i do not know for sure for i've un-instaled all of them. if you uses these other programs u should just rename the messenger folder, and described ealier
now on to the fu
now right click on the messenger service, and select stop, then right click it again and select properties, and disable the service. Now goto C:\windows\inf {the folder'inf' is a hidden file, so you will need to go to tools, and select folder options, and make sure view hidden folders is unchecked, and hide protected operating system files is un-checked. inside the inf folder their will be a file called sysco. this file should look something like thi
[Components
NtComponents=ntoc.dll,NtOcSetupProc,,
WBEM=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wbemoc.inf,hide,
Display=desk.cpl,DisplayOcSetupProc,,
Fax=fxsocm.dll,FaxOcmSetupProc,fxsocm.inf,,
NetOC=netoc.dll,NetOcSetupProc,netoc.inf,,
iis=iis.dll,OcEntry,iis.inf,,
com=comsetup.dll,OcEntry,comnt5.inf,hide,
dtc=msdtcstp.dll,OcEntry,dtcnt5.inf,hide,
IndexSrv_System = setupqry.dll,IndexSrv,setupqry.inf,,
TerminalServer=TsOc.dll, HydraOc, TsOc.inf,hide,
msmq=msmqocm.dll,MsmqOcm,msmqocm.inf,,
ims=imsinsnt.dll,OcEntry,ims.inf,,
fp_extensions=fp40ext.dll,FrontPage4Extensions,fp40ext.inf,,7
AutoUpdate=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,au.inf,hide,
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,
WMAccess=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wmaccess.inf,,
RootAutoUpdate=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,rootau.inf,,
IEAccess=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,ieaccess.inf,,
OEAccess=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,oeaccess.inf,,
WMPOCM=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,wmpocm.inf,,
now this is the line we are intrested i
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,
notice how their is a hide towards the en
we want it to look more like thi
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,,
it is very important that you leave the ,, in place and only remove the hid
now under the add/remove programs their will be a new icon below the msn messenger. it is going to ac like a bitch but unclick it andremove them, and restart. if it is still their, try again ...
,good luck, and happy hunting
bluegeek out
C
Cerridwen
BlueGeek9 wrote:
You, sir, are an idiot. The messenger service has NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO
WITH MESSENGER! Not only that, but turning it off is stupid and foolish in
the extreme. Please read - and inwardly digest - the below.
Do the title bars of these pop-ups read "Messenger Service?"
This particular "sales method" is strikingly similar to the
"protection" rackets offered to small businesses by organized
criminals. Yes, it's a scam; no reputable business would need to
resort to extortion. Particularly since they're trying to sell you a
type of protection that is already available to you free of charge.
This type of spam has become quite common over the past few
months, and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It
demonstrates that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised
by these specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit,
you may well be open to other threats. Install and use a decent,
properly configured firewall. (Disabling the messenger service, as
some people recommend, only hides the symptom, and does nothing to
secure your machine.) And ignoring or just "putting up with" these
messages and the problem they represent is particularly foolish.
Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893
Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904
Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service is a "head in the sand" approach to computer security.
The real problem is not the messenger service pop-ups; they're
actually providing a useful service by acting as a security alert. The
true problem is the unsecured computer, and you've been
advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this helpful?
Equivalent Scenario 1: Somewhere in a house, a small fire starts,
and sets off the smoke alarm. You, not immediately seeing any
fire/smoke, complain about the noise of the smoke detector, and are
advised to remove the smoke detector's battery and go back to sleep.
Equivalent Scenario 2: You over-exert your shoulder at work or
play, causing bursitis. After weeks of annoying and sometimes
excruciating pain whenever you try to reach over your head, you go to
a doctor and say, while demonstrating the motion, "Doc, it hurts when
I do this." The doctor, being as helpful as some of your respondents,
replies, "Well, don't do that."
I'm beginning to think that the people deliberately posting such
bad advice are hacker-wannabes who have no true interest in helping
you secure your system, but would rather give you a false sense of
security while ensuring that your computer is still open to
exploitation.
As for getting rid of WM, it's easy. You can download a script to kill it
from Doug Knox (MVP)'s site here
www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm. It's perfectly safe - I've
used it. Doug is a well liked, respected and trusted member of the MVP
community.
Don't install NAV - it has a nasty habit of screwing up other things (like
parts of Office for example).
You, sir, are an idiot. The messenger service has NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO
WITH MESSENGER! Not only that, but turning it off is stupid and foolish in
the extreme. Please read - and inwardly digest - the below.
Do the title bars of these pop-ups read "Messenger Service?"
This particular "sales method" is strikingly similar to the
"protection" rackets offered to small businesses by organized
criminals. Yes, it's a scam; no reputable business would need to
resort to extortion. Particularly since they're trying to sell you a
type of protection that is already available to you free of charge.
This type of spam has become quite common over the past few
months, and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It
demonstrates that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised
by these specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit,
you may well be open to other threats. Install and use a decent,
properly configured firewall. (Disabling the messenger service, as
some people recommend, only hides the symptom, and does nothing to
secure your machine.) And ignoring or just "putting up with" these
messages and the problem they represent is particularly foolish.
Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893
Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904
Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service is a "head in the sand" approach to computer security.
The real problem is not the messenger service pop-ups; they're
actually providing a useful service by acting as a security alert. The
true problem is the unsecured computer, and you've been
advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this helpful?
Equivalent Scenario 1: Somewhere in a house, a small fire starts,
and sets off the smoke alarm. You, not immediately seeing any
fire/smoke, complain about the noise of the smoke detector, and are
advised to remove the smoke detector's battery and go back to sleep.
Equivalent Scenario 2: You over-exert your shoulder at work or
play, causing bursitis. After weeks of annoying and sometimes
excruciating pain whenever you try to reach over your head, you go to
a doctor and say, while demonstrating the motion, "Doc, it hurts when
I do this." The doctor, being as helpful as some of your respondents,
replies, "Well, don't do that."
I'm beginning to think that the people deliberately posting such
bad advice are hacker-wannabes who have no true interest in helping
you secure your system, but would rather give you a false sense of
security while ensuring that your computer is still open to
exploitation.
As for getting rid of WM, it's easy. You can download a script to kill it
from Doug Knox (MVP)'s site here
www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm. It's perfectly safe - I've
used it. Doug is a well liked, respected and trusted member of the MVP
community.
Don't install NAV - it has a nasty habit of screwing up other things (like
parts of Office for example).