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I am still using IE 6 on one computer running W2K and IE7 on a computer
running XP Home. I publish several web sites and have used "Hover Buttons"
for linking locally in the site. Neither IE 6 or IE 7 will actually go to
the link. When I visit the same site with FireFox there is no problem and
the link immediately is established with the hyperlink associated with the
Hover Button. When I use either IE browser and hover over the Hover Button
the selected highlight color is shown glowing as it is supposed to.

This feature used to work a while back. I do not remember how long ago it
did work but it has been numerous 'upgrades' and 'security fixes' to IE in
either flavor.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Ken
 
Hi Kenneth,

A link to one of your websites where this happens would be helpful.

There have been numerous changes to IE since FP2002 was released that have
been aimed at making IE more standards compliant. These could have broken FP
code.

A link is what we need to examine your code.

Regards.
 
Hi Kenneth,

The Hover buttons are implemented as java applets.

When I load the sample pages I am prompted to install the Java virtual
machine run time.

Here is the MS link about Java run time installation

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/59c3a93d-1342-43a6-a01a-f720c7a17ffc1033.mspx

IE will impose the highest security restrictions when Java VM is used on web
sites (in above reference). So I am reluctant to proceed with the
installation on my machine.

I would suggest that you simplify your page and replace your Hover buttons
with just normal buttons or hyperlinks. Maybe not as 'fancy' as hover
buttons, but more practical, as all browsers and platforms will be able to
load the page without requiring additional addons.

I would imagine that the purpose of your web site is to inform, rather than
enthrall your visitors with fancy graphic effects (as a commercial site that
was aimed at selling products would). If this is the case you may like to
consider other aspects of your sites design such as font families and
colors. Users can change their browser settings to see different fonts and
colors.

The tip in designing practical web sites is the KISS principle.

Regards.
 
Thanks Rob,

I do have Java virtual machine installed. I use it for other sites and other
features. The culprit must be in IE itself. I have changed all my other
client sites to use other than Hover buttons. I'll probably change this one
as well.

Ken
 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922480
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
: Hi David,
:
: No, the source is not the issue I'm afraid. Thanks anyway.
:
:
: : >
: > : >> Would you please explain your response.
: >
: > Umm.... I thought you needed to see some source code.
: >
: >
: >> : >> >
: >> > : >> >
: >> >> Hi Rob:
: >> >> The site that still uses the Hover Buttons is
: >> >> www.holisticcarehawaii.com.
: >> >
: >> > I use hover buttons created in FP...
: >> >
: >> > http://www.COLight.org
: >> >
: >> >
: >> >
: >> >
: >>
: >>
: >
: >
:
:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EOLAS

: Thanks Rob,
:
: I do have Java virtual machine installed. I use it for other sites and
other
: features. The culprit must be in IE itself. I have changed all my other
: client sites to use other than Hover buttons. I'll probably change this
one
: as well.
:
: Ken
:
: : > Hi Kenneth,
: >
: > The Hover buttons are implemented as java applets.
: >
: > When I load the sample pages I am prompted to install the Java virtual
: > machine run time.
: >
: > Here is the MS link about Java run time installation
: >
: >
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/59c3a93d-1342-43a6-a01a-f720c7a17ffc1033.mspx
: >
: > IE will impose the highest security restrictions when Java VM is used on
: > web sites (in above reference). So I am reluctant to proceed with the
: > installation on my machine.
: >
: > I would suggest that you simplify your page and replace your Hover
buttons
: > with just normal buttons or hyperlinks. Maybe not as 'fancy' as hover
: > buttons, but more practical, as all browsers and platforms will be able
to
: > load the page without requiring additional addons.
: >
: > I would imagine that the purpose of your web site is to inform, rather
: > than enthrall your visitors with fancy graphic effects (as a commercial
: > site that was aimed at selling products would). If this is the case you
: > may like to consider other aspects of your sites design such as font
: > families and colors. Users can change their browser settings to see
: > different fonts and colors.
: >
: > The tip in designing practical web sites is the KISS principle.
: >
: > Regards.
: >
: > : >> Hi Rob:
: >> The site that still uses the Hover Buttons is
www.holisticcarehawaii.com.
: >>
: >> One extra point of information is that I use FP2003 and that is up to
: >> date.
: >>
: >> Ken
: >>
: >> : >>> Hi Kenneth,
: >>>
: >>> A link to one of your websites where this happens would be helpful.
: >>>
: >>> There have been numerous changes to IE since FP2002 was released that
: >>> have been aimed at making IE more standards compliant. These could
have
: >>> broken FP code.
: >>>
: >>> A link is what we need to examine your code.
: >>>
: >>> Regards.
: >>>
: >>> : >>>> I am still using IE 6 on one computer running W2K and IE7 on a
computer
: >>>> running XP Home. I publish several web sites and have used "Hover
: >>>> Buttons" for linking locally in the site. Neither IE 6 or IE 7 will
: >>>> actually go to the link. When I visit the same site with FireFox
there
: >>>> is no problem and the link immediately is established with the
: >>>> hyperlink associated with the Hover Button. When I use either IE
: >>>> browser and hover over the Hover Button the selected highlight color
is
: >>>> shown glowing as it is supposed to.
: >>>>
: >>>> This feature used to work a while back. I do not remember how long
ago
: >>>> it did work but it has been numerous 'upgrades' and 'security fixes'
to
: >>>> IE in either flavor.
: >>>>
: >>>> Any help would be appreciated.
: >>>>
: >>>> Thanks in advance.
: >>>> Ken
: >>>>
: >>
: >>
:
:
 
Kenneth John Barclay said:
Thanks Rob,

I do have Java virtual machine installed. I use it for other sites and other
features. The culprit must be in IE itself. I have changed all my other
client sites to use other than Hover buttons. I'll probably change this one
as well.
Click to expand...

I'm building a page right now for a time-share lake house.... I was about
to put similar java mouse-over buttons on it.... please keep your results
posted if possible.

Curious...
 
Thanks again

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EOLAS

: Thanks Rob,
:
: I do have Java virtual machine installed. I use it for other sites and
other
: features. The culprit must be in IE itself. I have changed all my other
: client sites to use other than Hover buttons. I'll probably change this
one
: as well.
:
: Ken
:
: : > Hi Kenneth,
: >
: > The Hover buttons are implemented as java applets.
: >
: > When I load the sample pages I am prompted to install the Java virtual
: > machine run time.
: >
: > Here is the MS link about Java run time installation
: >
: >
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/59c3a93d-1342-43a6-a01a-f720c7a17ffc1033.mspx
: >
: > IE will impose the highest security restrictions when Java VM is used
on
: > web sites (in above reference). So I am reluctant to proceed with the
: > installation on my machine.
: >
: > I would suggest that you simplify your page and replace your Hover
buttons
: > with just normal buttons or hyperlinks. Maybe not as 'fancy' as hover
: > buttons, but more practical, as all browsers and platforms will be
able
to
: > load the page without requiring additional addons.
: >
: > I would imagine that the purpose of your web site is to inform, rather
: > than enthrall your visitors with fancy graphic effects (as a
commercial
: > site that was aimed at selling products would). If this is the case
you
: > may like to consider other aspects of your sites design such as font
: > families and colors. Users can change their browser settings to see
: > different fonts and colors.
: >
: > The tip in designing practical web sites is the KISS principle.
: >
: > Regards.
: >
: > : >> Hi Rob:
: >> The site that still uses the Hover Buttons is
www.holisticcarehawaii.com.
: >>
: >> One extra point of information is that I use FP2003 and that is up to
: >> date.
: >>
: >> Ken
: >>
: >> : >>> Hi Kenneth,
: >>>
: >>> A link to one of your websites where this happens would be helpful.
: >>>
: >>> There have been numerous changes to IE since FP2002 was released
that
: >>> have been aimed at making IE more standards compliant. These could
have
: >>> broken FP code.
: >>>
: >>> A link is what we need to examine your code.
: >>>
: >>> Regards.
: >>>
: >>> : >>>> I am still using IE 6 on one computer running W2K and IE7 on a
computer
: >>>> running XP Home. I publish several web sites and have used "Hover
: >>>> Buttons" for linking locally in the site. Neither IE 6 or IE 7 will
: >>>> actually go to the link. When I visit the same site with FireFox
there
: >>>> is no problem and the link immediately is established with the
: >>>> hyperlink associated with the Hover Button. When I use either IE
: >>>> browser and hover over the Hover Button the selected highlight
color
is
: >>>> shown glowing as it is supposed to.
: >>>>
: >>>> This feature used to work a while back. I do not remember how long
ago
: >>>> it did work but it has been numerous 'upgrades' and 'security
fixes'
to
: >>>> IE in either flavor.
: >>>>
: >>>> Any help would be appreciated.
: >>>>
: >>>> Thanks in advance.
: >>>> Ken
: >>>>
: >>
: >>
:
:
Click to expand...
 
You're welcome both times :-)

--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
: Thanks again
:
: : > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EOLAS
: >
: > : > : Thanks Rob,
: > :
: > : I do have Java virtual machine installed. I use it for other sites and
: > other
: > : features. The culprit must be in IE itself. I have changed all my
other
: > : client sites to use other than Hover buttons. I'll probably change
this
: > one
: > : as well.
: > :
: > : Ken
: > :
: > : : > : > Hi Kenneth,
: > : >
: > : > The Hover buttons are implemented as java applets.
: > : >
: > : > When I load the sample pages I am prompted to install the Java
virtual
: > : > machine run time.
: > : >
: > : > Here is the MS link about Java run time installation
: > : >
: > : >
: >
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/59c3a93d-1342-43a6-a01a-f720c7a17ffc1033.mspx
: > : >
: > : > IE will impose the highest security restrictions when Java VM is
used
: > on
: > : > web sites (in above reference). So I am reluctant to proceed with
the
: > : > installation on my machine.
: > : >
: > : > I would suggest that you simplify your page and replace your Hover
: > buttons
: > : > with just normal buttons or hyperlinks. Maybe not as 'fancy' as
hover
: > : > buttons, but more practical, as all browsers and platforms will be
: > able
: > to
: > : > load the page without requiring additional addons.
: > : >
: > : > I would imagine that the purpose of your web site is to inform,
rather
: > : > than enthrall your visitors with fancy graphic effects (as a
: > commercial
: > : > site that was aimed at selling products would). If this is the case
: > you
: > : > may like to consider other aspects of your sites design such as font
: > : > families and colors. Users can change their browser settings to see
: > : > different fonts and colors.
: > : >
: > : > The tip in designing practical web sites is the KISS principle.
: > : >
: > : > Regards.
: > : >
: > : > : > : >> Hi Rob:
: > : >> The site that still uses the Hover Buttons is
: > www.holisticcarehawaii.com.
: > : >>
: > : >> One extra point of information is that I use FP2003 and that is up
to
: > : >> date.
: > : >>
: > : >> Ken
: > : >>
: > : >> : > : >>> Hi Kenneth,
: > : >>>
: > : >>> A link to one of your websites where this happens would be
helpful.
: > : >>>
: > : >>> There have been numerous changes to IE since FP2002 was released
: > that
: > : >>> have been aimed at making IE more standards compliant. These could
: > have
: > : >>> broken FP code.
: > : >>>
: > : >>> A link is what we need to examine your code.
: > : >>>
: > : >>> Regards.
: > : >>>
: > : >>> : > : >>>> I am still using IE 6 on one computer running W2K and IE7 on a
: > computer
: > : >>>> running XP Home. I publish several web sites and have used "Hover
: > : >>>> Buttons" for linking locally in the site. Neither IE 6 or IE 7
will
: > : >>>> actually go to the link. When I visit the same site with FireFox
: > there
: > : >>>> is no problem and the link immediately is established with the
: > : >>>> hyperlink associated with the Hover Button. When I use either IE
: > : >>>> browser and hover over the Hover Button the selected highlight
: > color
: > is
: > : >>>> shown glowing as it is supposed to.
: > : >>>>
: > : >>>> This feature used to work a while back. I do not remember how
long
: > ago
: > : >>>> it did work but it has been numerous 'upgrades' and 'security
: > fixes'
: > to
: > : >>>> IE in either flavor.
: > : >>>>
: > : >>>> Any help would be appreciated.
: > : >>>>
: > : >>>> Thanks in advance.
: > : >>>> Ken
: > : >>>>
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
 
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