Geforce 4 440 Go Inspiron 8200

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I loaded Vista Home Premium on my laptop, a 5 year old Dell Inspiron 8200
w/1Gig of ram, 2.2G P4M processor. It runs well enough except for one
thing. When I play DVD's it is horribly jerky. I never had this issue with
XP Pro/WinDVD on the machine. I suspect that the generic VGA drivers are to
blame. While they support the Geforce 4 440 Go card fairly well (full
resolution on the display, albeit not with full color depth - I don't think
they support the overlay capability of the video card. I think this is why
the video is choppy.

Is there any way to use XP video drivers for the card? Under XP, I was
using the drivers from Microsoft, but I can still get the original Dell
drivers if needed.
 
I have the same Dell Laptop. It is not powerful enough
to run Windows Vista. I urge you to return to
Windows XP. Windows XP video adapter drivers
are not compatible with Windows Vista.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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in message I loaded Vista Home Premium on my laptop, a 5 year old Dell Inspiron 8200
w/1Gig of ram, 2.2G P4M processor. It runs well enough except for one
thing. When I play DVD's it is horribly jerky. I never had this issue with
XP Pro/WinDVD on the machine. I suspect that the generic VGA drivers are to
blame. While they support the Geforce 4 440 Go card fairly well (full
resolution on the display, albeit not with full color depth - I don't think
they support the overlay capability of the video card. I think this is why
the video is choppy.

Is there any way to use XP video drivers for the card? Under XP, I was
using the drivers from Microsoft, but I can still get the original Dell
drivers if needed.
 
To add to Cary's otherwise excellent advice ... it is unwise to try to force
XP drivers to work in Vista, especially in the area of video display.
Remember that Vista's display engine has been totally re-written and XP
drivers aren't going to provide the proper support for the new display
engine. So even if you could make them work - you'd still have a display
that doesn't support Vista's video display system.

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Ray,
Overlays are not supported in Vista if you have Aero Gloss turned on. Also
you need a card with onboard DX9 support to properly support Vista display
drivers that is the primary reason that Nvidia does not support any cards
without 5xxx or higher graphic chips.

in message
To add to Cary's otherwise excellent advice ... it is unwise to try to
force XP drivers to work in Vista, especially in the area of video
display. Remember that Vista's display engine has been totally re-written
and XP drivers aren't going to provide the proper support for the new
display engine. So even if you could make them work - you'd still have a
display that doesn't support Vista's video display system.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
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I loaded Vista Home Premium on my laptop, a 5 year old Dell Inspiron 8200
w/1Gig of ram, 2.2G P4M processor. It runs well enough except for one
thing. When I play DVD's it is horribly jerky. I never had this issue
with XP Pro/WinDVD on the machine. I suspect that the generic VGA drivers
are to blame. While they support the Geforce 4 440 Go card fairly well
(full resolution on the display, albeit not with full color depth - I
don't think they support the overlay capability of the video card. I
think this is why the video is choppy.

Is there any way to use XP video drivers for the card? Under XP, I was
using the drivers from Microsoft, but I can still get the original Dell
drivers if needed.
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I'd be willing to give it a try if I could get a driver that allowed DVD's
to play. I even tried one of the mod'd drivers from laptopvideo2go. It
didn't seem to make any difference.


in message
To add to Cary's otherwise excellent advice ... it is unwise to try to
force XP drivers to work in Vista, especially in the area of video
display. Remember that Vista's display engine has been totally re-written
and XP drivers aren't going to provide the proper support for the new
display engine. So even if you could make them work - you'd still have a
display that doesn't support Vista's video display system.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


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I loaded Vista Home Premium on my laptop, a 5 year old Dell Inspiron 8200
w/1Gig of ram, 2.2G P4M processor. It runs well enough except for one
thing. When I play DVD's it is horribly jerky. I never had this issue
with XP Pro/WinDVD on the machine. I suspect that the generic VGA drivers
are to blame. While they support the Geforce 4 440 Go card fairly well
(full resolution on the display, albeit not with full color depth - I
don't think they support the overlay capability of the video card. I
think this is why the video is choppy.

Is there any way to use XP video drivers for the card? Under XP, I was
using the drivers from Microsoft, but I can still get the original Dell
drivers if needed.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
The Go drivers are modified versions of the standard drivers received from
Nvidia so it Nvidia does not supply Vista drivers for Graphics Chip your
system manufacturer can not either.

in message
I'd be willing to give it a try if I could get a driver that allowed DVD's
to play. I even tried one of the mod'd drivers from laptopvideo2go. It
didn't seem to make any difference.


in message
To add to Cary's otherwise excellent advice ... it is unwise to try to
force XP drivers to work in Vista, especially in the area of video
display. Remember that Vista's display engine has been totally re-written
and XP drivers aren't going to provide the proper support for the new
display engine. So even if you could make them work - you'd still have a
display that doesn't support Vista's video display system.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


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I loaded Vista Home Premium on my laptop, a 5 year old Dell Inspiron 8200
w/1Gig of ram, 2.2G P4M processor. It runs well enough except for one
thing. When I play DVD's it is horribly jerky. I never had this issue
with XP Pro/WinDVD on the machine. I suspect that the generic VGA
drivers are to blame. While they support the Geforce 4 440 Go card
fairly well (full resolution on the display, albeit not with full color
depth - I don't think they support the overlay capability of the video
card. I think this is why the video is choppy.

Is there any way to use XP video drivers for the card? Under XP, I was
using the drivers from Microsoft, but I can still get the original Dell
drivers if needed.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
I think the laptopvideo2go site modifies the .INF file of later drivers using
the info from manufacture's .INF files.

I did some reading about Vista on wikipedia, and found that Vista doesn't
use hardware overlay support at all. It uses something called "compositing
desktop/FBOs" that gives equivalent functionality. I.e. allowing an app fast
updating of a window.

Since my card doesn't support this new mechanism, that explains why the DVD
playback is so bad. I just wish Microsoft had allowed legacy hardware
overlay support for people that are upgrading to Vista on their existing
hardware!

Ray


JW said:
The Go drivers are modified versions of the standard drivers received from
Nvidia so it Nvidia does not supply Vista drivers for Graphics Chip your
system manufacturer can not either.

in message
I'd be willing to give it a try if I could get a driver that allowed DVD's
to play. I even tried one of the mod'd drivers from laptopvideo2go. It
didn't seem to make any difference.


in message
To add to Cary's otherwise excellent advice ... it is unwise to try to
force XP drivers to work in Vista, especially in the area of video
display. Remember that Vista's display engine has been totally re-written
and XP drivers aren't going to provide the proper support for the new
display engine. So even if you could make them work - you'd still have a
display that doesn't support Vista's video display system.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


in message
I loaded Vista Home Premium on my laptop, a 5 year old Dell Inspiron 8200
w/1Gig of ram, 2.2G P4M processor. It runs well enough except for one
thing. When I play DVD's it is horribly jerky. I never had this issue
with XP Pro/WinDVD on the machine. I suspect that the generic VGA
drivers are to blame. While they support the Geforce 4 440 Go card
fairly well (full resolution on the display, albeit not with full color
depth - I don't think they support the overlay capability of the video
card. I think this is why the video is choppy.

Is there any way to use XP video drivers for the card? Under XP, I was
using the drivers from Microsoft, but I can still get the original Dell
drivers if needed.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Your card is simply too old to support Vista. Sorry.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
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in message
I'd be willing to give it a try if I could get a driver that allowed DVD's
to play. I even tried one of the mod'd drivers from laptopvideo2go. It
didn't seem to make any difference.


in message
To add to Cary's otherwise excellent advice ... it is unwise to try to
force XP drivers to work in Vista, especially in the area of video
display. Remember that Vista's display engine has been totally re-written
and XP drivers aren't going to provide the proper support for the new
display engine. So even if you could make them work - you'd still have a
display that doesn't support Vista's video display system.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


in message
I loaded Vista Home Premium on my laptop, a 5 year old Dell Inspiron 8200
w/1Gig of ram, 2.2G P4M processor. It runs well enough except for one
thing. When I play DVD's it is horribly jerky. I never had this issue
with XP Pro/WinDVD on the machine. I suspect that the generic VGA
drivers are to blame. While they support the Geforce 4 440 Go card
fairly well (full resolution on the display, albeit not with full color
depth - I don't think they support the overlay capability of the video
card. I think this is why the video is choppy.

Is there any way to use XP video drivers for the card? Under XP, I was
using the drivers from Microsoft, but I can still get the original Dell
drivers if needed.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
So I now realize. Microsoft's Vista Upgrade Advisor had only said I
wouldn't be able to run Aero. Apparently it didn't take into account that
DVD performance would be unacceptable because Vista doesn't make use of the
hardware overlay feature.

I have another old computer that I upgraded, similar vintage but a desktop.
That one I could and did upgrade the video card to get Aero, and it has no
trouble playing DVD's. So I think it's back to XP for the laptop.

Ray

in message
Your card is simply too old to support Vista. Sorry.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
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in message
I'd be willing to give it a try if I could get a driver that allowed
DVD's to play. I even tried one of the mod'd drivers from
laptopvideo2go. It didn't seem to make any difference.


in message
To add to Cary's otherwise excellent advice ... it is unwise to try to
force XP drivers to work in Vista, especially in the area of video
display. Remember that Vista's display engine has been totally
re-written and XP drivers aren't going to provide the proper support for
the new display engine. So even if you could make them work - you'd
still have a display that doesn't support Vista's video display system.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


in message
I loaded Vista Home Premium on my laptop, a 5 year old Dell Inspiron
8200 w/1Gig of ram, 2.2G P4M processor. It runs well enough except for
one thing. When I play DVD's it is horribly jerky. I never had this
issue with XP Pro/WinDVD on the machine. I suspect that the generic VGA
drivers are to blame. While they support the Geforce 4 440 Go card
fairly well (full resolution on the display, albeit not with full color
depth - I don't think they support the overlay capability of the video
card. I think this is why the video is choppy.

Is there any way to use XP video drivers for the card? Under XP, I was
using the drivers from Microsoft, but I can still get the original Dell
drivers if needed.
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