General demeanour et al

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Stephany Young

Am I the only one who finds the amount of general chit-chat and flames that
seems to have crept into this group recently rather intrusive.

When thanking someone for their contribution, surely a simple 'Thank you'
would suffice rather than starting an in-group 'hero worship' club.

Likewise, I am sure that my knowledge of and skills with VB.Net are enhanced
by knowing that so-and-so did a tour of various McDonalds outlets etc.

Having to wade through these types of posts to get at the 'nitty-gritty' is
getting beyond a joke.

I am sure that if one wants to carry on a social conversation then email or
some other medium is more suitable.

Love
Stephany
 
Hi Stephany,

Did you read all the chit-chat? Did you read the entire sequence of flame and flame-back? If so, why?

If you didn't, you put into practice the principle of detecting off-topic and avoiding it. That's good. Get better at it.

It's a shame that it bothers you that there is a strong sense of community here. It helps us while we are helping other people.
Does that bother you? Would you like us to sit here for hours, answering people's queries for free, making sure that we stick to the
point and don't make a joke or "chat" to a colleague? Do you want us to be sober and proper so that while we spend our precious time
on other people, we don't waste <your> precious time?

Please make a note of the names of those who offend you and avoid reading their posts. This will save you having to do any
"wading".

If that's not good enough becaiuse you don't want to miss out on any juicy solutions, I suggest that you read the first reply of
any "offender" that follows a response post from the question setter. The threads don't tend to get chatty until the issue is dealt
with. If you see a sub-thread that dives off to the right you can be sure that it is community not question.

Stephany. You posted the following:
|| And this has relevance to a 'Tough SQl Query'?

You posted this after 6 levels of indentation. 6 levels after the question was clearly answered. 6 levels of obvious off-topic
posts. What are you doing reading so far in, if you don't want to be reading so far in!!??

Please be responsible for your browsing. Stick to the left hand side.

Please do not intrude into our community posts. These are over towards the right hand side.

Please do not waste my time.

Love
Fergus.
 
Stephany,

This post, is in your opinion "of topic" it has nothing to do with the
VB.net language.

So I disagree you post, if this kind of questions you are doing now, are out
of topic lets close the newsgroup.

When Herfried who contributes the most to this newsgroup is one day less
active than normal, he may describe that in his own words in this newsgroup.
And a post, who start with a special name, is not need to be read by others
(although allowed with the conventions we have in this newsgroup and you may
answered them.)

Fergus (he watches incoming questions in the night and did you know he lives
in London?), did made a long post already and he describes the motivation,
why this is done.

If he never had written to us in a chit chat that he lives in London, we
never had understood, that he was answering you at 7 GMT after a night
helping people and maybe a little bit tired.

I hope you understand it now and maybe you become a member of our community.

Cor
 
Hi,
I think this is the first chit chat that starts in the mainthread.
That means I think that we keep us good to our conventions.
Lets keep it that way and not make a chat room from this newsgroup and let
this be the last one again for a while.
Cor
 
Hello,

Stephany Young said:
Am I the only one who finds the amount of general chit-chat
and flames that seems to have crept into this group recently rather
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intrusive.

No, you are not the only one. Some days ago I tols some of the other people
here that there are too many OT postings (including some written by me).
When thanking someone for their contribution, surely a
simple 'Thank you' would suffice rather than starting an
in-group 'hero worship' club.
LOL.

Likewise, I am sure that my knowledge of and skills with
VB.Net are enhanced by knowing that so-and-so did a tour
of various McDonalds outlets etc.
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*g*. I have posted to this ng every day since February of this year, there
were ony 3 days without any contribution of me.
Having to wade through these types of posts to get at the 'nitty-gritty' is
getting beyond a joke.
ACK.

I am sure that if one wants to carry on a social conversation then email or
some other medium is more suitable.
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I don't want OT postings at all, so I started to mark them as "OT:", but
others didn't do that.

;-)
 
Herfried,
I disagree with you.
See my post.
That doesn't mean that too in my opinion there maybe somethimes to much OT
post.
That cannot mean that OT post does not have a function.
It is not too others to mention post as OT and it has to be everyones own
dicipline.

This is an international newsgroup, and as far as I know with international
standards.
In some countries people is ruled by policeman. In my country (Europe) that
is not.

Cor
 
Herfried,
This is the result of a thread in this newsgroup.
There was maybe a lot of chat in it, but it had a good result,
Anyways... thanks again for your replies.
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Ok... Names Bruce
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Regards
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Let's not kill this.
Cor

ps do you know in what "General demeanour et al" is?
Je sais ce n'est pas une groupe "microsoft.public.en.dotnet.languages.vb"
mais c' est la habitude ici ecrire l'Anglais.
 
Hello,

Cor said:
ps do you know in what "General demeanour et al" is?
Je sais ce n'est pas une groupe "microsoft.public.en.dotnet.languages.vb"
mais c' est la habitude ici ecrire l'Anglais.
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I do not understand anything.
 
I do not understand anything.
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I tried to write.
I know this is not a newsgroup "microsoft.public.en.dotnet.language.vb" but
it is used to write here in English
:-)
Cor
 
Sorry, Herfreid and ( More specifically Stephany, )

I completely agree with Cor and Fergus. There is nothing wrong with a little
light entertainment whilsty going about your daily work ( in this case
giving your free time or simply your time and expertise. ) in order to help
others. Otherwise its all sober drudgery.

At least in most cases Fergus , Nak, Myself, cor , Jay and Herfried, we do
actually try and help folk rather than telling them to go help themselves !

Regards
 
Hello,

Cor said:
I do'nt reffer to your OT's. Don't make a policeman from yourself.
But when you want to place an OT it's of course your decission.
ACK.

I don't see you as the policeman in this newsgroup, so don't
try to become one.
;-)

And please no appologises for the group, you are not
respondable for what Fergus, Nick, Armin or I write.
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I do not apologize for the behavior of the others, but sometimes some of the
others (including myself) need to be remembered what the topic of this ng
is.
And when you go into that, we love it to get you over that
border. :-)
And a LOL (think twice by this) is a good thing to keep up
the high standards this newsgroup has reached.
And if a OT, ACK, a LOL or whatever it is sometimes on the
wrong place, so what Fergus did explain that good.
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:-)
 
Hello,

One Handed Man said:
I completely agree with Cor and Fergus. There is nothing
wrong with a little light entertainment whilsty going about your
daily work ( in this case giving your free time or simply your
time and expertise. ) in order to help others. Otherwise its
all sober drudgery.
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There is nothing wrong with that for us (and me), but as Stephany's posting
showed, there are some people who do not like that many off-topic postings.
I do not have anything against OT postings and discussions, but I must
always remember that there are folks who do not like it.
 
Ok everyone, I do agree with Stephany, sort of, and all of you -- I love
walking the fence.

_Sometimes_ the OT posts get a little out of hand, but it _is_ nice to see
some casual messages go on, I think that it makes asking the questions a
little bit easier to get a feeling of the people here. Otherwise, it is
very steril and I might as well call Microsoft and talking to one of their
operator/gatekeepers who wants a credit card before you can actually talk to
a person.

With that said, this _mere_ message thread itself is OT for the newsgroup,
but I think that it needed to be brought up, just to tell people 'Hey,
someone noticed. Maybe we are getting a little silly.' So, good point
Stephany.

Regarding reading all these OT posts, yeah, once they are getting out there,
I just ignore the thread. (Citing example of conversation with the topic
'Serious discussion about removing dynamically controls'. I think that
particular thread would sum up what Stephany is saying. The problem is, if
you ignore a thread, and then someone _does_ post something important, you
end up missing it.

Just my humble thoughts and opinion. Now, Stop it or No Soup for You! ;-)
 
Hello, Stephany:

I agree with the rest of the posts to this thread that OTs are good for the feeling of being part of a community. I also agree that too much OT is not pleasant and even counteractive if you feel that a thread is a private conversation between two or three of the members of the newsgroup... but it isn't private: I'm sure that I can participate in any conversation and my opinion will be respected.
Anyway this newsgroup is a relax after reading the microsoft.public.es.windowsxp group, in wich the personal confrontations with lots of insults are frecuent :-(

Regards.


"Stephany Young" <[email protected]> escribió en el mensaje | Am I the only one who finds the amount of general chit-chat and flames that
| seems to have crept into this group recently rather intrusive.
|
| When thanking someone for their contribution, surely a simple 'Thank you'
| would suffice rather than starting an in-group 'hero worship' club.
|
| Likewise, I am sure that my knowledge of and skills with VB.Net are enhanced
| by knowing that so-and-so did a tour of various McDonalds outlets etc.
|
| Having to wade through these types of posts to get at the 'nitty-gritty' is
| getting beyond a joke.
|
| I am sure that if one wants to carry on a social conversation then email or
| some other medium is more suitable.
|
| Love
| Stephany
|
|
|
 
Dont much care for soup anyway

;-D


Richard Brown said:
Ok everyone, I do agree with Stephany, sort of, and all of you -- I love
walking the fence.

_Sometimes_ the OT posts get a little out of hand, but it _is_ nice to see
some casual messages go on, I think that it makes asking the questions a
little bit easier to get a feeling of the people here. Otherwise, it is
very steril and I might as well call Microsoft and talking to one of their
operator/gatekeepers who wants a credit card before you can actually talk to
a person.

With that said, this _mere_ message thread itself is OT for the newsgroup,
but I think that it needed to be brought up, just to tell people 'Hey,
someone noticed. Maybe we are getting a little silly.' So, good point
Stephany.

Regarding reading all these OT posts, yeah, once they are getting out there,
I just ignore the thread. (Citing example of conversation with the topic
'Serious discussion about removing dynamically controls'. I think that
particular thread would sum up what Stephany is saying. The problem is, if
you ignore a thread, and then someone _does_ post something important, you
end up missing it.

Just my humble thoughts and opinion. Now, Stop it or No Soup for You! ;-)
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