Genuine Validation

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I noticed when I try and install Denfender on a computer that has not
downloaded and installed the Genuine Validation, Windows Defender says that
the product Key is invalid.
Anyone else having this problem?
 
Yes but the problem is when the Genuine Validation is not installed on the
machine it says the Windows Key is invalid, I then have to go download the
Genuine Validation then install WD again. IE7 does not have this problem.
 
JoeM said:
I noticed when I try and install Denfender on a computer that has not downloaded
and installed the Genuine Validation, Windows Defender says that the product Key is
invalid.
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"WGA" - Windows Genuine Advantage FAQ;
http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/faq.aspx
Anyone else having this problem?
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Is your "COA" Genuine? How To Tell;
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/howtotell/ww/default.mspx

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Not much that I can say except that they've apparently chosen this mode of
operation. Presumably this allows the app to know that WGA has been passed
on this particular machine.

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I understand that it checks the key, I am just saying it is weird that when
I install WD it says the key is invalid. Then when I go to the Windows
update site(the first time) it downloads the Genuine Validation program and
says the key is Good. Then after I do this then WD says my key is valid.
Weird.
Thanks
 
I'll see if I can figure out a way to see this in action--it does sound as
though the message doesn't give the user direct guidance about what they
need to do to correct the situation. If they are talking about the product
key, it is just as valid before and after WGA--the issue is that the system
hasn't actually been checked against WGA yet.

Can you say more about what type of system this was? In the case of large
oem systems where the OS is bios-locked to the motherboard, the product ID
is never entered, because the system never needs to be activated.

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It is a Dell laptop Inspiration 600m, Windows XP Home SP2. Remember this
computer never went to the Windows Update site before and I did not download
WD on that machine (I just transfer the file over from another computer).
 
I've got one of those myself. I just loaded Small Business Server 2003 on
it as a test run to see how it would go.

It would qualify as a bios-locked oem machine--the product ID on the sticker
on the bottom isn't entered into the registry as part of Activation, 'cause
you are never asked to activate it. Some older WGA versions required you to
get that number off the bottom and enter it as part of the WGA check, but I
think they have eliminated that step these days.

So that might explain the messages--there's no valid product ID wherever WGA
is looking for it when it has never been through Activation or WGA--and
after WGA there's something there--not sure what, but obviously it passes.

I used BootItNG to scale the C partition down to half the drive size, and
created a second partition which I use for other OS versions--I test Vista
on it, and I'm running SBS 2003 for a week or so just to be sure I know my
way around it for a deployment in an office that I'm working with.

Nice little machine, but mine has a failure between the power jack on the
back and the motherboard--it doesn't recognize when the power supply is
connected, and thus won't charge the battery or power the laptop.
Fortunately, it does work with the port replicator, which connects through
the stuff on the bottom--so far, I'm living with it rather than sending it
in to replace the motherboard.
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Nice machine :) Thanks Bill

Bill Sanderson said:
I've got one of those myself. I just loaded Small Business Server 2003
on it as a test run to see how it would go.

It would qualify as a bios-locked oem machine--the product ID on the
sticker on the bottom isn't entered into the registry as part of
Activation, 'cause you are never asked to activate it. Some older WGA
versions required you to get that number off the bottom and enter it as
part of the WGA check, but I think they have eliminated that step these
days.

So that might explain the messages--there's no valid product ID wherever
WGA is looking for it when it has never been through Activation or
WGA--and after WGA there's something there--not sure what, but obviously
it passes.

I used BootItNG to scale the C partition down to half the drive size, and
created a second partition which I use for other OS versions--I test Vista
on it, and I'm running SBS 2003 for a week or so just to be sure I know my
way around it for a deployment in an office that I'm working with.

Nice little machine, but mine has a failure between the power jack on the
back and the motherboard--it doesn't recognize when the power supply is
connected, and thus won't charge the battery or power the laptop.
Fortunately, it does work with the port replicator, which connects through
the stuff on the bottom--so far, I'm living with it rather than sending it
in to replace the motherboard.
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