attilathehun1 said:
The tower is a Thermaltake VA8000B Series, part # VA8003 BWS, the mobo is a
GIGABYTE S-series Model # EP35C-DS3R, the E is dark green, the D is orange,
and the rest of the letters and numbers are light green. Is that precise
enough? LOL
-- Ok, I just read the rest of your reply and didn't jump the gun by sending
this reply and then another one.
Alright, so when it wouldn't fire up the first time and few times later,
it wasn't because I had the power switch backwards, your saying it doesn't
matter which way it is? The only reason I'm asking is because in the mobo
manual it stats the + and - on the pictured diagram of the front panel mobo
connectors. I usually stick them on where the outer prongs the face is
pointing outward, towards the end edge of the mobo. With respect to the inner
prongs, for example, where the power switch would go, I point the face inward
towards the middle or away from the edge. That's been a general rule I've
used on the dozen or so PCs I've built and fixed. I see though where or why
your saying about the general colors of the wires. Most are black and white
or white and another color.
The power switch polarity does not matter. Either way works. Just make sure
the cable goes on the right two pins. If the board doesn't start, chances are
you got the wrong two pins.
So, on the black and white, black is negative and
white is positive? Then on the rest that have white and other colors, the
white is negative and the other colors are positive? That seems outta whack.
Why shouldn't all the white be negative, since all have white in them, and
black and the other colors are positive? Wait a sec, let me check, it's dark
now, 10:30 pm, brb. Ok, they are all white with another color, except the
speaker, which is black and red.
I just looked at the front USB1 and USB2, and the prongs on the mobo have 2
rows of prongs, and the tower USB1 and USB2 connectors only have 1 row or
only can go on 1 row. Do you understand what I mean? They are too skiny or
not 8 holes, but only 4 holes. You see? Which prongs do I stick them on, the
one set that has the full set of prongs or the side that has one prong
missing? There are 2 rows of prongs with one side missing one prong or one
prong light. No, I just checked, there are 2 rows with 9 prongs, each. One
row has 5 prongs and 1 row only has 4 prongs. Which would you stick the
Thermaltake USB connector onto? When I tried to fire it up the first time, I
stuck them onto the 5 prong side, not the 4 prong side. It seems like it
would fit the ear mike would fit there. Oh, maybe that's why there is only
one connector for the ear mike. I should stick the ear mike on the those
connectors and the AZALIA and the AC'97 then would both have a place to go.
Also, both the USB1 and USB2 would fit on the connector I stuck the AZALIA
on. I just looked again and unhooked the AZALIA Thermaltake ear mike
connector and it's connected to the F-Audio, right next to the back panel
connectors where you would plug in the speakers. You know, you plug the
speakers into the green connector.
Ok, this is getting long winded and I don't want to confuse you. I'm
thinking that I probably have the ear mike plugs in the right spot. In fact
the USB1 and USB2 on the mobo should connect to the Thermaltake USB1 and USB2
plugs. Right? Oh no, forget all this last part about the AZALIA and AC'97
connectors. I see they can only go onto the F-Audio. I'm just wondering which
one, and someone told me in a reply some time ago, use the AZALIA instead of
the AC'97, if there is only one connector.
Ok, also I see on the USB1 and USB2, well on the USB2, I can't find the
USB1 right now in the tangle of wires at 10:55 pm with the ceiling light. I
see 5 connectors on the one row so I figure it must go onto the 5 prongs not
the 4 prongs of the 9 prong set connector.
I think this is getting to be unending. LOL
Any more help would be greatly appreciated.
attilathehun1
I found a manual here. At least parts of this will be similar to the manual
that came with your computer case.
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Uploa...645-4d98-8125-5c4a99f98b0b/VA8000_en_0426.zip
What I can see so far, is no consistent color scheme in the wiring. Now,
the fact that the manual uses B&W pictures doesn't bother me in the least
So I don't see them following any evident rules.
OK, the first thing I'm going to suggest, is "keep it simple". You're getting
carried away with the wiring job. Let me state this on a separate line
"There is very little that has to be wired up, to make your new motherboard work"
There, I said it.
The minimum to make that motherboard work, is the two wire power switch. You
don't need to hook up RESET. You don't need to hook up any LEDs. You don't
need USB or Firewire or audio. Just the power switch. The thing is, right now,
you need proof that pile of crap works. Imagine, if you spend the next two hours,
carefully wiring the USB and Firewire, you push the power button and nothing
happens. You'll be madder than hell.
So keep it simple, to get the project off on a good footing. Connect
1) Main 24 pin power connector.
2) The ATX12V 2x2 square power connector. That connector has two yellow wires
and two black wires. Color consistency on these is good in the industry.
If it doesn't have two yellow and two black, then tell me what color they
are.
3) Connect the PWR switch from the front panel to the F_PANEL header.
4) Since you need some feedback about how things are going, you can
also connect the SPKR wire pair to the F_PANEL header as well. If
there is more than one beep from the speaker, that is likely an error code.
OK, now you're ready to try it. You have your power supply, motherboard and
computer case, and minimal wiring. If you have the processor and heatsink/fan
as well, so much the better. (If you just want to test the power switch, the
processor and heatsink/fan don't have to be present.)
Set the rear switch ON. Push the power button. Now you should hear fans,
and fans means there is +12V present.
If you had no RAM or no video card, but the processor was present,
then you'll hear a repeating beep pattern on the system speaker.
Once the RAM and video are connected, keyboard and mouse connected, monitor
plugged into the video card, you should see the BIOS appear on the screen.
At the very least, you'd want to enter the BIOS to set the boot order,
based on whatever storage devices are connected. I would place the CD/DVD
drive before the hard drive, in the boot order, in preparation for Windows
installation.
Before adding or removing any hardware, don't forget to turn the power
supply off at the back of the computer. That is to remove +5VSB and
any derived voltages, such as 3VSB (that is regulated down from +5VSB).
Your RAM could be damaged, if it is inserted or removed while
+5VSB is still running.
I'm only including the following for later. For after you've tested that
it is worthwhile connecting the rest of the stuff. If you cannot
get the motherboard started, that other crap wiring will only get in
the way.
*******
A USB 2x5 is really two USB ports together. Five pins on each side
is a complete interface.
Power, D-, D+, GND is one complete USB interface.
If we lay two of them down, it looks like this. Some wiring jobs will
provide a 1x4 piece of plastic, going to a front panel USB connector.
Others might offer a full 2x5 thing to plug in. If for any reason the
USB ports don't work, then start investigating what is really connected
to the NC pin, as some systems actually have a signal called OC# wired
to that pin. IF OC# gets grounded, the computer will complain about
a non-existent USB overload.
GND, DX+, DX-, Power
X X X X <---- One USB port here
X X X X X <---- One USB port here
NC GND, DY+, DY-, Power
*******
I don't see a Firewire header on that motherboard, so the Firewire cable
will be left disconnected, and will not work.
*******
For audio, there are five wires that need to be connected. You do
not connect the Thermaltake Return_R and Return_L. They are not used
on an HDaudio capable motherboard. Also, heed the warning in the manual,
where it says to read "Configuring 2/4/5.1/7.1-Channel Audio", as
there is a tick box in the sound control panel that needs to be
set properly, so jack detection functions correctly. If you don't
follow the procedure, then when a plug is inserted, there will be
no response.
F_AUDIO
MIC_IN ---- MIC X X GND --- Ground
MIC_VCC --- MIC_POWER X X NC
EAR_R ----- Lineout_R X X NC
NC X
EAR_L ----- Lineout_L X X NC
HTH,
Paul
