PS
If using the workarounds:
Be aware that renaming the DWT editable regions outside of the DWT template tags is not supported
And the starting editable region tag in the templated page (<!-- #BeginEditable "xxx" -->) is editable
(but should not be)
--
| Michael
| Nice Workaround for Creating NEW PAGES only!
| - thanks for posting back w/ the discovery (-:
|
| The method only works for NEW pages that don't have ANY code in the page before a DWT is applied
| - if there is already code in the page do not apply a DWT (see below)
|
| Recap:
| Adding an editable region (for code before or SSI) in Code view to the top of the page (before any DocType or html tags) is
| preserved by the DWT when applied - but any existing code is destroyed
| (it even supports <% @LANGUAGE="VBSCRIPT" %> for ASP which, when used, must be the first tag in a page)
| - even though it is "outside" of the starting DWT template tag (added after the opening html tag)
| Similarly adding code after (as an editable region after the </html> tag) Is also Preserved - but any existing code is destroyed
| - even though it is "outside" of the ending DWT template tag (added before the closing html tag)
|
| Existing pages:
| As a workaround for Existing pages w/ unique code before/after in the pages:
| BEFORE you apply a DWT the first time:
| Make sure all your coded pages are closed before any initial edits to the DWT to add the new code regions
| Open your existing page and Copy all your code before (and code after if needed) to clipboard or notepad Before applying the DWT
w/
| the page & allowing it to create the new regions,
| Then paste you code back into the newly created editable regions of the templated page!
| - Further DWT updates to the templated pages will leave the page unique code before/after alone
|
| Agree it would be nice to NOT have to use the workarounds for existing pages
| - as for new pages, it is no different than hand coding regions in the Head section for page title, keywords, description, styles,
| etc.
|
| Now if we can eventually get the FP 2002 SE in (non WSS) server based Webs to recognize DWTs for automatic updates (w/o opening
all
| attached pages to update DWT changes) And while Preserving existing Code Before/After), we may have some real use for DWTs in a
| professional web dev environment!
|
| _____________________________________________
| SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
|
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| _____________________________________________
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|
| ||I just fiqured out how to include template support. While not eloquent, it
|| works. If i manually type in a begin and end instance of an editable region
|| previous to the html block (which is technically outside of the template
|| begin region): it still works, and is not overwritten when applying a
|| template update.
||
|| Also Visual Studio does not change the template tags (which is great
|| because visual studio does change the placement of dreamweaver template tags
|| when placed outside of the html block -even when told not to - another
|| problem area, especially after correcting it 20 times in a day).
||
|| So for me, this has really opened up front page as a usuable tool!
||
|| If someone from microsoft reads this - please add this support in an
|| eloquent form - it is not that hard to do, and this is a huge huge plus. It
|| could even be an extension to the exstsing tags, thus backwards compatible,
|| and perhaps as simple as a plugin or updated feature to existing frontpage
|| 2003. (while you are at it, why not add optional updatable regions as well).
||
|| This is not just a convience. In the 'real' world of small to moderate sites
|| (i.e., 20 to a 200 pages), when a set of pages are created, they are almost
|| always template based. This means if a client or another party involved with
|| the site, wants to change a templated area - they have to use the same
|| software. Many clients feel more comforatable using a front-page package than
|| learning dreamweaver, and the cost is more reasonable.
|| Yet without this template support on aspx pages, it is an impossibily for
|| .net sites.
|| THIS WILL OPEN UP NEW MARKETS FOR FRONTPAGE AND MAKE LIFE EASIER FOR US.
|| Also frontpage is so much more stable and quicker, makes for a better client
|| relationship.
||
||
||
|| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
||
|| > Unfortunately the FP 2003 DWT currently does not support it
|| > - hopefully lots of peope will also vote to Agree w/ your post and MS will
|| > get the message that many of us MVPs also have been pressing for (to correct
|| > this shortcoming)
|| > --
|| > _________________________________________
|| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
|| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
|| > ________________________________________________
|| >
|| >
|| >
|| > "Michael V. Khalsa" wrote:
|| >
|| > > Front page templates need to support editable content prior to the opening
|| > > html tag (such as exists in dreamweaver), otherwise the templates are useless
|| > > for aspx page, because when the template is re-applied, it overwrites the
|| > > aspx page declaration and any user control reference tags.
|| > > If this support is present, could any one let me know. It is supprising that
|| > > microsoft does not support its own technology. For me this is the #1 feature
|| > > of dreamweaver, and i would swith to frontpage in a heartbeat for its
|| > > supperior stability, if only templates could support this.
|| > >
|| > > ----------------
|| > > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
|| > > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
|| > > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
|| > > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
|| > > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
|| > >
|| > >
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http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...96ff7cbf&dg=microsoft.public.frontpage.client
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