Well the 8500 is comparable to a GeF3 in terms of performance - to beat a
Ti4xxx you need a 9500Pro and above (except in a DX9 game maybe when I
guess a standard 9500 would beat the Ti4xxx?)
Depends on what GF3 you're talking about. I had a TI200 and my sons Radeon
9000 128meg card smoked my TI200 by almost 30%. Both are on 2500XP barons
with a Gig of ram and I am running dual channel and he is not. I have a
9700 pro now